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laurentien

Question here : can they do better then Peugeot with its HDi equiped
with particle filters ?
In Europe, there is an incrediblibly productive fight between VW and
Peugeot for the best diesel maker.

I would like once to see a coast-to-coast competition between the
leading car diesel manufaturers such as :
PSA (Peugeot-Citroen), VAG (VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat), Mercedes-Benz
and Volvo.

LHR

On Sep 30, 9:24 am, sjmmail2000-...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> America will soon discover Audi TDIŽ turbocharged clean diesel technology, which has earned media attention and consumer praise throughout the world for its exceptional fuel efficiency and dynamic performance. Next month,the Audi Q7 3.0 TDI will debut in the U.S. during the Audi Mileage Marathon, a two week cross country drive that will display [...]
> Read More:http://www.topgreencars.com/audi-cle...-coast-to-coas...
>
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Dave

> Question here : can they do better then Peugeot with its HDi equiped
> with particle filters ?
> In Europe, there is an incrediblibly productive fight between VW and
> Peugeot for the best diesel maker.
>
> I would like once to see a coast-to-coast competition between the
> leading car diesel manufaturers such as :
> PSA (Peugeot-Citroen), VAG (VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat), Mercedes-Benz
> and Volvo.

You forgot BMW. Their diesels are probably the best on the market at the
moment.

Also, Volvo diesels are just PSA units anyway since Volvo's owned by Ford
and Ford works closely with PSA on their diesels.

dave AKA vwdoc1

So Volvo stopped using VW diesel engines?
--
later,
(One out of many daves)
1997 Red A4 1.8tq auto

"Dave" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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>> Question here : can they do better then Peugeot with its HDi equiped
>> with particle filters ?
>> In Europe, there is an incrediblibly productive fight between VW and
>> Peugeot for the best diesel maker.
>>
>> I would like once to see a coast-to-coast competition between the
>> leading car diesel manufaturers such as :
>> PSA (Peugeot-Citroen), VAG (VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat), Mercedes-Benz
>> and Volvo.
>
> You forgot BMW. Their diesels are probably the best on the market at the
> moment.
>
> Also, Volvo diesels are just PSA units anyway since Volvo's owned by Ford
> and Ford works closely with PSA on their diesels.
>
>
>

Dave

> So Volvo stopped using VW diesel engines?

They may still use them in some cars but the current 1.6 and 2.0 diesels are
Ford/PSA engines

dave AKA vwdoc1

thanks
I need to do some more research!

"Dave" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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>> So Volvo stopped using VW diesel engines?
>
> They may still use them in some cars but the current 1.6 and 2.0 diesels
> are Ford/PSA engines
>

laurentien

On Oct 9, 2:36 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com>
wrote:
> thanks
> I need to do some more research!
>
> "Dave" <a...@b.c> wrote in message
>
> news:k8SdnTAjlbwBWXDVnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> >> So Volvo stopped using VW diesel engines?
>
> > They may still use them in some cars but the current 1.6 and 2.0 diesels
> > are Ford/PSA engines

Yes, BMW has made a lot of catching up when you consider how bad the
1990 2.5 turbo-diesel was.

PSA also supplied the Diesel on Rover as well so I suspect that the
Hondas built in the UK on the same lines than Rovers did get theirs
form PSA.

LHR

David Skelton

"laurentien" <luc.rolland@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3e57251c-e493-49a7-80a4-8b2f846212be@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 9, 2:36 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com>
wrote:
> thanks
> I need to do some more research!
>
> "Dave" <a...@b.c> wrote in message
>
> news:k8SdnTAjlbwBWXDVnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> >> So Volvo stopped using VW diesel engines?
>
> > They may still use them in some cars but the current 1.6 and 2.0 diesels
> > are Ford/PSA engines

Yes, BMW has made a lot of catching up when you consider how bad the
1990 2.5 turbo-diesel was.

PSA also supplied the Diesel on Rover as well so I suspect that the
Hondas built in the UK on the same lines than Rovers did get theirs
form PSA.

LHR


The Rover 75 2.0 diesel is a detuned BMW unit.
The PSA HDI and VW PD diesels are not very good when compared to the same
era BMW engines.
The Volvo D5 is a Volvo engine.
None of them like supermarket diesel when used around town and the VNG
turbos are not given enough exercise, and the particulate filter cannot
regenerate properly.

