Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?
02-16-2004, 12:28 PM
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Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?
"John Opezdol" <chungachanga@howdoesitsoundtoyou.au> wrote in message
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> Is the 4Matic system on WV a rebadged quattro or it's some cheap
ineffective
> addon
> like that found on CRV, RAV4, etc?
>
>
I thought 4matic was the Merc version like VW's 4motion? its a "on demand"
4wd rather than the quattro's perm 4wd
Ron
02-16-2004, 01:16 PM
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Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?
"John Opezdol" <chungachanga@howdoesitsoundtoyou.au> wrote in message
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> Is the 4Matic system on WV a rebadged quattro or it's some cheap
ineffective
> addon
> like that found on CRV, RAV4, etc?
>
Well.. 4Matic is Mercedes, so no, its not rebadged Quattro. And I don't
think it matters whether its in West Virginia or not.
02-18-2004, 08:33 PM
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Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?
"Ron" <ron@ron114.com> wrote in message
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> "John Opezdol" <chungachanga@howdoesitsoundtoyou.au> wrote in message
> news:103222vce3kss45@news.supernews.com...
> > Is the 4Matic system on WV a rebadged quattro or it's some cheap
> ineffective
> > addon
> > like that found on CRV, RAV4, etc?
> >
> >
>
> I thought 4matic was the Merc version like VW's 4motion? its a "on demand"
> 4wd rather than the quattro's perm 4wd
>
Oh, sorry. What I meant was "Is 4Motion a rebadged quattro?"
Thanks.
02-19-2004, 05:56 PM
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Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?
"John Opezdol" <chungachanga@howdoesitsoundtoyou.au> wrote in message news:<103886hndmutq69@news.supernews.com>...
> "Ron" <ron@ron114.com> wrote in message
> news:0Z7Yb.336$bj2.3991704@news-text.cableinet.net...
> >
> > "John Opezdol" <chungachanga@howdoesitsoundtoyou.au> wrote in message
> > news:103222vce3kss45@news.supernews.com...
> > > Is the 4Matic system on WV a rebadged quattro or it's some cheap
> ineffective
> > > addon
> > > like that found on CRV, RAV4, etc?
> >
> > I thought 4matic was the Merc version like VW's 4motion? its a "on demand"
> > 4wd rather than the quattro's perm 4wd
> >
> Oh, sorry. What I meant was "Is 4Motion a rebadged quattro?"
Depends on what you mean by "quattro." 4Motion is what VW calls it's
AWD system on VW-badged autos. The Haldex-based system in the TT
quattro is the same system in the VW R32 (called 4Motion by VW). The
TORSEN system in the A4 quattro is the same system in the current
Passat 4Motion.
Now, let's have fun with syncro! j/k
--
Jonesy
> "Ron" <ron@ron114.com> wrote in message
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> > "John Opezdol" <chungachanga@howdoesitsoundtoyou.au> wrote in message
> > news:103222vce3kss45@news.supernews.com...
> > > Is the 4Matic system on WV a rebadged quattro or it's some cheap
> ineffective
> > > addon
> > > like that found on CRV, RAV4, etc?
> >
> > I thought 4matic was the Merc version like VW's 4motion? its a "on demand"
> > 4wd rather than the quattro's perm 4wd
> >
> Oh, sorry. What I meant was "Is 4Motion a rebadged quattro?"
Depends on what you mean by "quattro." 4Motion is what VW calls it's
AWD system on VW-badged autos. The Haldex-based system in the TT
quattro is the same system in the VW R32 (called 4Motion by VW). The
TORSEN system in the A4 quattro is the same system in the current
Passat 4Motion.
Now, let's have fun with syncro! j/k
--
Jonesy
02-20-2004, 04:31 PM
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Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?
> Depends on what you mean by "quattro." 4Motion is what VW calls it's
> AWD system on VW-badged autos. The Haldex-based system in the TT
> quattro is the same system in the VW R32 (called 4Motion by VW). The
> TORSEN system in the A4 quattro is the same system in the current
> Passat 4Motion.
Torsen system in 5sp and at audis is the same. Correct?
>
> Now, let's have fun with syncro! j/k
What's that?
> AWD system on VW-badged autos. The Haldex-based system in the TT
> quattro is the same system in the VW R32 (called 4Motion by VW). The
> TORSEN system in the A4 quattro is the same system in the current
> Passat 4Motion.
Torsen system in 5sp and at audis is the same. Correct?
>
> Now, let's have fun with syncro! j/k
What's that?
02-20-2004, 10:57 PM
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> > Now, let's have fun with syncro! j/k
>
> What's that?
Syncro was what VW was calling their AWD cars back in the 80's. There
werent too many of them.. I dont even remeber what they offered other
than a VW bus w/ syncro, and a syncro Quantum.
-Adam
02-21-2004, 12:00 PM
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Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?
"John Opezdol" <chungachanga@howdoesitsoundtoyou.au> wrote in message news:<103d2lmp73qtv14@news.supernews.com>...
> > Depends on what you mean by "quattro." 4Motion is what VW calls it's
> > AWD system on VW-badged autos. The Haldex-based system in the TT
> > quattro is the same system in the VW R32 (called 4Motion by VW). The
> > TORSEN system in the A4 quattro is the same system in the current
> > Passat 4Motion.
>
> Torsen system in 5sp and at audis is the same. Correct?
Yes.
> >
> > Now, let's have fun with syncro! j/k
>
> What's that?
VW's AWD labelling from the 1980s. IIRC, it was different from TORSEN
- viscous couplings and such. Somewhere there's a good description,
but I can't remember where. Google's got the answer, if you care
enough to look it up.
--
Jonesy
> > Depends on what you mean by "quattro." 4Motion is what VW calls it's
> > AWD system on VW-badged autos. The Haldex-based system in the TT
> > quattro is the same system in the VW R32 (called 4Motion by VW). The
> > TORSEN system in the A4 quattro is the same system in the current
> > Passat 4Motion.
>
> Torsen system in 5sp and at audis is the same. Correct?
Yes.
> >
> > Now, let's have fun with syncro! j/k
>
> What's that?
VW's AWD labelling from the 1980s. IIRC, it was different from TORSEN
- viscous couplings and such. Somewhere there's a good description,
but I can't remember where. Google's got the answer, if you care
enough to look it up.
--
Jonesy
02-23-2004, 05:14 PM
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Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?
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Mike Smith <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
> John Opezdol wrote:
> >
> > Oh, sorry. What I meant was "Is 4Motion a rebadged quattro?"
>
> If you're talking about the Passat 4Motion, then yes. If you're
> referring to the Golf/Jetta/etc., then no.
Why not? The '4Motion' system in the current Golf is exactly the same
as the 'quattro' in the TT and A3 - that is, it's an electronically
controlled Haldex clutch.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
Mike Smith <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
> John Opezdol wrote:
> >
> > Oh, sorry. What I meant was "Is 4Motion a rebadged quattro?"
>
> If you're talking about the Passat 4Motion, then yes. If you're
> referring to the Golf/Jetta/etc., then no.
Why not? The '4Motion' system in the current Golf is exactly the same
as the 'quattro' in the TT and A3 - that is, it's an electronically
controlled Haldex clutch.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
