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Dave LaCourse 07-15-2005 11:07 AM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:15:11 -0400, "Art M"
<Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote:

>The thing that I notice about the "fast" lane is that many seem to think
>their amount of speeding is all right, but anything faster is just crazy so
>they're not moving over.


In other words they are saying, "I will select your speed limit."
Never escalate. Never impede. If I am traveling in the fast lane, it
is because I am passing someone, or I am in a line of traffic. When I
pass someone, I pull into the right (or center) lane, especially if
there is someone behind me. He wants to go faster -- who am I to deny
him? Left lane bandits are more dangerous than speeders - not as
dangerous as tailgaters, but right up there with causes for accidents.

Dave

BTW, the signs I saw were in CT. Mass has "keep right except to pass"
as many (all) states have.







Kyle Tucker 07-15-2005 11:49 AM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
In article <2gnfd1lul2fk5k3sp31fds8i9mnq4i1ue9@4ax.com>,
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> writes:
>
> In other words they are saying, "I will select your speed limit."
> Never escalate. Never impede. If I am traveling in the fast lane, it
> is because I am passing someone, or I am in a line of traffic. When I
> pass someone, I pull into the right (or center) lane, especially if
> there is someone behind me. He wants to go faster -- who am I to deny
> him? Left lane bandits are more dangerous than speeders - not as
> dangerous as tailgaters, but right up there with causes for accidents.


I drive south on Rt. 95 from NH to MA every morning. The 3rd lane
of 4 is filled with clueless dopes going 55-60, sometimes even less,
who aren't passing anyone, they're just forcing others to clog up
the 4th lane. 90% of these people are from Maine, where their own
Maine Turnpike has signs to keep right. I use headlights, horn
and/or quick French-style lane returns after passing in an effort
to get them to see they're in the wrong lane. 1 in an 50 will move
over.

It's our own home-grown problem and here's an example. A couple
months ago, I pick up my son from driver's ed class. Next to me
is a guy apparently picking up his son. The son hops in the SUV,
neither one is buckled up. The dog is on the the driver's lap.
Leaving, no turn signals are used and he just whips through a
stop sign. Good example Dad! And I see cops breaking common rules
almost daily. How the hell is the average Joe supposed to drive
well?

I've driven in Germany, France, Austria and Switzerland and
all over the US. We just suck when it comes to driving. I think
a lot of it is the "it's a free country, I'll do what I want"
attitude. The rest is just ignorance of what's going on around
them. Very lame.

Glad I didn't get started about cell phones.... :)

--
- Kyle

Kyle Tucker 07-15-2005 11:49 AM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
In article <2gnfd1lul2fk5k3sp31fds8i9mnq4i1ue9@4ax.com>,
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> writes:
>
> In other words they are saying, "I will select your speed limit."
> Never escalate. Never impede. If I am traveling in the fast lane, it
> is because I am passing someone, or I am in a line of traffic. When I
> pass someone, I pull into the right (or center) lane, especially if
> there is someone behind me. He wants to go faster -- who am I to deny
> him? Left lane bandits are more dangerous than speeders - not as
> dangerous as tailgaters, but right up there with causes for accidents.


I drive south on Rt. 95 from NH to MA every morning. The 3rd lane
of 4 is filled with clueless dopes going 55-60, sometimes even less,
who aren't passing anyone, they're just forcing others to clog up
the 4th lane. 90% of these people are from Maine, where their own
Maine Turnpike has signs to keep right. I use headlights, horn
and/or quick French-style lane returns after passing in an effort
to get them to see they're in the wrong lane. 1 in an 50 will move
over.

It's our own home-grown problem and here's an example. A couple
months ago, I pick up my son from driver's ed class. Next to me
is a guy apparently picking up his son. The son hops in the SUV,
neither one is buckled up. The dog is on the the driver's lap.
Leaving, no turn signals are used and he just whips through a
stop sign. Good example Dad! And I see cops breaking common rules
almost daily. How the hell is the average Joe supposed to drive
well?

I've driven in Germany, France, Austria and Switzerland and
all over the US. We just suck when it comes to driving. I think
a lot of it is the "it's a free country, I'll do what I want"
attitude. The rest is just ignorance of what's going on around
them. Very lame.

