2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
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Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
"Lez Pawl" <Lez@Pawlbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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> "Demon Slayer" <demonslayerNoSPAM_33174@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> The transmission fluid was inadvertently drained instead of the oil
>> during an oil change. The car, which has only 37000 miles, was taken by
>> flat bed truck to a VW dealer to have the fluid replaced per
>> manufacturers specs. When picked-up the transmission was shifting a bit
>> rough and within a week started banging into 1st gear and occasionally
>> slipping into neutral at stops. I think the tech let too much fluid
>> escape when replacing the transmission plug and the level is too low.
>>
>> The dealer blames an "obstruction" that has magically appeared and wants
>> to change the filter screen and gasket (for only $690)! Also stated that
>> the fluid was black (instead of red) to further push the obstruction
>> issue.
>>
>> I believe they're trying to rip me off! Comments?
>
> what IS the recommended change out mileage for auto box fluid.
>
> my 2.4 has covered 75k and I cannot recall it ever being changed.
>
> Only last week I was discussing this topic at work, expressing my concerns
> that "its running great" now but what if I get it replaced and it goes
> TU...............
>
> dj
>
further to,
the service schedule states,
Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
speed auto'..............which is what I have.
so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
fluid.
Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
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Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
>
>further to,
>
>the service schedule states,
>
>Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
>speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
>so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
>fluid.
>
>Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
>
>
Yes, Audi says "lifetime fluid" .... but, there version of lifetime is
"as long as the transmission lasts".
I did a drain/fill on my tiptronic with Pentosin at 72,000 miles ....
currently at 90,000 and running great.
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Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
>
>further to,
>
>the service schedule states,
>
>Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
>speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
>so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
>fluid.
>
>Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
>
>
Yes, Audi says "lifetime fluid" .... but, there version of lifetime is
"as long as the transmission lasts".
I did a drain/fill on my tiptronic with Pentosin at 72,000 miles ....
currently at 90,000 and running great.
#24
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Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
>
>further to,
>
>the service schedule states,
>
>Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
>speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
>so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
>fluid.
>
>Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
>
>
Yes, Audi says "lifetime fluid" .... but, there version of lifetime is
"as long as the transmission lasts".
I did a drain/fill on my tiptronic with Pentosin at 72,000 miles ....
currently at 90,000 and running great.
#25
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Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
>
>further to,
>
>the service schedule states,
>
>Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
>speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
>so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
>fluid.
>
>Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
>
>
Yes, Audi says "lifetime fluid" .... but, there version of lifetime is
"as long as the transmission lasts".
I did a drain/fill on my tiptronic with Pentosin at 72,000 miles ....
currently at 90,000 and running great.
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Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
I agree......have that quick oil change place pay!!!
Read here about the changing of the ATF and look at the dirty picture (of
the fluid) <g>
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
snip
>>
>> what IS the recommended change out mileage for auto box fluid.
>>
>> my 2.4 has covered 75k and I cannot recall it ever being changed.
snip
> further to,
>
> the service schedule states,
>
> Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
> speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
> so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
> fluid.
>
> Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
Read here about the changing of the ATF and look at the dirty picture (of
the fluid) <g>
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
snip
>>
>> what IS the recommended change out mileage for auto box fluid.
>>
>> my 2.4 has covered 75k and I cannot recall it ever being changed.
snip
> further to,
>
> the service schedule states,
>
> Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
> speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
> so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
> fluid.
>
> Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
#27
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Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
I agree......have that quick oil change place pay!!!
Read here about the changing of the ATF and look at the dirty picture (of
the fluid) <g>
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
snip
>>
>> what IS the recommended change out mileage for auto box fluid.
>>
>> my 2.4 has covered 75k and I cannot recall it ever being changed.
snip
> further to,
>
> the service schedule states,
>
> Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
> speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
> so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
> fluid.
>
> Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
Read here about the changing of the ATF and look at the dirty picture (of
the fluid) <g>
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
snip
>>
>> what IS the recommended change out mileage for auto box fluid.
>>
>> my 2.4 has covered 75k and I cannot recall it ever being changed.
snip
> further to,
>
> the service schedule states,
>
> Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
> speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
> so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
> fluid.
>
> Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
#28
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Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
I agree......have that quick oil change place pay!!!
Read here about the changing of the ATF and look at the dirty picture (of
the fluid) <g>
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
snip
>>
>> what IS the recommended change out mileage for auto box fluid.
>>
>> my 2.4 has covered 75k and I cannot recall it ever being changed.
snip
> further to,
>
> the service schedule states,
>
> Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
> speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
> so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
> fluid.
>
> Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
Read here about the changing of the ATF and look at the dirty picture (of
the fluid) <g>
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
snip
>>
>> what IS the recommended change out mileage for auto box fluid.
>>
>> my 2.4 has covered 75k and I cannot recall it ever being changed.
snip
> further to,
>
> the service schedule states,
>
> Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
> speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
> so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
> fluid.
>
> Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
I agree......have that quick oil change place pay!!!
Read here about the changing of the ATF and look at the dirty picture (of
the fluid) <g>
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
snip
>>
>> what IS the recommended change out mileage for auto box fluid.
>>
>> my 2.4 has covered 75k and I cannot recall it ever being changed.
snip
> further to,
>
> the service schedule states,
>
> Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
> speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
> so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
> fluid.
