Stuart

Tonight I heard the alarm go off on the car.
I had left the car secure with all windows closed.

When I went out the lights were still flashing and ALL the windows were open
!
What a nightmare.
Events of the day that may be related to the incident:-
1. The wife washed my switchblade key, I tested it on the 10 minutes car
previous to this incident and it seemed to work.
2. Had a bump this morning at the rear off side, just the bumper and the
tail light were damaged.


Please let me know if you have any ideas why all the windows opened, this is
a nightmare scenario for the security of the vehicle if it happens and I am
not there.

TIA
Stuart

R@L

"Stuart" <greenbanshee66@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jK8xb.564$1z2.40@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Tonight I heard the alarm go off on the car.
> I had left the car secure with all windows closed.
>
> When I went out the lights were still flashing and ALL the windows were
open
> !
> What a nightmare.
> Events of the day that may be related to the incident:-
> 1. The wife washed my switchblade key, I tested it on the 10 minutes car
> previous to this incident and it seemed to work.
> 2. Had a bump this morning at the rear off side, just the bumper and the
> tail light were damaged.
>
>
> Please let me know if you have any ideas why all the windows opened, this
is
> a nightmare scenario for the security of the vehicle if it happens and I
am
> not there.
>
> TIA
> Stuart
>

Maybe ypur cars computer brain had a TIA?

Ronald
>
>

daytripper

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:14:21 -0000, "Stuart" <greenbanshee66@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Tonight I heard the alarm go off on the car.
>I had left the car secure with all windows closed.
>
>When I went out the lights were still flashing and ALL the windows were open
>!
>What a nightmare.
>Events of the day that may be related to the incident:-
>1. The wife washed my switchblade key, I tested it on the 10 minutes car
>previous to this incident and it seemed to work.
>2. Had a bump this morning at the rear off side, just the bumper and the
>tail light were damaged.
>
>
>Please let me know if you have any ideas why all the windows opened, this is
>a nightmare scenario for the security of the vehicle if it happens and I am
>not there.

Geezus, sorry about your day!

I have configured my keyfob to allow opening all of the windows (among other
"extra" functions). My bet is that's what your keyfob commanded, as you walked
away from the car.

Maybe use the backup key until the first one dries out a bit longer?

/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd

Toby Groves

In article <jK8xb.564$1z2.40@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, Stuart
<greenbanshee66@yahoo.com> writes
>Tonight I heard the alarm go off on the car.
>I had left the car secure with all windows closed.
>
>When I went out the lights were still flashing and ALL the windows were open
>!
>What a nightmare.

LOL!

I'm sorry to laugh, I know it's a serious matter, I just find the whole
idea of a car spontaneously opening all it's windows rather funny for
some twisted reason )
--
Toby

Peter Bell

In message <ps9asvcqcdd4ag3bidqiktmiali4sppcq9@4ax.com>
daytripper <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:14:21 -0000, "Stuart"
> <greenbanshee66@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Tonight I heard the alarm go off on the car.
> >I had left the car secure with all windows closed.
> >
> >When I went out the lights were still flashing and ALL the windows
> >were open

[Snip]

> I have configured my keyfob to allow opening all of the windows (among
> other "extra" functions). My bet is that's what your keyfob commanded,
> as you walked away from the car.

But surely it will only wind the windows down in conjunction with an
unlock command? If that were the case, then the alarm wouldn't be
sounding.

I guess that it might just be possible that the fob transmitted a long
unlock sequence (causing the windows to open), followed by a short lock
sequence (setting the alarm, but not closing the windows).

I am aware that the buttons on my keyfob can be pressed accidentally if
I bend down with the key on my trouser pocket. Stuart, is it possible
that the buttons did get pressed accidentally whilst you were within
range of the car?

--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')

daytripper

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:16:16 GMT, Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

>In message <ps9asvcqcdd4ag3bidqiktmiali4sppcq9@4ax.com>
> daytripper <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:14:21 -0000, "Stuart"
>> <greenbanshee66@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Tonight I heard the alarm go off on the car.
>> >I had left the car secure with all windows closed.
>> >
>> >When I went out the lights were still flashing and ALL the windows
>> >were open
>
> [Snip]
>
>> I have configured my keyfob to allow opening all of the windows (among
>> other "extra" functions). My bet is that's what your keyfob commanded,
>> as you walked away from the car.
>
>But surely it will only wind the windows down in conjunction with an
>unlock command? If that were the case, then the alarm wouldn't be
>sounding.
>
>I guess that it might just be possible that the fob transmitted a long
>unlock sequence (causing the windows to open), followed by a short lock
>sequence (setting the alarm, but not closing the windows).
>
>I am aware that the buttons on my keyfob can be pressed accidentally if
>I bend down with the key on my trouser pocket. Stuart, is it possible
>that the buttons did get pressed accidentally whilst you were within
>range of the car?


On my '00 S4, if I unlock the car but don't open a door the alarm will
automatically re-arm within 60 seconds.

So commanding the unlock/windows down, and not opening a door, would result in
all of the windows open with the alarm re-armed...

