Gio

"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Gio" wrote
>> To be realistic: percent-wise...what is the most common way of shifting a
>> gear worldwide? Manual or automatic?
>
> Worldwide I'm not sure, but in the US it's definitely automatic that's in
> majority. Some car models aren't even available with a manual option, not
> even if you pay extra. Most people learn how to drive and pass their
> driving exams without ever learning what a clutch is and without ever
> seeing one. Which is not bad, just different

Hiya Pete....

Yeah, i know "Los Americanos" is born with automatic shifting per se, and
are having BIG problems when they visit europe. But here in europe, most
cars are manuals - but more and more auto-trannys are showing up. But i
think the reason for the manual popularity here, is that automatic is WAY
more expensive when you buy your new ride.
Hell....i´m back to manual again, after i sold my A4. And i MISS MY
TipTronic!!! *sigh*

--
H.a.n.d.
Gio

Gio

"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Gio" wrote
>> To be realistic: percent-wise...what is the most common way of shifting a
>> gear worldwide? Manual or automatic?
>
> Worldwide I'm not sure, but in the US it's definitely automatic that's in
> majority. Some car models aren't even available with a manual option, not
> even if you pay extra. Most people learn how to drive and pass their
> driving exams without ever learning what a clutch is and without ever
> seeing one. Which is not bad, just different

Hiya Pete....

Yeah, i know "Los Americanos" is born with automatic shifting per se, and
are having BIG problems when they visit europe. But here in europe, most
cars are manuals - but more and more auto-trannys are showing up. But i
think the reason for the manual popularity here, is that automatic is WAY
more expensive when you buy your new ride.
Hell....i´m back to manual again, after i sold my A4. And i MISS MY
TipTronic!!! *sigh*

--
H.a.n.d.
Gio

Pete

"Gio" wrote
> Yeah, i know "Los Americanos" is born with automatic shifting per se, and
> are having BIG problems when they visit europe. But here in europe, most
> cars are manuals - but more and more auto-trannys are showing up. But i
> think the reason for the manual popularity here, is that automatic is WAY
> more expensive when you buy your new ride.

Yeah, I'm in Europe as well, although I spent a lot of time across the pond,
too. In addition to initial cost, I think other reasons are higher fuel
consumption (at least with traditional automatics, not stuff like
multitronic/CVT), and being afraid of higher repair costs should anything go
wrong - whether that's true, I don't know.


> Hell....i´m back to manual again, after i sold my A4. And i MISS MY
> TipTronic!!! *sigh*

Heh... after driving manual all my life, at one point I went out and bought
an Accord V6 auto (that was in the US). Within a year I got so bored of it
and fed up with the way it worked, I quickly sold it and bought a manual A4
1.8Tq. Been having fun with it ever since 2001, now in Europe.

Cheers,

Pete

Pete

"Gio" wrote
> Yeah, i know "Los Americanos" is born with automatic shifting per se, and
> are having BIG problems when they visit europe. But here in europe, most
> cars are manuals - but more and more auto-trannys are showing up. But i
> think the reason for the manual popularity here, is that automatic is WAY
> more expensive when you buy your new ride.

Yeah, I'm in Europe as well, although I spent a lot of time across the pond,
too. In addition to initial cost, I think other reasons are higher fuel
consumption (at least with traditional automatics, not stuff like
multitronic/CVT), and being afraid of higher repair costs should anything go
wrong - whether that's true, I don't know.


> Hell....i´m back to manual again, after i sold my A4. And i MISS MY
> TipTronic!!! *sigh*

Heh... after driving manual all my life, at one point I went out and bought
an Accord V6 auto (that was in the US). Within a year I got so bored of it
and fed up with the way it worked, I quickly sold it and bought a manual A4
1.8Tq. Been having fun with it ever since 2001, now in Europe.

Cheers,

Pete

Pete

"Gio" wrote
> Yeah, i know "Los Americanos" is born with automatic shifting per se, and
> are having BIG problems when they visit europe. But here in europe, most
> cars are manuals - but more and more auto-trannys are showing up. But i
> think the reason for the manual popularity here, is that automatic is WAY
> more expensive when you buy your new ride.

Yeah, I'm in Europe as well, although I spent a lot of time across the pond,
too. In addition to initial cost, I think other reasons are higher fuel
consumption (at least with traditional automatics, not stuff like
multitronic/CVT), and being afraid of higher repair costs should anything go
wrong - whether that's true, I don't know.


