Tony

khw wrote:
> Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
> results vs. performance
> every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
> ensure that
> every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
> reliability standards.
> reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
>
> performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
> and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
> can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
>
> i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
> tranmissions
> ....(;
>
Yeah, but imagine the fun he had doing that

Miguel De Anda

Steve Daniels wrote:

>
>
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?


I've got an APR on a 03' 225 TT. The gain isn't very noticeable to me. I
think its partially because its a quatro and I can't make the wheels
burnout from a rolling first gear... like on my '01 1.8T Jetta. I've also
added an APR intercooler and for a month had the 3" APR full exhaust, those
did add a lot more juice but the intercooler and exhaust are pretty pricey.

BTW, if anybody is interested, my exhaust is now for sale. I've got pictures
and info at http://linxp.homelinux.org/forsale/aprexhaust/

However, if you want a really fast car, I understand you won't be able to
get to far unless you use a 3" exhaust. I was hoping to get a larger turbo
but the larger exhaust was too much noise for me so I guess I'm kind of at
the limit of what I can do.

- Miguel

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Miguel De Anda

Steve Daniels wrote:

>
>
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?


I've got an APR on a 03' 225 TT. The gain isn't very noticeable to me. I
think its partially because its a quatro and I can't make the wheels
burnout from a rolling first gear... like on my '01 1.8T Jetta. I've also
added an APR intercooler and for a month had the 3" APR full exhaust, those
did add a lot more juice but the intercooler and exhaust are pretty pricey.

BTW, if anybody is interested, my exhaust is now for sale. I've got pictures
and info at http://linxp.homelinux.org/forsale/aprexhaust/

However, if you want a really fast car, I understand you won't be able to
get to far unless you use a 3" exhaust. I was hoping to get a larger turbo
but the larger exhaust was too much noise for me so I guess I'm kind of at
the limit of what I can do.

- Miguel

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Miguel De Anda

Steve Daniels wrote:

>
>
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?


I've got an APR on a 03' 225 TT. The gain isn't very noticeable to me. I
think its partially because its a quatro and I can't make the wheels
burnout from a rolling first gear... like on my '01 1.8T Jetta. I've also
added an APR intercooler and for a month had the 3" APR full exhaust, those
did add a lot more juice but the intercooler and exhaust are pretty pricey.

BTW, if anybody is interested, my exhaust is now for sale. I've got pictures
and info at http://linxp.homelinux.org/forsale/aprexhaust/

However, if you want a really fast car, I understand you won't be able to
get to far unless you use a 3" exhaust. I was hoping to get a larger turbo
but the larger exhaust was too much noise for me so I guess I'm kind of at
the limit of what I can do.

- Miguel

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Miguel De Anda

Steve Daniels wrote:

>
>
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?


I've got an APR on a 03' 225 TT. The gain isn't very noticeable to me. I
think its partially because its a quatro and I can't make the wheels
burnout from a rolling first gear... like on my '01 1.8T Jetta. I've also
added an APR intercooler and for a month had the 3" APR full exhaust, those
did add a lot more juice but the intercooler and exhaust are pretty pricey.

BTW, if anybody is interested, my exhaust is now for sale. I've got pictures
and info at http://linxp.homelinux.org/forsale/aprexhaust/

However, if you want a really fast car, I understand you won't be able to
get to far unless you use a 3" exhaust. I was hoping to get a larger turbo
but the larger exhaust was too much noise for me so I guess I'm kind of at
the limit of what I can do.

- Miguel

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Frank

daytripper knastet inn: :
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:27:37 -0700, Steve Daniels <sdaniels@gorge.net> wrote:
>> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
>> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
>> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
>> more attractive to women.
>>
>> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
>> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
>> the factory?
>
> Could be many reasons, but certainly causing a engine to put out significantly
> more power than as shipped by the manufacturer raises the possibility of some
> engine components failing earlier/more often than they would have.
>


Another reason; In Norway - a chipped engine from ex 150 to 200 hp,
would cost about 10.000$ ... extra tax.

With a speed limit of max 100km/t (62 mph), quite a few would prefer
the same car with less power ...

Frank

daytripper knastet inn: :
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:27:37 -0700, Steve Daniels <sdaniels@gorge.net> wrote:
>> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
>> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
>> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
>> more attractive to women.
>>
>> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
>> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
>> the factory?
>
> Could be many reasons, but certainly causing a engine to put out significantly
> more power than as shipped by the manufacturer raises the possibility of some
> engine components failing earlier/more often than they would have.
>


Another reason; In Norway - a chipped engine from ex 150 to 200 hp,
would cost about 10.000$ ... extra tax.

With a speed limit of max 100km/t (62 mph), quite a few would prefer
the same car with less power ...

Frank

daytripper knastet inn: :
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:27:37 -0700, Steve Daniels <sdaniels@gorge.net> wrote:
>> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
>> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
>> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
>> more attractive to women.
>>
>> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
>> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
>> the factory?
>
> Could be many reasons, but certainly causing a engine to put out significantly
> more power than as shipped by the manufacturer raises the possibility of some
> engine components failing earlier/more often than they would have.
>


Another reason; In Norway - a chipped engine from ex 150 to 200 hp,
would cost about 10.000$ ... extra tax.

With a speed limit of max 100km/t (62 mph), quite a few would prefer
the same car with less power ...

Frank

daytripper knastet inn: :
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:27:37 -0700, Steve Daniels <sdaniels@gorge.net> wrote:
>> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
>> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
>> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
>> more attractive to women.
>>
>> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
>> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
>> the factory?
>
> Could be many reasons, but certainly causing a engine to put out significantly
> more power than as shipped by the manufacturer raises the possibility of some
> engine components failing earlier/more often than they would have.
>


Another reason; In Norway - a chipped engine from ex 150 to 200 hp,
would cost about 10.000$ ... extra tax.

With a speed limit of max 100km/t (62 mph), quite a few would prefer
the same car with less power ...

Mike

On Aug 29, 10:27 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?
> --
>
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.

I have recently sold my re-mapped Fiat Stilo deisel and bought and
Audi A4 deisel which I am intending to get re-mapped.

The effect on the re-map was quite noticable and for £250 was well
worth it. The map was to inc the power from 115 to 155 bhp and a
similar increase in torque. 0-60 time was cut, I never tested it
properly but I would estimate it dropped from 10.6 (manufacturers
figs) to around 9 secs. Other owners who tested similar cars got
8.5-9secs. The extra torque made a lot of difference in gear
improving pickup between the gears noticably. Driving around a tight
bend on a steep dry road in yourshire, I booted it and the extra
torque caused the traction control to kick in, something that never
happened before.

There was also a noticable increase in economy, possible as high as 5%
most notciable on long motorway cruises fully loaded (i.e I wasn't
booting the car). The only downside was a noticable increase in smoke
under heavy acceleration. That said it passed the stringent annual
MOT emmissions test every year.

I ran the car for 40k miles after the re-map with no problems at all
though I never really took the car to it's limits.

I've never heard anyone regret having a professional re-map, you do
have to expect extra wear and tear on clutch and tyres though.

Mike