oil consumption in new 2007 A4 2.0T Quatro
06-22-2007, 03:40 AM
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Re: oil consumption in new 2007 A4 2.0T Quatro
In message <5e0frvF364om7U1@mid.individual.net>, Huw
<hedydd@[nospam].invalid> writes
>It is likely that your engine will continue to improve in performance
>[albeit subtly] and reduce its consumption of oil if you continue or
>increasingly give it some hard work. Once it stabilises it will probably
>last for a few hundred thousand miles before noticeable wear. I have a
>friend who exceeded 200,000 miles in his Allroad with oil changes every
>20,000 hard miles in just over three years. Engine was a peach and didn't
>use a drop of oil when he sold it because he was tired driving the same car
>and was in need of a change. I wouldn't run a 20000 mile schedule personally
>and can see why people brainwashed to accept 3000 miles as normal throw up
>their hands in horror. I hit a psychological barrier at 15,000 miles for no
>good reason. I know why VW/Audi have that first 5000 mile service in the USA
>and it is not because it is needed for the engine. Mine has done 10,000
>already and it consumes none of its original oil fill and has never been
>topped up.
I agree entirely with your view and the advice that you gave, but I fear
that you will find yourself at the receiving end of a lot of flaming. It
just so happens that my own experience reflects that of Roscoe; an
initial high use of oil which dropped off dramatically as the miles
increased, and since about 12000 miles it has been negligible.
Reading this group and other forums has made me realise that oil
changing intervals have become almost a matter of religious creed for
many people, especially for many in the USA for some non-obvious reason.
I am not an automobile engineer or a materials scientist so my starting
point has to be to what the manufacturer recommends. If I am to deviate
significantly from their published recommendations (servicing handbook),
then it should be for reasons based upon evidence of bad advice from the
manufacturer, not hearsay.
>Maybe the oil will have almost run out by then and we will be driving
>Flintstone style.
You really do like flirting with danger, don't you?
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Dave N
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<hedydd@[nospam].invalid> writes
>It is likely that your engine will continue to improve in performance
>[albeit subtly] and reduce its consumption of oil if you continue or
>increasingly give it some hard work. Once it stabilises it will probably
>last for a few hundred thousand miles before noticeable wear. I have a
>friend who exceeded 200,000 miles in his Allroad with oil changes every
>20,000 hard miles in just over three years. Engine was a peach and didn't
>use a drop of oil when he sold it because he was tired driving the same car
>and was in need of a change. I wouldn't run a 20000 mile schedule personally
>and can see why people brainwashed to accept 3000 miles as normal throw up
>their hands in horror. I hit a psychological barrier at 15,000 miles for no
>good reason. I know why VW/Audi have that first 5000 mile service in the USA
>and it is not because it is needed for the engine. Mine has done 10,000
>already and it consumes none of its original oil fill and has never been
>topped up.
I agree entirely with your view and the advice that you gave, but I fear
that you will find yourself at the receiving end of a lot of flaming. It
just so happens that my own experience reflects that of Roscoe; an
initial high use of oil which dropped off dramatically as the miles
increased, and since about 12000 miles it has been negligible.
Reading this group and other forums has made me realise that oil
changing intervals have become almost a matter of religious creed for
many people, especially for many in the USA for some non-obvious reason.
I am not an automobile engineer or a materials scientist so my starting
point has to be to what the manufacturer recommends. If I am to deviate
significantly from their published recommendations (servicing handbook),
then it should be for reasons based upon evidence of bad advice from the
manufacturer, not hearsay.
>Maybe the oil will have almost run out by then and we will be driving
>Flintstone style.
You really do like flirting with danger, don't you?
--
Dave N
N.B. Mail to nospam is rejected. Reply-To does work.
06-08-2008, 07:06 PM
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Re: oil consumption in new 2007 A4 2.0T Quatro
As an ASC, I feel compelled to let you in on a little secret.
Here's the issue: (Just don't tell anyone I told you
The late generation 2006 to current models of the 2.0T A3's and A4's have lately been coming back with excessive oil consumption issues. I know what you're talking about.
The common cause for this problem is the Intake Flap Runner being stuck open, which causes oil to leak in and burn off. This is not bad for the enigne, however your oil level will decrease dramatically. Audi has sent out Technical Bulletins regarding this problem. The solution is to replace this part under Warranty if the problem occurs. HOWEVER, this is not a "Recall" or "Campaign Action" as we call it. It's merely a solution to a minor ongoing problem with certain cars. The problem hasn't come up enough for Audi to consider this a Recall. (Like the spoiler addition for downforce on the 1st generation TT's. That was a recall.) That being said, Audi is working on a solution to this problem.
If the problem persists, the next step is to perform an "Oil consumption Test". If your oil light comes on, DO NOT add oil. Go to your dealer and tell them abouthe problem. If your Flap Runner was already replaced, they'll do one of these tests. It's a two part test. The second part occurs in approx 1,000km after you went in the first time with the complaint. Basiaclly, results are compaired from both tests (before & after) and if any acton is needed further from the test, your Dealer will take the appropriate action.[Result may vary with driving habits and vehilce condition, including tuned vehicles.]
Anyway I hope this sheds some light on your problem, and rest assured Audi is working on it for you!
P.S. Audi's "Oil Min" warning and Dip Sticks are constructed and set for an EARLY NOTIFICATION. Meaning, you've got lots of time before it causes damage to your engine. (UNLESS your oil pan is pissing and you're bone dry, but you'd be able to tell if that was the case now wouldn't you?) Anyway, If your oil light comes on, you still got about 4 - 4.5 litres of oil in your car. If your dip stick is at the MIN you got about 3.5 - 4.0 litres of oil in your car. Don't be afraid. But see your Dealer right way!
Here's the issue: (Just don't tell anyone I told you
The late generation 2006 to current models of the 2.0T A3's and A4's have lately been coming back with excessive oil consumption issues. I know what you're talking about.
The common cause for this problem is the Intake Flap Runner being stuck open, which causes oil to leak in and burn off. This is not bad for the enigne, however your oil level will decrease dramatically. Audi has sent out Technical Bulletins regarding this problem. The solution is to replace this part under Warranty if the problem occurs. HOWEVER, this is not a "Recall" or "Campaign Action" as we call it. It's merely a solution to a minor ongoing problem with certain cars. The problem hasn't come up enough for Audi to consider this a Recall. (Like the spoiler addition for downforce on the 1st generation TT's. That was a recall.) That being said, Audi is working on a solution to this problem.
If the problem persists, the next step is to perform an "Oil consumption Test". If your oil light comes on, DO NOT add oil. Go to your dealer and tell them abouthe problem. If your Flap Runner was already replaced, they'll do one of these tests. It's a two part test. The second part occurs in approx 1,000km after you went in the first time with the complaint. Basiaclly, results are compaired from both tests (before & after) and if any acton is needed further from the test, your Dealer will take the appropriate action.[Result may vary with driving habits and vehilce condition, including tuned vehicles.]
Anyway I hope this sheds some light on your problem, and rest assured Audi is working on it for you!
P.S. Audi's "Oil Min" warning and Dip Sticks are constructed and set for an EARLY NOTIFICATION. Meaning, you've got lots of time before it causes damage to your engine. (UNLESS your oil pan is pissing and you're bone dry, but you'd be able to tell if that was the case now wouldn't you?) Anyway, If your oil light comes on, you still got about 4 - 4.5 litres of oil in your car. If your dip stick is at the MIN you got about 3.5 - 4.0 litres of oil in your car. Don't be afraid. But see your Dealer right way!
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