Re: blasphemy
 

CR Krieger writes:

>You need to rejoin. Satch is the *Editor*! No kidding!

Now *I'm* aghast! d;o)

I met Satch at a SCCA Rally in NH a number of years ago. I brought along my
copy of "Running on Empty" and he signed it. Funny guy - he can spin a yarn.
I enjoyed his columns in AutoWeek until he..... well, you know. He told this
one: He was trying to impress his date with a "bootleg turn", i.e. put in a
tiny bit of turn to the left and pull the parking brake. Rear wheels lock up
and around you go until you are in the next lane heading in the other
direction. One problem, however. Big problem too. He was driving a Saab (his
favorite marque) and that particular model had the parking brake on the drive
wheels. When he pulled it, the car skidded to a straight stop on the snow
covered highway. Saab was fwd. I don't think his date was impressed.

As I type, I'm sitting here wearing the Yokohama (tires) long sleeve t-shirt
that they gave away at the Boston convention a few years back. "Get seriously
tired" with a 5 Series and a Yoky tire on the back.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

Re: blasphemy
 

In article <a8a578a8.0310300757.72fccbd6@posting.google.com >,
warp2_shadow@yahoo.com (C.R. Krieger) wrote:

> avantium@munich.com (Avantium) wrote in message
news:<ad68da8c.0310291908.9a42a47@posting.google.c om>...
> > BMWs on karquattro....
>
> As a longtime BMW *and* Audi Quattro owner, driver, and fairly active
> club member, I've been struck by the inordinate level of 'marque
> worship' I see in Audi fans.

I think this is because the underdog always has to
make more of himself than the overdog. The overdog
can afford to be critical, the underdog cannot.

Audi people are like Mac people, and I count myself
a member of both groups.

Re: blasphemy
 

See below.

DAS
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"C.R. Krieger" <warp2_shadow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> avantium@munich.com (Avantium) wrote in message
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> Don't try telling me that Audis are that much better or that much
> different. In terms of quality and design, they are equals. In terms
> of character, Audis and BMWs are both essentially Bavarian.

FROM DAS: What is that, exactly? Do they run on Weisswurst and beer instead
of petrol?


It is
> this 'character' of the cars, compared to Stuttgart's overengineered
> and overinsulated 'Schweinen' (my own term), that draws me to them.

FROM DAS: I wish! (that they were still over-engineered).


[.............]
> While the Benz cars are close to my preference, the Benz club folks
> would generally rather clean and show their cars instead of *playing*
> with them, as both BMW and Audi clubs do. Both PCA and Benz owners
> tend to *have* work performed on their cars instead of rolling up
> their sleeves, digging out the tools,

FROM DAS: Absolutely right! Also probably more automatic Mercs supplied
that BMWs, at least in certain territories. We have better things to do
than fiddle about in the engine compartment.

Actually, I once read that if Merc engineers would habe their way the cars
would only come with a speedometer and fuel cap, as everything else is
unnecessary...


and just doing it, as so many
> Audi and BMW owners will. Our club shirts are *black* - it doesn't
> show grease, oil, and brake dust! ;^D
>
...............................> ...
> --
> C.R. Krieger
> Automotive Iconoclast

Re: blasphemy
 

In article <chiefhiawatha-0111032058140001@10.0.1.2>,
chiefhiawatha <chiefhiawatha@yahoo.comREMOVE> wrote:
> I think this is because the underdog always has to
> make more of himself than the overdog. The overdog
> can afford to be critical, the underdog cannot.

> Audi people are like Mac people, and I count myself
> a member of both groups.

When it comes to pecking order, there are always more sheep than
sheepdogs. Just to mix up as many animal analogies as possible.

--
*You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me *

Dave Plowman dave.sound@argonet.co.uk London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Re: blasphemy
 

"Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message news:<3fa789a8$0$9468$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com >...
> "C.R. Krieger" <warp2_shadow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a8a578a8.0310300757.72fccbd6@posting.google.c om...

> > Don't try telling me that Audis are that much better or that much
> > different. In terms of quality and design, they are equals. In terms
> > of character, Audis and BMWs are both essentially Bavarian.
>
> FROM DAS: What is that, exactly? Do they run on Weisswurst and beer instead
> of petrol?

'Character' *is* difficult to define. Think of it in terms of
American cars vs. Asian cars vs. European cars. Each has a distinct
but hard-to-define feel about it. An automotive enthusiast will
almost immediately recognize them. A little more refined 'automotive
palate' will be able to tell the difference between Scandinavian (odd
yet appealing ergonomics and relentlessly effective in snow for no
apparent reason), French (too-soft seats; far more body roll than
anyone can believe), and English (Connolly hides surrounded by too
many quirks to enumerate, but start with electrical problems) cars.
Maybe I'm nuts, but I find Audis and BMWs to have a certain difference
about them.

> It is
> > this 'character' of the cars, compared to Stuttgart's overengineered
> > and overinsulated 'Schweinen' (my own term), that draws me to them.
>
> FROM DAS: I wish! (that they were still over-engineered).

They still are. That's not necessarily a *good* thing, IMO. For
instance, what's the point of developing a proprietary *radio antenna
connector*?
--
C.R. Krieger
(Still the BMW Guy)

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davplac@aol.comPirate (Dave LaCourse) wrote in message news:<20031101184324.14963.00000132@mb-m14.aol.com>...
> CR Krieger writes:
>
> >You need to rejoin. Satch is the *Editor*! No kidding!
>
> Now *I'm* aghast! d;o)
>
> I met Satch at a SCCA Rally in NH a number of years ago. I brought along my
> copy of "Running on Empty" and he signed it. Funny guy - he can spin a yarn.
> I enjoyed his columns in AutoWeek until he..... well, you know.

Hey, everybody *says* it was technically not illegal in Alaska at that
time! ;^)

> He told this
> one: He was trying to impress his date with a "bootleg turn", i.e. put in a
> tiny bit of turn to the left and pull the parking brake. Rear wheels lock up
> and around you go until you are in the next lane heading in the other
> direction. One problem, however. Big problem too. He was driving a Saab
> (his favorite marque) and that particular model had the parking brake on the
> drive wheels.

Yeah; I learned about that stuff a few years back. Back when *I*
tried the same thing, it was in a Toyota FX-16 that, although FWD, had
the handbrake acting where God & Steven J. Cannell intended. That
little black 'Sawed-off Japanese Snotbox' would do a perfect 180 every
time. Sometimes, I really miss that car.

> As I type, I'm sitting here wearing the Yokohama (tires) long sleeve t-shirt
> that they gave away at the Boston convention a few years back. "Get seriously
> tired" with a 5 Series and a Yoky tire on the back.

Oktoberfest 1994? If so, I think you need to take another look at the
back of that shirt. The one they gave *me* (you might have remembered
a freshly-painted white Audi 4000CS Quattro on brand new Yokos there)
had a red E36. Yup; we might've 'met' - if you can call rubbing
elbows in a crowd of over 1000 BMW fanatics 'meeting'. But then,
that's how I know Satch, Farnsworth, Chamberlain, Taylor, Calabrese,
and the rest of the notorious 'CCA reprobates, too. You know: a
coupla' drinks and a few swapped yarns.
--
C.R. Krieger
(Been there, too!)