Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:57:39 -0400, Dave LaCourse
<dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:

>I didn't take the NJ turnpike. I used I84 and I81 to avoid NY, NJ,
>MD, and DC. You are correct about Mass drivers, but they aren't as
>bad as VA or CT, and we won't even mention NY. d;o)

If you mean NY drivers as in the NYC area, ok. But in western NY,
we're not so bad, really! Quite a few of us have the good sense to
own/drive Audi Quattros and Subarus.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

KLS wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:54:39 -0400, Dave LaCourse
> <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:05:10 -0400, Mike Smith
>><mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>that you must stay right when
>>>not passing. That sure would be nice, but it just ain't so.
>>
>>Most states that I am familiar with have a "keep right except to pass"
>>traffic law, and you will see the signs saying so. Some states even
>>give a diagram sign that points out the passing lane, travel lane, and
>>merge/slow lane.
>
>
> This is what I see where I drive, mostly in New York and Ohio.

I've lived in New York State since I was 5 years old, and I have never
seen such a diagram on a highway sign. Sure, at intersections, the
turning vs. through lanes are often painted on the road, but signs on
major highways enforcing rechtsfahren? Tell me where.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

KLS wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:54:39 -0400, Dave LaCourse
> <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:05:10 -0400, Mike Smith
>><mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>that you must stay right when
>>>not passing. That sure would be nice, but it just ain't so.
>>
>>Most states that I am familiar with have a "keep right except to pass"
>>traffic law, and you will see the signs saying so. Some states even
>>give a diagram sign that points out the passing lane, travel lane, and
>>merge/slow lane.
>
>
> This is what I see where I drive, mostly in New York and Ohio.

I've lived in New York State since I was 5 years old, and I have never
seen such a diagram on a highway sign. Sure, at intersections, the
turning vs. through lanes are often painted on the road, but signs on
major highways enforcing rechtsfahren? Tell me where.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

KLS wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:54:39 -0400, Dave LaCourse
> <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:05:10 -0400, Mike Smith
>><mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>that you must stay right when
>>>not passing. That sure would be nice, but it just ain't so.
>>
>>Most states that I am familiar with have a "keep right except to pass"
>>traffic law, and you will see the signs saying so. Some states even
>>give a diagram sign that points out the passing lane, travel lane, and
>>merge/slow lane.
>
>
> This is what I see where I drive, mostly in New York and Ohio.

I've lived in New York State since I was 5 years old, and I have never
seen such a diagram on a highway sign. Sure, at intersections, the
turning vs. through lanes are often painted on the road, but signs on
major highways enforcing rechtsfahren? Tell me where.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

KLS wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:54:39 -0400, Dave LaCourse
> <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:05:10 -0400, Mike Smith
>><mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>that you must stay right when
>>>not passing. That sure would be nice, but it just ain't so.
>>
>>Most states that I am familiar with have a "keep right except to pass"
>>traffic law, and you will see the signs saying so. Some states even
>>give a diagram sign that points out the passing lane, travel lane, and
>>merge/slow lane.
>
>
> This is what I see where I drive, mostly in New York and Ohio.

I've lived in New York State since I was 5 years old, and I have never
seen such a diagram on a highway sign. Sure, at intersections, the
turning vs. through lanes are often painted on the road, but signs on
major highways enforcing rechtsfahren? Tell me where.

--
Mike Smith

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:32:38 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>Tell me where.

Mass, CT, and NY. NY has a sign saying "passing lane/travel lane/slow
lane". Common sense should be enough for a driver to know not to
drive below the speed limit in the fast lane. Common sense should be
enough for a driver to know that he has traffic stacked up behind him
while in the fast lane. But, then again, ain't too many US drivers
with common sense. Take a trip to Europe - you'll learn real quickly.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:32:38 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>Tell me where.

Mass, CT, and NY. NY has a sign saying "passing lane/travel lane/slow
lane". Common sense should be enough for a driver to know not to
drive below the speed limit in the fast lane. Common sense should be
enough for a driver to know that he has traffic stacked up behind him
while in the fast lane. But, then again, ain't too many US drivers
with common sense. Take a trip to Europe - you'll learn real quickly.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:32:38 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>Tell me where.

Mass, CT, and NY. NY has a sign saying "passing lane/travel lane/slow
lane". Common sense should be enough for a driver to know not to
drive below the speed limit in the fast lane. Common sense should be
enough for a driver to know that he has traffic stacked up behind him
while in the fast lane. But, then again, ain't too many US drivers
with common sense. Take a trip to Europe - you'll learn real quickly.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:32:38 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>Tell me where.

Mass, CT, and NY. NY has a sign saying "passing lane/travel lane/slow
lane". Common sense should be enough for a driver to know not to
drive below the speed limit in the fast lane. Common sense should be
enough for a driver to know that he has traffic stacked up behind him
while in the fast lane. But, then again, ain't too many US drivers
with common sense. Take a trip to Europe - you'll learn real quickly.

Re: Bad Drivers
 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:32:38 -0400, Mike Smith
<mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> wrote:

>Tell me where.

Forgot to ask: Do you agree the law says "keep right except to pass"?