Michael Burman

Stephen Clark wrote:
> the Porsche sales manager and the Audi sales manager why anyone would buy
> the A8, and they were speechless! The interior design is far superior to the
> old A6 or A8/S8. Sport seats are included that are very similar to the S8
> sport seats. The CD changer is in the glove compartment rather than the

You're comparing to old A8 in this case? There isn't any S8 with new A8,
at least not yet. Anyway, if I would choose, I would take the new A8, it
just feels a bit more luxorious than A6. New A6 doesn't appeal me that
much, and A8's interiour is in my opinion looks like it has more quality.

Maybe this is the case also, since comparing the prices, A6 is a lot
better value. So if money means something, I'd go for the new A6.

- Yak

Stephen Clark

But the new A8 ( D3 chassis ) is much more expensive.

I was responding to the original question posed by Viper in the subject
line:

"2005 A6 vs. 2002 S8 vs. 2003 A8"

Read the original post by Viper above. We are talking about cars in the same
price range.

Stephen Clark


"Michael Burman" <yak@invalid-iki.fi> wrote in message
news:cchpap$1vso5$1@midnight.cs.hut.fi...
> Stephen Clark wrote:
> > the Porsche sales manager and the Audi sales manager why anyone would
buy
> > the A8, and they were speechless! The interior design is far superior to
the
> > old A6 or A8/S8. Sport seats are included that are very similar to the
S8
> > sport seats. The CD changer is in the glove compartment rather than the
>
> You're comparing to old A8 in this case? There isn't any S8 with new A8,
> at least not yet. Anyway, if I would choose, I would take the new A8, it
> just feels a bit more luxorious than A6. New A6 doesn't appeal me that
> much, and A8's interiour is in my opinion looks like it has more quality.
>
> Maybe this is the case also, since comparing the prices, A6 is a lot
> better value. So if money means something, I'd go for the new A6.
>
> - Yak

Stephen Clark

But the new A8 ( D3 chassis ) is much more expensive.

I was responding to the original question posed by Viper in the subject
line:

"2005 A6 vs. 2002 S8 vs. 2003 A8"

Read the original post by Viper above. We are talking about cars in the same
price range.

Stephen Clark


"Michael Burman" <yak@invalid-iki.fi> wrote in message
news:cchpap$1vso5$1@midnight.cs.hut.fi...
> Stephen Clark wrote:
> > the Porsche sales manager and the Audi sales manager why anyone would
buy
> > the A8, and they were speechless! The interior design is far superior to
the
> > old A6 or A8/S8. Sport seats are included that are very similar to the
S8
> > sport seats. The CD changer is in the glove compartment rather than the
>
> You're comparing to old A8 in this case? There isn't any S8 with new A8,
> at least not yet. Anyway, if I would choose, I would take the new A8, it
> just feels a bit more luxorious than A6. New A6 doesn't appeal me that
> much, and A8's interiour is in my opinion looks like it has more quality.
>
> Maybe this is the case also, since comparing the prices, A6 is a lot
> better value. So if money means something, I'd go for the new A6.
>
> - Yak

Viper

"Stephen Clark" <nospam@spamnot.not> wrote in message
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> I have actually seen a couple of new 2005 A6's while test driving an S8 at
> the dealer. A few reasons a new A6 4.2 might be desirable over the old S8:
>
> 1) Nearly the same horsepower ( 330 vs.. 360 ) and less weight. Also has
> chain driven camshafts rather than timing belts. Eliminates or minimizes
> expensive maintenance.
>
> 2) Vastly improved navigation system, integrated into the MMI in the
center
> dash. A nice 7" color screen, and DVD-based rather than CD-based. The old
S8
> nav system is a PITA to use, and it has no screen at all, just arrows in
the
> auto-check window.
>
> 3) And, of course, less mileage! Longer warranty period ( 4yr/50K miles ).
> The A6 impresses me as a larger, more luxurious, and better equipped car
> than its predecessor, and it even has a larger trunk than the S8. I asked
> the Porsche sales manager and the Audi sales manager why anyone would buy
> the A8, and they were speechless! The interior design is far superior to
the
> old A6 or A8/S8. Sport seats are included that are very similar to the S8
> sport seats. The CD changer is in the glove compartment rather than the
> trunk, and the integrated phone is detachable from the armrest to function
> as a portable cell phone.
>
> Gee! I guess I've sold myself.....


Thanks very much for this feedback. I'm thinking some of the same things,
but not quite all. I'm not crazy about the nose on the new A6, and I don't
think the photos of the interiors are quite as nice as the split
suede/leather on the S8. And the "panache" of a "supercar" won't be there.

