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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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All need to do is mix Propane with Nitric Acid... its a homemade jobby... lol

Oh wait, it says at 350-450C... Wonder what happens if you mess that up?

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Nitromethane is produced industrially by treating propane with nitric acid at 350–450 °C. This exothermic reaction produces the four industrially significant nitroalkanes: nitromethane, nitroethane, 1-nitropropane, and 2-nitropropane. The reaction involves free radicals, including the alkoxyl radicals of the type CH3CH2CH2O., which arise via homolysis of the corresponding nitrite ester. These alkoxy radicals are susceptible to C-C fragmentation reactions, which explains the formation of a mixture of products.[1]

Although inexpensively available, nitromethane can be prepared in other methods that are of instructional value. The reaction of sodium chloroacetate with sodium nitrite in aqueous solution produces this compound:[2]

ClCH2COONa + NaNO2 + H2O → CH3NO2 + NaCl + NaHCO3

Something interesting on its burning properties...

14.7 lbs. of air is required to burn 1 pound of gasoline, but only 1.7 lb. of air for 1 lb. of nitromethane. Since an engine’s cylinder can only contain a limited amount of air on each stroke, 8.7 times more nitromethane than gasoline can be burned in one stroke. Nitromethane, however, has a lower energy density: Gasoline provides about 42–44 MJ/kg whereas nitromethane provides only 11.3 MJ/kg. This analysis indicates that nitromethane generates about 2.3 times the power of gasoline when combined with a given amount of oxygen.

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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Holy Macro!

I was able to get a 30% Nitro. The car moves as a small jet plane. Some other driver recognize the movement right away and they come close to race. I had one BMW 500 grade today.

The cars in the mirror dissapear quickly, but new ones come from the front so this is the thing to watch.

For anybody interested I got it from PMS HobbyCRaft on 32 Ave and 19 st NE.
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Originally Posted by voodooca
All need to do is mix Propane with Nitric Acid... its a homemade jobby... lol

Oh wait, it says at 350-450C... Wonder what happens if you mess that up?

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Nitromethane is produced industrially by treating propane with nitric acid at 350–450 °C. This exothermic reaction produces the four industrially significant nitroalkanes: nitromethane, nitroethane, 1-nitropropane, and 2-nitropropane. The reaction involves free radicals, including the alkoxyl radicals of the type CH3CH2CH2O., which arise via homolysis of the corresponding nitrite ester. These alkoxy radicals are susceptible to C-C fragmentation reactions, which explains the formation of a mixture of products.[1]

Although inexpensively available, nitromethane can be prepared in other methods that are of instructional value. The reaction of sodium chloroacetate with sodium nitrite in aqueous solution produces this compound:[2]

ClCH2COONa + NaNO2 + H2O → CH3NO2 + NaCl + NaHCO3

Something interesting on its burning properties...

14.7 lbs. of air is required to burn 1 pound of gasoline, but only 1.7 lb. of air for 1 lb. of nitromethane. Since an engine’s cylinder can only contain a limited amount of air on each stroke, 8.7 times more nitromethane than gasoline can be burned in one stroke. Nitromethane, however, has a lower energy density: Gasoline provides about 42–44 MJ/kg whereas nitromethane provides only 11.3 MJ/kg. This analysis indicates that nitromethane generates about 2.3 times the power of gasoline when combined with a given amount of oxygen.
if anyone is planning to attempt this ^^^, please be CAREFUL!!!! nitromethane is very explosive, so you will be playing with your life! nitromethane is more explosive than dynamite.
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if anyone is planning to attempt this ^^^, please be CAREFUL!!!! nitromethane is very explosive, so you will be playing with your life! nitromethane is more explosive than dynamite.
Now you are telling me?
I bought a gallon of this stuff and poured half of it to the tank, so I have 2 liters of it in the shack on my backyard. How should it be stored?

The guy at the hobby store keeps it on the shelf for everybody to touch.
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Originally Posted by voodooca
All need to do is mix Propane with Nitric Acid... its a homemade jobby... lol

Oh wait, it says at 350-450C... Wonder what happens if you mess that up?

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Nitromethane is produced industrially by treating propane with nitric acid at 350–450 °C. This exothermic reaction produces the four industrially significant nitroalkanes: nitromethane, nitroethane, 1-nitropropane, and 2-nitropropane. The reaction involves free radicals, including the alkoxyl radicals of the type CH3CH2CH2O., which arise via homolysis of the corresponding nitrite ester. These alkoxy radicals are susceptible to C-C fragmentation reactions, which explains the formation of a mixture of products.[1]

Although inexpensively available, nitromethane can be prepared in other methods that are of instructional value. The reaction of sodium chloroacetate with sodium nitrite in aqueous solution produces this compound:[2]

ClCH2COONa + NaNO2 + H2O → CH3NO2 + NaCl + NaHCO3

Something interesting on its burning properties...

14.7 lbs. of air is required to burn 1 pound of gasoline, but only 1.7 lb. of air for 1 lb. of nitromethane. Since an engine’s cylinder can only contain a limited amount of air on each stroke, 8.7 times more nitromethane than gasoline can be burned in one stroke. Nitromethane, however, has a lower energy density: Gasoline provides about 42–44 MJ/kg whereas nitromethane provides only 11.3 MJ/kg. This analysis indicates that nitromethane generates about 2.3 times the power of gasoline when combined with a given amount of oxygen.
All I am interested in is that one half- free oxygen atom. It makes a huge difference on the second gear and up. The car lifts its hood during acceleration.

My Nitro/gas ratio is now at 1/100.
Tomorrow I will go double.
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Originally Posted by adamstasiak
Now you are telling me?
I bought a gallon of this stuff and poured half of it to the tank, so I have 2 liters of it in the shack on my backyard. How should it be stored?

The guy at the hobby store keeps it on the shelf for everybody to touch.
I was referring to the formula for producing pure nitro.... Your hobby store supply is likely premixed with methanol, which stabilizes nitro. If pure nitro
comes in contact with acid, or base, it becomes impact sensitive (ie it could explode on impact with something). Also, if you want that oxygen, run a nitrous injection kit. Nitro will destroy your engine oil.
But hey, it's your car, so rock out with your c*** out.
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Just want to mention that AUDIFORUM.CA does not endorse anything that could potentially cause bodily harm as a result of information posted on this forum.

I personally believe that mixing of chemicals and or fuels should be left up to the professionals at the race track. I also suspect that some of these backyard mixtures and addatives could cause premature engine failure for which AUDIFORUM.CA would not be responsible.


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