/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd

Ronny

"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1ojasvge181v1qeoh6qjur3f17ri7ng39a@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:16:16 GMT, Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >In message <ps9asvcqcdd4ag3bidqiktmiali4sppcq9@4ax.com>
> > daytripper <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:14:21 -0000, "Stuart"
> >> <greenbanshee66@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Tonight I heard the alarm go off on the car.
> >> >I had left the car secure with all windows closed.
> >> >
> >> >When I went out the lights were still flashing and ALL the windows
> >> >were open
> >
> > [Snip]
> >
> >> I have configured my keyfob to allow opening all of the windows (among
> >> other "extra" functions). My bet is that's what your keyfob commanded,
> >> as you walked away from the car.
> >
> >But surely it will only wind the windows down in conjunction with an
> >unlock command? If that were the case, then the alarm wouldn't be
> >sounding.
> >
> >I guess that it might just be possible that the fob transmitted a long
> >unlock sequence (causing the windows to open), followed by a short lock
> >sequence (setting the alarm, but not closing the windows).
> >
> >I am aware that the buttons on my keyfob can be pressed accidentally if
> >I bend down with the key on my trouser pocket. Stuart, is it possible
> >that the buttons did get pressed accidentally whilst you were within
> >range of the car?
>
>
> On my '00 S4, if I unlock the car but don't open a door the alarm will
> automatically re-arm within 60 seconds.
>
> So commanding the unlock/windows down, and not opening a door, would
result in
> all of the windows open with the alarm re-armed...
>
> /daytripper
> '00 s4 6spd

if you unlock the car but dont put the key in the ignition and then shut the
door again the car will lock and re-arm whithin 60 secs, the opening of the
door doesnt matter, FWIW

Ron

Stuart

"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
newsnbvwgAkdSx$EwI7@iconia.org.uk...
> In article <jK8xb.564$1z2.40@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, Stuart
> <greenbanshee66@yahoo.com> writes
> >Tonight I heard the alarm go off on the car.
> >I had left the car secure with all windows closed.
> >
> >When I went out the lights were still flashing and ALL the windows were
open
> >!
> >What a nightmare.
>
> LOL!
>
> I'm sorry to laugh, I know it's a serious matter, I just find the whole
> idea of a car spontaneously opening all it's windows rather funny for
> some twisted reason )
> --
> Toby
Thanks for all the time you have taken to respond to this post everyone.
It would seem that the resounding opinion is that the fault was with the Key
Fob as opposed to anything caused by collision damage to the rear bumper.

Sorry if I am not following protocol here, Peter asked a question in the
middle of this thread "Could the fob have been activated accidentally"
I unlocked and locked the car from the house to test the soggy fob. So quite
deliberate really.

And just for Toby's benefit, on top of this after parking my car at the
deserted opposite side of the car park for 2 years, I finally got lazy
Saturday, parked in the nearest space to the entrance and someone reversed
out of the restaurant car park and scraped both doors ;'-(

Its all a relief now. These things may only come in threes, that's the three
things over and now so I am off to the bodyshop now to see if this will be
an insurance job or cash ;-'(

The wheels were all needing refurbed anyway due to the lacquer peeling
off -so to the next question, I do not plan.can't afford to buy new wheels
so AFAIK I can
1.Have them sprayed.
2.Have them powder coated.
Are there any opinions on this.
Have I just mixed a topic in a thread and will now be flamed ?
I will repost if no-one that reads has a firm opinion.

Thanks again for all the responses.
Stuart

Toby Groves

In article <h3jxb.9078$SJ2.3545@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, Stuart
<greenbanshee66@yahoo.com> writes
>And just for Toby's benefit, on top of this after parking my car at the
>deserted opposite side of the car park for 2 years, I finally got lazy
>Saturday, parked in the nearest space to the entrance and someone reversed
>out of the restaurant car park and scraped both doors ;'-(

Now that's not funny at all (
--
Toby

nowhere@home.com

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:16:16 GMT, Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk>
wrote:

>> I have configured my keyfob to allow opening all of the windows (among
>> other "extra" functions). My bet is that's what your keyfob commanded,
>> as you walked away from the car.
>
>But surely it will only wind the windows down in conjunction with an
>unlock command? If that were the case, then the alarm wouldn't be
>sounding.
>
>I guess that it might just be possible that the fob transmitted a long
>unlock sequence (causing the windows to open), followed by a short lock
>sequence (setting the alarm, but not closing the windows).
>
>I am aware that the buttons on my keyfob can be pressed accidentally if
>I bend down with the key on my trouser pocket. Stuart, is it possible
>that the buttons did get pressed accidentally whilst you were within
>range of the car?

.... or it could be the well known 'bug' in Audi and VW cars which
makes the windows open completely on their own. I know as it happened
to my A6 - all or some of the windows would open during the night and
sometimes the alarm would go off. The key fob was well out of range
at the time. I don't know whether it's the software or maybe some
damp can get into the window/central locking computer (it's located
under the floor by the passenger seat on the UK model).

The solution on my car was to disable the "total closure" option. It
hasn't happened since.

Also beware another common fault with Audis where the windows jam and
won't close! If this happens get it fixed straight away as using the
windows in this state my damage then regular and/or motor.

Mark.