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[ a m z ] 11-15-2005 05:31 PM

Argh! Decisions, decisions re: A8
 
I'm torn and hoping that others on here might have some thoughts and/or
suggestions.

Looking to replace my 1988 5000s quattro with, most likely, an A8 (1997 to
2000). I have a few options -- each with positives and negatives. Price is
an issue, but much of that is in the hands of my lender. Any car I'd buy
would be inspected by independent Audi-friendly shop. Here are a few of the
ones I'm looking at:

1. 1997 A8 with 135,000 miles. Ivory (pearl?) & tan. Also owned by an
enthusiast who did most of his own work on it. Timing belt was done by
dealer back around 80K. Lots of other small stuff, including a half axle
and CV boots done within the past 20K. Interior OK (driver's seat pretty
worn), but plenty of little annoyances (driver seat heat iffy, rear power
shade doesn't work, a few other conveniences don't work). Has ceramic brake
pads and V-rated rubber with plenty of tread. Seller says he's flexible on
price.

2. 1997 A8 with 99,000 miles. Dark blue & tan. Nicely maintained by an
Audi enthusiast. Most work done by owner. Tranny rebuilt not long ago, but
still hasn't had timing belt or water pump worked on. Drives nice, but
brakes are a little spongy for my tastes.

3. 1998 A8 with 88,000 miles. Black & tan. At a non-Audi dealership.
Supposedly a lease return. Beautiful exterior and interior. Brakes done by
the non-Audi dealer. Alignment may be an issue, but they promised to fix &
make sure car is fully safe and legal. No records available for if/when
timing belt, etc. may have been done.

ANY thoughts would be appreciated. There are a few other cars I'm
considering (incl. a nice 2000 A8 that is a 3hr. drive away), but these are
the top contenders at the moment.

I would appreciate any public or private comments, suggestions or questions
I should ask them or myself. FYI... I'm open to getting an A6 if it is
zippy and nice enough, but an A4 is too small.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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[ a m z ] 11-16-2005 03:48 AM

Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
(updated from original post)

I'm torn and hoping that others on here might have some thoughts and/or
suggestions.

Looking to replace my 1988 5000s quattro with, most likely, an A8 (1997 to
2000). I have a few options -- each with positives and negatives. Price is
an issue, but much of that is in the hands of my lender. Any car I'd buy
would be inspected by independent Audi-friendly shop. Here are a few of the
ones I'm looking at:

1. 1997 A8 with 135,000 miles. Ivory (pearl?) & tan. Owned by an
enthusiast who did most of his own work on it. Timing belt was done by
dealer back around 80K. Lots of other small stuff, including a half axle
and CV boots done within the past 20K. Interior OK (driver's seat pretty
worn), but plenty of little annoyances (driver seat heat iffy, rear power
shade doesn't work, a few other conveniences don't work). Has ceramic brake
pads and V-rated rubber with plenty of tread. Seller says he's flexible on
price.

2. 1997 A8 with 99,000 miles. Dark blue & tan. Nicely maintained by an
Audi enthusiast. Most work done by owner. Tranny rebuilt not long ago, but
still hasn't had timing belt or water pump worked on. Drives nice, but
brakes are a little spongy for my tastes.

3. 1998 A8 with 88,000 miles. Black & tan. At a non-Audi dealership.
Supposedly a lease return. Beautiful exterior and interior. Brakes done by
the non-Audi dealer & two front tires are new (back look like about 50%).
Alignment may be an issue, but they promised to fix & make sure car is fully
safe and legal. No records available for if/when timing belt, etc. may have
been done. Only car of the three with Tiptronic.

ANY thoughts would be appreciated. There are a few other cars I'm
considering (incl. a nice 2000 A8 that is a 3hr. drive away), but these are
the top contenders at the moment.

I would appreciate any public or private comments, suggestions or questions
I should ask them or myself. FYI... I'm open to getting an A6 if it is
zippy and nice enough, but an A4 is too small.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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[ a m z ] 11-16-2005 03:48 AM

Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
(updated from original post)

I'm torn and hoping that others on here might have some thoughts and/or
suggestions.