> Hell....i´m back to manual again, after i sold my A4. And i MISS MY
> TipTronic!!! *sigh*

Heh... after driving manual all my life, at one point I went out and bought
an Accord V6 auto (that was in the US). Within a year I got so bored of it
and fed up with the way it worked, I quickly sold it and bought a manual A4
1.8Tq. Been having fun with it ever since 2001, now in Europe.

Cheers,

Pete

anon

if you pass your driving test in an automatic here in uk you arn't legally
allowed to drive a manual.
but its pretty rare as the larger percentage of vehicles here are all
manuals.
(who said the brits were lazy..)

"KLS" <xymergy@suds.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:19:47 +0100, "R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote:
>
> >"C.R. Krieger" <warp2_shadow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1107539386.237891.268860@o13g2000cwo.googleg roups.com...
> >>> Try driving away without touching the gas pedal for some time until
> >> you get
> >>> the hang of it.
> >>
> >> That will usually involve significant slippage.
> >
> >Not much, any car will roll when just releasing the clutch without using
the
> >throttle.
> >It's meant to get the feel of it.
>
> This is how shifting gears is taught in motorcycle safety courses, and
> very effectively, too.

anon

if you pass your driving test in an automatic here in uk you arn't legally
allowed to drive a manual.
but its pretty rare as the larger percentage of vehicles here are all
manuals.
(who said the brits were lazy..)

"KLS" <xymergy@suds.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:19:47 +0100, "R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote:
>
> >"C.R. Krieger" <warp2_shadow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1107539386.237891.268860@o13g2000cwo.googleg roups.com...
> >>> Try driving away without touching the gas pedal for some time until
> >> you get
> >>> the hang of it.
> >>
> >> That will usually involve significant slippage.
> >
> >Not much, any car will roll when just releasing the clutch without using
the
> >throttle.
> >It's meant to get the feel of it.
>
> This is how shifting gears is taught in motorcycle safety courses, and
> very effectively, too.

anon

if you pass your driving test in an automatic here in uk you arn't legally
allowed to drive a manual.
but its pretty rare as the larger percentage of vehicles here are all
manuals.
(who said the brits were lazy..)

"KLS" <xymergy@suds.com> wrote in message
news:ma3801pg6ba0oshv8gn1m9ao7fah7gk8q6@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:19:47 +0100, "R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote:
>
> >"C.R. Krieger" <warp2_shadow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1107539386.237891.268860@o13g2000cwo.googleg roups.com...
> >>> Try driving away without touching the gas pedal for some time until
> >> you get
> >>> the hang of it.
> >>
> >> That will usually involve significant slippage.
> >
> >Not much, any car will roll when just releasing the clutch without using
the
> >throttle.
> >It's meant to get the feel of it.
>
> This is how shifting gears is taught in motorcycle safety courses, and
> very effectively, too.

C.R. Krieger

Gio wrote:
>
> Sorry...but am i the only one inhere which grew up using manual
tran´s?

> I thought manual transmissions were like...you know, THE most common.

Not in the US; not by a long shot.

> And seeing Krieger asking how to use a clutch, is like asking how to
> walk....the most natural thing of all (

Um, reread the thread. I didn't *ask*. I *was asked*.

> To be realistic: percent-wise...what is the most common way of
shifting a
> gear worldwide? Manual or automatic?

In the US, it's unquestionably automatic. Probably 90% or more.

I'd guess (and a guess is all it is) that in most other parts of the
world, it's manual, but in the more developed parts such as Japan and
Europe, I would expect it's drifting toward autoboxes as well as they
get better, more fuel efficient, and people in general get lazier.
--
C.R. Krieger
(Not crashing)

C.R. Krieger

Gio wrote:
>
> Sorry...but am i the only one inhere which grew up using manual
tran´s?

> I thought manual transmissions were like...you know, THE most common.

Not in the US; not by a long shot.

> And seeing Krieger asking how to use a clutch, is like asking how to
> walk....the most natural thing of all (

Um, reread the thread. I didn't *ask*. I *was asked*.

> To be realistic: percent-wise...what is the most common way of
shifting a
> gear worldwide? Manual or automatic?

In the US, it's unquestionably automatic. Probably 90% or more.

I'd guess (and a guess is all it is) that in most other parts of the
world, it's manual, but in the more developed parts such as Japan and
Europe, I would expect it's drifting toward autoboxes as well as they
get better, more fuel efficient, and people in general get lazier.
--
C.R. Krieger
(Not crashing)