Best regards

David

laurentien

On Oct 29, 2:31 pm, "David Skelton" <david.skelton8...@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:
> "laurentien" <luc.roll...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3e57251c-e493-49a7-80a4-8b2f846212be@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 9, 2:36 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > thanks
> > I need to do some more research!
>
> > "Dave" <a...@b.c> wrote in message
>
> >news:k8SdnTAjlbwBWXDVnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > >> So Volvo stopped using VW diesel engines?
>
> > > They may still use them in some cars but the current 1.6 and 2.0 diesels
> > > are Ford/PSA engines
>
> Yes, BMW has made a lot of catching up when you consider how bad the
> 1990 2.5 turbo-diesel was.
>
> PSA also supplied the Diesel on Rover as well so I suspect that the
> Hondas built in the UK on the same lines than Rovers did get theirs
> form PSA.
>
> LHR
>
> The Rover 75 2.0 diesel is a detuned BMW unit.
> The PSA HDI and VW PD diesels are not very good when compared to the same
> era BMW engines.
> The Volvo D5 is a Volvo engine.
> None of them like supermarket diesel when used around town and the VNG
> turbos are not given enough exercise, and the particulate filter cannot
> regenerate properly.
>
> Best regards
>
> David

It depends which era you are talking about.

Middle of nineties, BMW did Diesels that had a very serious problem
and they were very weak compared to VW or PSA.
At that time, Rover was using PSA´s diesels. Maybe Rover switched to
BMW´s when they passed under BMW control.

I have to disagree here since the PSA and VW engines are very reliable
and it is shwon in the reports.
My own experience with the 1.9 L TDi is that it is a great engine with
ample torque for a large family transported in a sedan like the 80 or
now the A4. The milleage is just great and I do recommend to buy these
vehicles, especially the old ones.
We will need a few more years to see how the recent powerfull BMW
diesels survive and if they can outperform the others.

LHR

David Skelton

"laurentien" <luc.rolland@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:70a91138-4bbe-4e49-bd49-b04f8c826968@v72g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 29, 2:31 pm, "David Skelton" <david.skelton8...@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:
> "laurentien" <luc.roll...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3e57251c-e493-49a7-80a4-8b2f846212be@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 9, 2:36 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > thanks
> > I need to do some more research!
>
> > "Dave" <a...@b.c> wrote in message
>
> >news:k8SdnTAjlbwBWXDVnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > >> So Volvo stopped using VW diesel engines?
>
> > > They may still use them in some cars but the current 1.6 and 2.0
> > > diesels
> > > are Ford/PSA engines
>
> Yes, BMW has made a lot of catching up when you consider how bad the
> 1990 2.5 turbo-diesel was.
>
> PSA also supplied the Diesel on Rover as well so I suspect that the
> Hondas built in the UK on the same lines than Rovers did get theirs
> form PSA.
>
> LHR
>
> The Rover 75 2.0 diesel is a detuned BMW unit.
> The PSA HDI and VW PD diesels are not very good when compared to the same
> era BMW engines.
> The Volvo D5 is a Volvo engine.
> None of them like supermarket diesel when used around town and the VNG
> turbos are not given enough exercise, and the particulate filter cannot
> regenerate properly.
>
> Best regards
>
> David

It depends which era you are talking about.

Middle of nineties, BMW did Diesels that had a very serious problem
and they were very weak compared to VW or PSA.
At that time, Rover was using PSA´s diesels. Maybe Rover switched to
BMW´s when they passed under BMW control.

I have to disagree here since the PSA and VW engines are very reliable
and it is shwon in the reports.
My own experience with the 1.9 L TDi is that it is a great engine with
ample torque for a large family transported in a sedan like the 80 or
now the A4. The milleage is just great and I do recommend to buy these
vehicles, especially the old ones.
We will need a few more years to see how the recent powerfull BMW
diesels survive and if they can outperform the others.

LHR

Is yours a PD TDi then, I thought it wasn't.
Talking a lot to the people who have to fix them, those PD engines are not
reliable. They have filthy emissions and the 1.9 TDi engine is pathetic.
Whenever I am behind a 1.9 VAG diesel, I cannot see ahead because of the
smoke pouring out of the tailpipe. That is partly why VAG have moved away
from PD technology and have adopted the common rail system.

The mid nineties and earlier BMW diesel engines did need a lot of oil
changes, and granted, the equivalent MB diesels were better.

The Landrover Freelander 2.0d is also a BMW engine too.

Best regards

David