Looking to replace my 1988 5000s quattro with, most likely, an A8 (1997 to
2000). I have a few options -- each with positives and negatives. Price is
an issue, but much of that is in the hands of my lender. Any car I'd buy
would be inspected by independent Audi-friendly shop. Here are a few of the
ones I'm looking at:

1. 1997 A8 with 135,000 miles. Ivory (pearl?) & tan. Owned by an
enthusiast who did most of his own work on it. Timing belt was done by
dealer back around 80K. Lots of other small stuff, including a half axle
and CV boots done within the past 20K. Interior OK (driver's seat pretty
worn), but plenty of little annoyances (driver seat heat iffy, rear power
shade doesn't work, a few other conveniences don't work). Has ceramic brake
pads and V-rated rubber with plenty of tread. Seller says he's flexible on
price.

2. 1997 A8 with 99,000 miles. Dark blue & tan. Nicely maintained by an
Audi enthusiast. Most work done by owner. Tranny rebuilt not long ago, but
still hasn't had timing belt or water pump worked on. Drives nice, but
brakes are a little spongy for my tastes.

3. 1998 A8 with 88,000 miles. Black & tan. At a non-Audi dealership.
Supposedly a lease return. Beautiful exterior and interior. Brakes done by
the non-Audi dealer & two front tires are new (back look like about 50%).
Alignment may be an issue, but they promised to fix & make sure car is fully
safe and legal. No records available for if/when timing belt, etc. may have
been done. Only car of the three with Tiptronic.

ANY thoughts would be appreciated. There are a few other cars I'm
considering (incl. a nice 2000 A8 that is a 3hr. drive away), but these are
the top contenders at the moment.

I would appreciate any public or private comments, suggestions or questions
I should ask them or myself. FYI... I'm open to getting an A6 if it is
zippy and nice enough, but an A4 is too small.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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[ a m z ] 11-16-2005 03:48 AM

Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
(updated from original post)

I'm torn and hoping that others on here might have some thoughts and/or
suggestions.

Looking to replace my 1988 5000s quattro with, most likely, an A8 (1997 to
2000). I have a few options -- each with positives and negatives. Price is
an issue, but much of that is in the hands of my lender. Any car I'd buy
would be inspected by independent Audi-friendly shop. Here are a few of the
ones I'm looking at:

1. 1997 A8 with 135,000 miles. Ivory (pearl?) & tan. Owned by an
enthusiast who did most of his own work on it. Timing belt was done by
dealer back around 80K. Lots of other small stuff, including a half axle
and CV boots done within the past 20K. Interior OK (driver's seat pretty
worn), but plenty of little annoyances (driver seat heat iffy, rear power
shade doesn't work, a few other conveniences don't work). Has ceramic brake
pads and V-rated rubber with plenty of tread. Seller says he's flexible on
price.

2. 1997 A8 with 99,000 miles. Dark blue & tan. Nicely maintained by an
Audi enthusiast. Most work done by owner. Tranny rebuilt not long ago, but
still hasn't had timing belt or water pump worked on. Drives nice, but
brakes are a little spongy for my tastes.

3. 1998 A8 with 88,000 miles. Black & tan. At a non-Audi dealership.
Supposedly a lease return. Beautiful exterior and interior. Brakes done by
the non-Audi dealer & two front tires are new (back look like about 50%).
Alignment may be an issue, but they promised to fix & make sure car is fully
safe and legal. No records available for if/when timing belt, etc. may have
been done. Only car of the three with Tiptronic.

ANY thoughts would be appreciated. There are a few other cars I'm
considering (incl. a nice 2000 A8 that is a 3hr. drive away), but these are
the top contenders at the moment.

I would appreciate any public or private comments, suggestions or questions
I should ask them or myself. FYI... I'm open to getting an A6 if it is
zippy and nice enough, but an A4 is too small.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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[ a m z ] 11-16-2005 03:48 AM

Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
(updated from original post)

I'm torn and hoping that others on here might have some thoughts and/or
suggestions.