Glad I didn't get started about cell phones.... :)

--
- Kyle

Kyle Tucker 07-15-2005 11:49 AM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
In article <2gnfd1lul2fk5k3sp31fds8i9mnq4i1ue9@4ax.com>,
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> writes:
>
> In other words they are saying, "I will select your speed limit."
> Never escalate. Never impede. If I am traveling in the fast lane, it
> is because I am passing someone, or I am in a line of traffic. When I
> pass someone, I pull into the right (or center) lane, especially if
> there is someone behind me. He wants to go faster -- who am I to deny
> him? Left lane bandits are more dangerous than speeders - not as
> dangerous as tailgaters, but right up there with causes for accidents.


I drive south on Rt. 95 from NH to MA every morning. The 3rd lane
of 4 is filled with clueless dopes going 55-60, sometimes even less,
who aren't passing anyone, they're just forcing others to clog up
the 4th lane. 90% of these people are from Maine, where their own
Maine Turnpike has signs to keep right. I use headlights, horn
and/or quick French-style lane returns after passing in an effort
to get them to see they're in the wrong lane. 1 in an 50 will move
over.

It's our own home-grown problem and here's an example. A couple
months ago, I pick up my son from driver's ed class. Next to me
is a guy apparently picking up his son. The son hops in the SUV,
neither one is buckled up. The dog is on the the driver's lap.
Leaving, no turn signals are used and he just whips through a
stop sign. Good example Dad! And I see cops breaking common rules
almost daily. How the hell is the average Joe supposed to drive
well?

I've driven in Germany, France, Austria and Switzerland and
all over the US. We just suck when it comes to driving. I think
a lot of it is the "it's a free country, I'll do what I want"
attitude. The rest is just ignorance of what's going on around
them. Very lame.

Glad I didn't get started about cell phones.... :)

--
- Kyle

Jay Jones 07-15-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
Left lane cruising is epidemic here in Louisiana-- it should be a capital
offense, IMHO...
I often dream of the traffic laws here changing to favor the German standard
where rear-ended collisions in the left lane of the expressway are the
person in front's fault for not getting out of the damn way!


"Dave LaCourse" <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote in message
news:auu5d191g79h62gron8et9garkhcqgomaq@4ax.com...
> While I am home safely from a 724 mile trip to a wedding south of
> Roanoke, Virginia, I remained amazed at the terrible driving habits of
> people from Virginia and Connecticut.
>
> We drove the RS6 down on Thursday with Biblical rain storms all the
> way. Cow pissin' on a flat rock? Try the entire herd! Traffic was
> light, so things went fairly well. But, coming home on
> Sunday.........
>
> It was impossible to move most Virginia drivers from the fast lane. A
> hand-held nuclear device would not have helped. One woman in a Saturn
> insisted on staying in the fast lane while driving 62 mph. She had
> traffic backed up for 200 yards in both lanes. I finally managed to
> pass her (after about ten other cars/semis did) on the right side.
> I'm sure she felt that she was not breaking any laws, but by not
> staying to the right, she was.
>
> She wasn't the only one. It was like a swarm of left lane bandits
> came out of the Virginia hills and took up station in the left lane
> driving below the speed limit. When a trailer truck passes you going
> up hill, you have *got* to see the error of your ways. But no, not
> those Virginia drivers. Lane discipline means nothing to them. And
> where the hell are the cops? These drivers are holding up traffic.
> The worst place you want to be while driving is in a large pod of
> moving cars/trucks. Get the hell out of the way and let the traffic
> find its rhythm. The left lane hogs are far more dangerous by holding
> up traffic than someone speeding 10 or 15 mpy over the speed limit.
>
> And Connecticut! Same thing, only bigger yuppie style cars, and you
> have to contend with left lane exits. Who is the brilliant traffic
> engineer to dreamed that one up?
>
> Anyway, rant mode off. Flame suit on.
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>




Jay Jones 07-15-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
Left lane cruising is epidemic here in Louisiana-- it should be a capital
offense, IMHO...
I often dream of the traffic laws here changing to favor the German standard
where rear-ended collisions in the left lane of the expressway are the
person in front's fault for not getting out of the damn way!