>
> Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
Read here about the changing of the ATF and look at the dirty picture (of
the fluid) <g>
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
snip
>>
>> what IS the recommended change out mileage for auto box fluid.
>>
>> my 2.4 has covered 75k and I cannot recall it ever being changed.
snip
> further to,
>
> the service schedule states,
>
> Every 40K miles or 4 years but goes on to state 'except on models with 5
> speed auto'..............which is what I have.
>
> so looking through the schedule, nowhere can I see when to change this
> fluid.
>
> Perhaps it just does not need changing...............
#30
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Re: 2.8 A4 Transmission Fluid Drained by Mistake
On Mar 9, 2:51 pm, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On 9 Mar 2007 10:01:48 -0800, "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschem...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Mar 9, 9:42 am, Demon Slayer <demonslayerNoSPAM_33...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> The transmission fluid was inadvertently drained instead of the oil
> >> during an oil change. The car, which has only 37000 miles, was taken by
> >> flat bed truck to a VW dealer to have the fluid replaced per
> >> manufacturers specs. When picked-up the transmission was shifting a bit
> >> rough and within a week started banging into 1st gear and occasionally
> >> slipping into neutral at stops. I think the tech let too much fluid
> >> escape when replacing the transmission plug and the level is too low.
>
> >> The dealer blames an "obstruction" that has magically appeared and wants
> >> to change the filter screen and gasket (for only $690)! Also stated that
> >> the fluid was black (instead of red) to further push the obstruction issue.
>
> >> I believe they're trying to rip me off! Comments?
>
> >1.) Never take your car to a quicky-lube place.
> >2.) Never take your car to be repair by a dealer unless it's for
> >warranty/recall work.
> >3.) Automatic transmissions are evil.
>
> >Now, seriously - take the car to an independent. Have it towed if
> >necessary. Never darken the doors of that dealer again.
>
> >E.P.
>
> Regardless of (one's dislike for) dealers, the person who drained the
> transmission should be paying for the repair, not the OP! Put the
> screws to the responsible party and let them pay all.
I didn't say anything about who should pay. Or who was responsible
for the failure.
I said to get it away from the dealer.
> BTW, if the fluid is black, then it is burned, and that indicates that
> the transmission is slipping big time. I hate to say it, but I suspect
> you are looking at a rebuild on it.
I doubt that'll be good enough. Unless you replace the whole guts.
> As to 'obstruction'... HUH? Not even remotely possible. Now, if the
> fluid was grossly low you can do this type of damage, so your thought
> that the dealer didn't properly refill it could be a factor in the
> current problems.
Right - yet another reason to get it away from the dealer. If the
dealer can't figure out something this simple, then having them open
it up and replace stuff to the tune of $700 seems kinda stupid.
Here's what's going to happen: the dealer will blame the quicky
lube. The quicky lube will blame the dealer. Not enough evidence for
any kind of case, even in small-claims court to get either one of
them.
The OP owns this one, and is gonna eat $4k in tranny repairs.
Anyone want to take bets?
E.P.
> On 9 Mar 2007 10:01:48 -0800, "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschem...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Mar 9, 9:42 am, Demon Slayer <demonslayerNoSPAM_33...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> The transmission fluid was inadvertently drained instead of the oil
> >> during an oil change. The car, which has only 37000 miles, was taken by
> >> flat bed truck to a VW dealer to have the fluid replaced per
> >> manufacturers specs. When picked-up the transmission was shifting a bit
> >> rough and within a week started banging into 1st gear and occasionally
> >> slipping into neutral at stops. I think the tech let too much fluid
> >> escape when replacing the transmission plug and the level is too low.
>
> >> The dealer blames an "obstruction" that has magically appeared and wants
> >> to change the filter screen and gasket (for only $690)! Also stated that
> >> the fluid was black (instead of red) to further push the obstruction issue.
>
> >> I believe they're trying to rip me off! Comments?
>
> >1.) Never take your car to a quicky-lube place.
> >2.) Never take your car to be repair by a dealer unless it's for
> >warranty/recall work.
> >3.) Automatic transmissions are evil.
>
> >Now, seriously - take the car to an independent. Have it towed if
> >necessary. Never darken the doors of that dealer again.
>
> >E.P.
>
> Regardless of (one's dislike for) dealers, the person who drained the
> transmission should be paying for the repair, not the OP! Put the
> screws to the responsible party and let them pay all.
I didn't say anything about who should pay. Or who was responsible
for the failure.
I said to get it away from the dealer.
> BTW, if the fluid is black, then it is burned, and that indicates that
> the transmission is slipping big time. I hate to say it, but I suspect
> you are looking at a rebuild on it.
I doubt that'll be good enough. Unless you replace the whole guts.
> As to 'obstruction'... HUH? Not even remotely possible. Now, if the
> fluid was grossly low you can do this type of damage, so your thought
> that the dealer didn't properly refill it could be a factor in the
> current problems.
Right - yet another reason to get it away from the dealer. If the
dealer can't figure out something this simple, then having them open
it up and replace stuff to the tune of $700 seems kinda stupid.
Here's what's going to happen: the dealer will blame the quicky
lube. The quicky lube will blame the dealer. Not enough evidence for
any kind of case, even in small-claims court to get either one of
them.
The OP owns this one, and is gonna eat $4k in tranny repairs.
Anyone want to take bets?
E.P.