However, I also think that 30 hp is offset by lighter weight, and I like the
idea of the new car warranty.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Viper

"Stephen Clark" <nospam@spamnot.not> wrote in message
news:10eohc2p93qu2d@corp.supernews.com...
> I have actually seen a couple of new 2005 A6's while test driving an S8 at
> the dealer. A few reasons a new A6 4.2 might be desirable over the old S8:
>
> 1) Nearly the same horsepower ( 330 vs.. 360 ) and less weight. Also has
> chain driven camshafts rather than timing belts. Eliminates or minimizes
> expensive maintenance.
>
> 2) Vastly improved navigation system, integrated into the MMI in the
center
> dash. A nice 7" color screen, and DVD-based rather than CD-based. The old
S8
> nav system is a PITA to use, and it has no screen at all, just arrows in
the
> auto-check window.
>
> 3) And, of course, less mileage! Longer warranty period ( 4yr/50K miles ).
> The A6 impresses me as a larger, more luxurious, and better equipped car
> than its predecessor, and it even has a larger trunk than the S8. I asked
> the Porsche sales manager and the Audi sales manager why anyone would buy
> the A8, and they were speechless! The interior design is far superior to
the
> old A6 or A8/S8. Sport seats are included that are very similar to the S8
> sport seats. The CD changer is in the glove compartment rather than the
> trunk, and the integrated phone is detachable from the armrest to function
> as a portable cell phone.
>
> Gee! I guess I've sold myself.....


Thanks very much for this feedback. I'm thinking some of the same things,
but not quite all. I'm not crazy about the nose on the new A6, and I don't
think the photos of the interiors are quite as nice as the split
suede/leather on the S8. And the "panache" of a "supercar" won't be there.

However, I also think that 30 hp is offset by lighter weight, and I like the
idea of the new car warranty.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Viper

"Michael Burman" <yak@invalid-iki.fi> wrote in message
news:cchpap$1vso5$1@midnight.cs.hut.fi...
> Stephen Clark wrote:
> > the Porsche sales manager and the Audi sales manager why anyone would
buy
> > the A8, and they were speechless! The interior design is far superior to
the
> > old A6 or A8/S8. Sport seats are included that are very similar to the
S8
> > sport seats. The CD changer is in the glove compartment rather than the
>
> You're comparing to old A8 in this case? There isn't any S8 with new A8,
> at least not yet. Anyway, if I would choose, I would take the new A8, it
> just feels a bit more luxorious than A6. New A6 doesn't appeal me that
> much, and A8's interiour is in my opinion looks like it has more quality.
>
> Maybe this is the case also, since comparing the prices, A6 is a lot
> better value. So if money means something, I'd go for the new A6.
>
> - Yak

The new A8 seems to only come in the long wheel base, which I don't want.
Have that in my S Class, and would like something a bit better handling.

Also, the price for the new A8 is above what I want to spend, which is why I
was comparing the new A6 to a used S8 or used A8.

But thanks for your thoughts.

Viper

"Michael Burman" <yak@invalid-iki.fi> wrote in message
news:cchpap$1vso5$1@midnight.cs.hut.fi...
> Stephen Clark wrote:
> > the Porsche sales manager and the Audi sales manager why anyone would
buy
> > the A8, and they were speechless! The interior design is far superior to
the
> > old A6 or A8/S8. Sport seats are included that are very similar to the
S8
> > sport seats. The CD changer is in the glove compartment rather than the
>
> You're comparing to old A8 in this case? There isn't any S8 with new A8,
> at least not yet. Anyway, if I would choose, I would take the new A8, it
> just feels a bit more luxorious than A6. New A6 doesn't appeal me that
> much, and A8's interiour is in my opinion looks like it has more quality.
>
> Maybe this is the case also, since comparing the prices, A6 is a lot
> better value. So if money means something, I'd go for the new A6.
>
> - Yak

The new A8 seems to only come in the long wheel base, which I don't want.
Have that in my S Class, and would like something a bit better handling.

Also, the price for the new A8 is above what I want to spend, which is why I
was comparing the new A6 to a used S8 or used A8.

But thanks for your thoughts.

Michael Burman

Viper wrote:
> The new A8 seems to only come in the long wheel base, which I don't want.
> Have that in my S Class, and would like something a bit better handling.

mm, there's two versions available, at least here. A8 and A8L. But maybe
it's only in Europe?-)

> Also, the price for the new A8 is above what I want to spend, which is why I
> was comparing the new A6 to a used S8 or used A8.

Ah, I thought 2003 A8 was in this case the new model. Then, go for new A6

- Yak

Michael Burman

Viper wrote:
> The new A8 seems to only come in the long wheel base, which I don't want.
> Have that in my S Class, and would like something a bit better handling.

mm, there's two versions available, at least here. A8 and A8L. But maybe
it's only in Europe?-)

> Also, the price for the new A8 is above what I want to spend, which is why I
> was comparing the new A6 to a used S8 or used A8.

Ah, I thought 2003 A8 was in this case the new model. Then, go for new A6

- Yak

Mike Smith

Michael Burman wrote:

> Viper wrote:
>
>> The new A8 seems to only come in the long wheel base, which I don't want.
>> Have that in my S Class, and would like something a bit better handling.
>
>
> mm, there's two versions available, at least here. A8 and A8L. But maybe
> it's only in Europe?-)

In the US, only the A8L is offered.

--
Mike Smith