"Dave LaCourse" <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote in message
news:auu5d191g79h62gron8et9garkhcqgomaq@4ax.com...
> While I am home safely from a 724 mile trip to a wedding south of
> Roanoke, Virginia, I remained amazed at the terrible driving habits of
> people from Virginia and Connecticut.
>
> We drove the RS6 down on Thursday with Biblical rain storms all the
> way. Cow pissin' on a flat rock? Try the entire herd! Traffic was
> light, so things went fairly well. But, coming home on
> Sunday.........
>
> It was impossible to move most Virginia drivers from the fast lane. A
> hand-held nuclear device would not have helped. One woman in a Saturn
> insisted on staying in the fast lane while driving 62 mph. She had
> traffic backed up for 200 yards in both lanes. I finally managed to
> pass her (after about ten other cars/semis did) on the right side.
> I'm sure she felt that she was not breaking any laws, but by not
> staying to the right, she was.
>
> She wasn't the only one. It was like a swarm of left lane bandits
> came out of the Virginia hills and took up station in the left lane
> driving below the speed limit. When a trailer truck passes you going
> up hill, you have *got* to see the error of your ways. But no, not
> those Virginia drivers. Lane discipline means nothing to them. And
> where the hell are the cops? These drivers are holding up traffic.
> The worst place you want to be while driving is in a large pod of
> moving cars/trucks. Get the hell out of the way and let the traffic
> find its rhythm. The left lane hogs are far more dangerous by holding
> up traffic than someone speeding 10 or 15 mpy over the speed limit.
>
> And Connecticut! Same thing, only bigger yuppie style cars, and you
> have to contend with left lane exits. Who is the brilliant traffic
> engineer to dreamed that one up?
>
> Anyway, rant mode off. Flame suit on.
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>




Jay Jones 07-15-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
Left lane cruising is epidemic here in Louisiana-- it should be a capital
offense, IMHO...
I often dream of the traffic laws here changing to favor the German standard
where rear-ended collisions in the left lane of the expressway are the
person in front's fault for not getting out of the damn way!


"Dave LaCourse" <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote in message
news:auu5d191g79h62gron8et9garkhcqgomaq@4ax.com...
> While I am home safely from a 724 mile trip to a wedding south of
> Roanoke, Virginia, I remained amazed at the terrible driving habits of
> people from Virginia and Connecticut.
>
> We drove the RS6 down on Thursday with Biblical rain storms all the
> way. Cow pissin' on a flat rock? Try the entire herd! Traffic was
> light, so things went fairly well. But, coming home on
> Sunday.........
>
> It was impossible to move most Virginia drivers from the fast lane. A
> hand-held nuclear device would not have helped. One woman in a Saturn
> insisted on staying in the fast lane while driving 62 mph. She had
> traffic backed up for 200 yards in both lanes. I finally managed to
> pass her (after about ten other cars/semis did) on the right side.
> I'm sure she felt that she was not breaking any laws, but by not
> staying to the right, she was.
>
> She wasn't the only one. It was like a swarm of left lane bandits
> came out of the Virginia hills and took up station in the left lane
> driving below the speed limit. When a trailer truck passes you going
> up hill, you have *got* to see the error of your ways. But no, not
> those Virginia drivers. Lane discipline means nothing to them. And
> where the hell are the cops? These drivers are holding up traffic.
> The worst place you want to be while driving is in a large pod of
> moving cars/trucks. Get the hell out of the way and let the traffic
> find its rhythm. The left lane hogs are far more dangerous by holding
> up traffic than someone speeding 10 or 15 mpy over the speed limit.
>
> And Connecticut! Same thing, only bigger yuppie style cars, and you
> have to contend with left lane exits. Who is the brilliant traffic
> engineer to dreamed that one up?
>
> Anyway, rant mode off. Flame suit on.
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>




Guy King 07-15-2005 12:31 PM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
The message <db8pf3$hkq$1@reader2.panix.com>
from kylet@horsehill.net (Kyle Tucker) contains these words:

> And I see cops breaking common rules
> almost daily. How the hell is the average Joe supposed to drive
> well?


We get that here, too. A local copper was nicked recently for doing
nearly 60mph in a 30mph zone and 159mph in a 70mph zone. Worse, he got
off.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...9/nspeed19.xml

--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."

Guy King 07-15-2005 12:31 PM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
The message <db8pf3$hkq$1@reader2.panix.com>
from kylet@horsehill.net (Kyle Tucker) contains these words:

> And I see cops breaking common rules
> almost daily. How the hell is the average Joe supposed to drive
> well?


We get that here, too. A local copper was nicked recently for doing
nearly 60mph in a 30mph zone and 159mph in a 70mph zone. Worse, he got
off.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...9/nspeed19.xml

--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."

Guy King 07-15-2005 12:31 PM

Re: Bad Drivers
 
The message <db8pf3$hkq$1@reader2.panix.com>
from kylet@horsehill.net (Kyle Tucker) contains these words:

> And I see cops breaking common rules
> almost daily. How the hell is the average Joe supposed to drive
> well?


We get that here, too. A local copper was nicked recently for doing
nearly 60mph in a 30mph zone and 159mph in a 70mph zone. Worse, he got
off.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...9/nspeed19.xml

--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."


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