2013 a4 vs 2012 a4
 

HI ALL ~ I'm new to this forum and I'm deciding to buy the 2012 a4 or the 2013 a4.

I would be purchasing it in 6-speed manual.

I believe the 2013 a4 is coming out at summer 2012 toronto?

I would love to hear some advice...

PS (the 1.9% rates that just started for March 2012 is pretty nice but not sure what the rates would be for the 2013 a4)

THANKS SO MUCH!

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I debated with the same question for a while too.
Just picked up my 2012 last week. I couldn't wait:) Plus I was told there was a posibility that there would be no SLine offered with the facelift and I definatley wanted an SLine. Not sure if this is 100% but it was mentioned. I like the new look of the A6's but not a fan of the front end on the new A4. Looks a little squished and less beefy. But that's just my opinion.

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i went with the 2012 as well. opportunity came up at the dealership to trade in and a fair price on it too so i jumped on the 2012.

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I just went ahead with the 2012 a4 in white. I wasn't a big fan of the 2013 led lights and im pretty sure the 2013 a4 wont have as low of an interest rate as the 2012 one they're currently offering when it comes out.

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just signed today for a black/black A4 6spd MT (picking up thursday at downtown audi). Interest rate is 1.9%, got the maintenance, etc. Pretty basic quattro with just LED lights, just over $600 pm taxes in. Interest rate on the 2013 will probably still be reasonable, but even if it's 1% higher it would add ~ $1500-$2500 (plus or minus) to cost of car.

I was a BMW guy for about 10 years, a nissan old fart for 3 years, and now im into the Audi for what it was costing me for my Nissan (insurance is $90 more per year).

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FYI, just came across the 2013 order guide.

Changes:
- Premium now comes with Navigation, Advanced Key, Colour DIS standard with no increase in price compared to 2012 (comes with new 18" 5 twin spoke wheel)
- Premium+ comes with Parking System, B&O standard with no change in price
- S-Line offered as a 3400 upgrade for Premium and Premium+, no change in content compared to 2012

Pretty good deal if you ask me!

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interest rate for 2013 A4 is 4.9% finance for 60 months and 5.4 % leasing for 48 months.
All dealers have limited 2012 inventory.

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Glad to see others had similar opinion to me!
Picked up mine last week - White 2012 A4 6-speed Quattro.

Don't like the look of the 2013 front end - small step back in my opinion!
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Should note that I have been holding on for the redesigned A3 - new exterior looks good but without the manual quattro version coming to NA, it was no longer an option for me.

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Let's not forget 2013 front and rear lights are changing and 2013 is getting Google maps and hot spot and few minor interior mods. That's the only diff.

Google maps not compatible in Canada.

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I just did the same thing. I also prefer the 2012 lights.

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Hi, new member here. I just ordered my 2103 A4. I wasn't sure about the lights until I went to the dealer and saw it in person. I do like them!

I had originally planned on getting the 2012, but when I looked at the package I wanted, premium plus with the nav, rear camera etc, it was cheaper to get the 2013. I was able to negotiate a better deal on the 13 since they were shipping it right in. The financing rate wasn't as good, but when I factored in the better discount and not having to pay more for the extras that I had planned, I came out ahead.

warcity, does the Canadian model come with the Google Map feature too? that would be great. The dealer didn't mention that to me.

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I'm 99% sure they do.. I was in the same situation as you, I had my exact 2012 s4 chosen but none of the dealers around had exactly what I was looking for. I also didn't want to compromise on a $65,000 vehicle.

The financing rates on the 2012's were being offered at 0.9% which is awesome, but since Navigation, B&O were included with the 2013's it was on par.

There is a recent post on Audizine showing some facelift B8's from Europe. They look much better than the stock Audi photos, and terrible computer renderings.

Enjoy your new vehicle!!

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Yes all Audi models next year will get Google maps. Same as what's already in the A6, A7 and A8. No more navigation map updates. Very smart move by Audi.

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I saw an A4 2013 with the new LED lights on the road (for the first time) and I don't like it. It doesn't have the uniqueness that the A6 or A7 or A8 have. I don't like the rear lights either.

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seems the dealers everywhere have a glut of 2012 allotments that they want rid of. Great negotiating opportunity.

The facelift is nice looking but if a cosmetic difference is the only change (really) I don't know. You have to remember that getting a deal on the buy of the 2012 will be offset by a larger than normal value gap between the 2012 to 2013 when you go to resell it. People will want the newer 'model' in most cases, even if it's just cosmetic.

Here's a photo comparison I did at Oakville Audi last week while waiting for my car

Here's a facelifted A4 at my local dealer next to a 2009-2012 version...both are the 'base' model I believe. The facelifted car looks quite excellent in comparison. Can't wait to see an S-line/S4. I think it's a great improvement to the bum of the sedan whose lights didn't help the tapered bum and made it look a little droopy on the original B8. The front of the original was fantastic, so I don't think the new one is an improvement per se...it's equally excellent though.

https://www.audiforum.ca/attachment....ine=1337712138

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Here's a B8 S4 in POCCNA facelifted. Front looks funny in the photos. Shooting down at a car almost always makes it look shitty.


http://forums.audiworld.com/attachme...1&d=1337308218

http://forums.audiworld.com/attachme...1&d=1337308225

http://forums.audiworld.com/attachme...1&d=1337308248


http://forums.audiworld.com/attachme...1&d=1337308318

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It's amazing how minor the change is. Every company fiddles with lights during a mid cycle refresh. You make a great point but in a couple of years the redesign is coming so both these face lifts will be outdated anyway.

