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Steve Sears 11-17-2005 08:37 AM

Re: Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
Jonathan,
I was thinking "crash damage" too - even a low speed slide into a curb can
result in huge damage to the complex multi-link suspension - and adding on
the behavior of the aluminum space frame following damage from a crash (the
aluminum can't be pulled out & fixed like steel can). The "fix" the vendor
offers may only be good for a short time, and then the alignment will creep
out on that corner again.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Jonathan Morton" <jonathan@jonathanmortonbutignorethisbit.co.uk> wrote in
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>> "Jonathan Morton" wrote:
>> >
>> > Hmm... the thing that immediately struck me about no 3 was the word
>> > "alignment". That really is one of the things you can't put right on a
>> > quattro - after all, if it could be put right, why hasn't it been done?

>>
>> I checked CarFax and the dealer just bought the car at auction a week or

> so
>> ago. Based on the RF tire wear, it has been out of alignment for some

> time.
>> Dealer replaced the brakes and both front tires just the other day (after

> my
>> test drive).
>>
>> Are you saying that once an A8 quattro goes out of alignment, you'll
>> never
>> get it back again??

>
> I'm just thinking that the reason for the lack of alignment *might* be
> crash
> damage causing the car to be out of true.
>
> Even when properly set up, these cars do eat front tyres - especially the
> inner edges.
>
>> What are your thoughts about a 1997 straight auto vs. a 1998 with

> Tiptronic?
>> I'm most concerned about punching it to pass or needing to get moving
>> quickly in tight traffic.

>
> Well, mine's a 2000-model with Tiptronic - though I have to say I very
> rarely use the Tip. Even with the conventional 4-speed auto you won't
> suffer
> from lack of performance.
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan
>
>




Steve Sears 11-17-2005 08:37 AM

Re: Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
Jonathan,
I was thinking "crash damage" too - even a low speed slide into a curb can
result in huge damage to the complex multi-link suspension - and adding on
the behavior of the aluminum space frame following damage from a crash (the
aluminum can't be pulled out & fixed like steel can). The "fix" the vendor
offers may only be good for a short time, and then the alignment will creep
out on that corner again.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Jonathan Morton" <jonathan@jonathanmortonbutignorethisbit.co.uk> wrote in
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> "[ a m z ]" <amz.REMOVETHIS@eskimo.REMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
> news:w0Pef.99$8U4.5367@news.uswest.net...
>> "Jonathan Morton" wrote:
>> >
>> > Hmm... the thing that immediately struck me about no 3 was the word
>> > "alignment". That really is one of the things you can't put right on a
>> > quattro - after all, if it could be put right, why hasn't it been done?

>>
>> I checked CarFax and the dealer just bought the car at auction a week or

> so
>> ago. Based on the RF tire wear, it has been out of alignment for some

> time.
>> Dealer replaced the brakes and both front tires just the other day (after

> my
>> test drive).
>>
>> Are you saying that once an A8 quattro goes out of alignment, you'll
>> never
>> get it back again??

>
> I'm just thinking that the reason for the lack of alignment *might* be
> crash
> damage causing the car to be out of true.
>
> Even when properly set up, these cars do eat front tyres - especially the
> inner edges.
>
>> What are your thoughts about a 1997 straight auto vs. a 1998 with

> Tiptronic?
>> I'm most concerned about punching it to pass or needing to get moving
>> quickly in tight traffic.

>
> Well, mine's a 2000-model with Tiptronic - though I have to say I very
> rarely use the Tip. Even with the conventional 4-speed auto you won't
> suffer
> from lack of performance.
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan
>
>




Steve Sears 11-17-2005 08:37 AM

Re: Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
Jonathan,
I was thinking "crash damage" too - even a low speed slide into a curb can
result in huge damage to the complex multi-link suspension - and adding on
the behavior of the aluminum space frame following damage from a crash (the
aluminum can't be pulled out & fixed like steel can). The "fix" the vendor
offers may only be good for a short time, and then the alignment will creep
out on that corner again.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Jonathan Morton" <jonathan@jonathanmortonbutignorethisbit.co.uk> wrote in
message news:dlhckh$adl$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> "[ a m z ]" <amz.REMOVETHIS@eskimo.REMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
> news:w0Pef.99$8U4.5367@news.uswest.net...
>> "Jonathan Morton" wrote:
>> >
>> > Hmm... the thing that immediately struck me about no 3 was the word
>> > "alignment". That really is one of the things you can't put right on a
>> > quattro - after all, if it could be put right, why hasn't it been done?

>>
>> I checked CarFax and the dealer just bought the car at auction a week or

> so
>> ago. Based on the RF tire wear, it has been out of alignment for some

> time.
>> Dealer replaced the brakes and both front tires just the other day (after

> my
>> test drive).
>>
>> Are you saying that once an A8 quattro goes out of alignment, you'll
>> never
>> get it back again??

>
> I'm just thinking that the reason for the lack of alignment *might* be
> crash
> damage causing the car to be out of true.
>
> Even when properly set up, these cars do eat front tyres - especially the
> inner edges.
>
>> What are your thoughts about a 1997 straight auto vs. a 1998 with

> Tiptronic?
>> I'm most concerned about punching it to pass or needing to get moving
>> quickly in tight traffic.

>
> Well, mine's a 2000-model with Tiptronic - though I have to say I very
> rarely use the Tip. Even with the conventional 4-speed auto you won't
> suffer
> from lack of performance.
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan
>
>





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