Looking to replace my 1988 5000s quattro with, most likely, an A8 (1997 to
2000). I have a few options -- each with positives and negatives. Price is
an issue, but much of that is in the hands of my lender. Any car I'd buy
would be inspected by independent Audi-friendly shop. Here are a few of the
ones I'm looking at:

1. 1997 A8 with 135,000 miles. Ivory (pearl?) & tan. Owned by an
enthusiast who did most of his own work on it. Timing belt was done by
dealer back around 80K. Lots of other small stuff, including a half axle
and CV boots done within the past 20K. Interior OK (driver's seat pretty
worn), but plenty of little annoyances (driver seat heat iffy, rear power
shade doesn't work, a few other conveniences don't work). Has ceramic brake
pads and V-rated rubber with plenty of tread. Seller says he's flexible on
price.

2. 1997 A8 with 99,000 miles. Dark blue & tan. Nicely maintained by an
Audi enthusiast. Most work done by owner. Tranny rebuilt not long ago, but
still hasn't had timing belt or water pump worked on. Drives nice, but
brakes are a little spongy for my tastes.

3. 1998 A8 with 88,000 miles. Black & tan. At a non-Audi dealership.
Supposedly a lease return. Beautiful exterior and interior. Brakes done by
the non-Audi dealer & two front tires are new (back look like about 50%).
Alignment may be an issue, but they promised to fix & make sure car is fully
safe and legal. No records available for if/when timing belt, etc. may have
been done. Only car of the three with Tiptronic.

ANY thoughts would be appreciated. There are a few other cars I'm
considering (incl. a nice 2000 A8 that is a 3hr. drive away), but these are
the top contenders at the moment.

I would appreciate any public or private comments, suggestions or questions
I should ask them or myself. FYI... I'm open to getting an A6 if it is
zippy and nice enough, but an A4 is too small.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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Steve Sears 11-16-2005 09:28 AM

Re: Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
amz,
I'd go with #2, with the provision that the timing belt/pump/etc. (+front
crank seal while you're in there?) gets replaced prior to your purchase -
otherwise take it out of the price. #1 seems nice - and it's the only one
of the three that doesn't need an immediate t-belt servicing (take "No
records" to mean "Not done" on #3). I'd run away from #3 - replacing only 2
tires on a quattro is a death sentence for the diffs (owning a 5kq you
should know that) and them telling you that they'll fix things like the
alignment is worth the paper it's written on.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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Steve Sears 11-16-2005 09:28 AM

Re: Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
amz,
I'd go with #2, with the provision that the timing belt/pump/etc. (+front
crank seal while you're in there?) gets replaced prior to your purchase -
otherwise take it out of the price. #1 seems nice - and it's the only one
of the three that doesn't need an immediate t-belt servicing (take "No
records" to mean "Not done" on #3). I'd run away from #3 - replacing only 2
tires on a quattro is a death sentence for the diffs (owning a 5kq you
should know that) and them telling you that they'll fix things like the
alignment is worth the paper it's written on.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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Steve Sears 11-16-2005 09:28 AM

Re: Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
amz,
I'd go with #2, with the provision that the timing belt/pump/etc. (+front
crank seal while you're in there?) gets replaced prior to your purchase -
otherwise take it out of the price. #1 seems nice - and it's the only one
of the three that doesn't need an immediate t-belt servicing (take "No
records" to mean "Not done" on #3). I'd run away from #3 - replacing only 2
tires on a quattro is a death sentence for the diffs (owning a 5kq you
should know that) and them telling you that they'll fix things like the
alignment is worth the paper it's written on.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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Steve Sears 11-16-2005 09:28 AM

Re: Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
amz,
I'd go with #2, with the provision that the timing belt/pump/etc. (+front
crank seal while you're in there?) gets replaced prior to your purchase -
otherwise take it out of the price. #1 seems nice - and it's the only one
of the three that doesn't need an immediate t-belt servicing (take "No
records" to mean "Not done" on #3). I'd run away from #3 - replacing only 2
tires on a quattro is a death sentence for the diffs (owning a 5kq you
should know that) and them telling you that they'll fix things like the
alignment is worth the paper it's written on.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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Dano58 11-16-2005 09:58 AM

Re: Thoughts & suggestions wanted re: Audi A8
 
Steve, I've never heard about the 4-tires thing on a quattro..... I
know that you're supposed to have tires with the same tread depth (or
within about a 3% variance) on the same axle, but have never heard that
you must replace all 4 at the same time! I'm asking because I recently
tore a chunk out of one rear tire, so I purchased one new tire and put
the (unused) spare on the same axle as the new tire....

Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA



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