I don't like the new rear lights at all. Not sure why.

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About the Google Maps, I assume it uses the "Audi Connect". I looked that up and saw that it stated it wasn’t available in Canada and Mexico.
(from the audiusa site)

This information may be based on the 2012 model, so I could still (happily) be wrong.

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Few months back I was fiddling with an A7 and the maps were working. I might be wrong but I think Audi Connect is required for updates and traffic info. Basic map "should" work. Again, I might be wrong.

I know that Canadian Carriers don't yet support wifi hot spot. Again this may have recently changed.

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The 13 will have alot more value... S-Line still available.. Nav and push button start are standard features on the base premium... More value on the 13 for sure..


Just a heads up.

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Nav and push button in the base premium is good but this will probably increase the base premium price forcing you to pay for a Nav. Rather then giving you an option should you not choose the Nav (you don't pay for it if you don't want it). I am a big fan of packages this gives you choices.

Push button is nice though to have in the base package.

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Prices for 2013 S4's did not increase over 2012's.

Premium models for 2013 essentially get 19" wheels/tires, Navigation with backup camera, Advanced Key, + B&O For free. This is why I waited for a 2013.

The only disadvantage is that you won't get the killer financing rates that 2012 models have. With the extras it works out to be about the same.


EDIT: I've been reading so many threads lately that I've lost myself. I can't confirm the pricing for the new A4's. Sorry for piping in.

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That's impressive. That's almost 5K in upgrades.

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The Premium includes the Nav and push button start.

The Premium Plus includes the additional Parking system, home link, side assist, adaptive headlights, and the B&O system.

Both packages remain the same price but now include the extras that were previously additional charge.

I ordered the Premium Plus model. I had originally budgeted the Premium Plus with the parking system and the B&O system, so this is now saving me a few thousand dollars.

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You are right. The S model's do not have an additional "plus" on the premium versions. It all all included on the premium model.

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All dealers currently have one "Premium" Trim 2013 A4 for use as a demo (as seen in sakimano's comparison, the 2013 is actually a Premium in that pic), until the rest get released from the Port of Halifax, where the first batch is currently. Yes, the 2013's are on Canadian soil. Official word on release is mid June 2013, but we are hoping it will be sooner because all dealers, from my sources, are running out or in our situation have run out of 2012 A4 stock. I have one remaining 2012 Ibis White Avant, that's it.

I delivered our store's last 2012 A4 two weeks ago! Pricing does not change for 2013, so at all trim levels the vehicle will be great bang for your buck.

Standard Option Upgrades from 2012:

2013 A4 Quattro:
Bi-Xenon Headlights with LED's front and back

2013 A4 Quattro Premium:
Nav (no camera, no sensors) and Advanced Key (Push button, etc.)

2013 A4 Quattro Premium +:
Nav with Camera and sensors, B&O Sound

No matter which way you slice it, 2013 is better value. Yes, currently interest rates are higher (4.9% Finance up to 60 months or 5.4% lease 37-48 months), but wait until tomorrow as the rates do change from month to month. Considering no one (99.9% sure) has yet taken delivery of a 2013, current rates are nothing to get flustered about.

PM me with your email if you need further 2013 info.

Cheers

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Was there any update to the financing of the 2013 A4?

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No change to the financing for 2013 A4 in June.

The 2013 A4's were released from Port three days ago, I was away at a quattro Cup qualifier for Owasco Audi, sorry for the delay. I have 2013 A4's landing at my doorstop as I type!

Cheers

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Any differences between the '12 & '13 Nav system?

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^^ Do a bit of research. They are completely different.

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better deal on the 2012

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I'd love to do a bit of research (as I already have), but there is no information pertaining specifically to Canadian cars, except that Canada doesn't have Audi Connect...

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Hello Paul
Thanks for the nice detail. Any updates on MY13 Allroad?
Cheers
Ed

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welcome to this forum. I am also going to A4 great car..:lol:

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Thanks
I have a Allroad premium Plus on order, August delivery.
Have a good day

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Ref the new nav system on the 2013. Since Google provides the maps, does this mean you need to subscribe to a mobile data plan to support the Audi Connect Nav functions? Wanting to know how one gets updates moving forward.

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Confirmed with my Audi rep, Canadian cars will not have Audi Connect anytime soon.

Deseronto, my first A4 Allroad was in the same boat as the first 2013 A4. Each dealer has had one of those as well, I am told. Also Premium trim. The rest should start dropping very soon, my first saleable unit is due to drop any day! Exciting!

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How did you order yours, if I may ask?

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welcome to this audiforum. ;):D

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I have an A4 base on order but thinking of upgrading to a premium.
I imagine Nav package is useful once in awhile, but I rarely use my iphone for directions, and when I do it works pretty well. Does Nav include any other features? If you have it on a 2012, do you find it useful?

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Got my 2012 A4 Avant a month ago with 1.9% and some additional discount for under $600/ month. I can live without the new features (advance key, nav, etc) and I know the 2013 would be over my budget anyway with a higher interest rate. It's my first car so I'm just happy to have it. So far the car and the customer service at downtown Audi in Toronto has been superb. If the new features are important to you and you can afford it, then go for it. If you're at the top of your budget, then the 2012 is still an awesome car. You'll be happy!