engine light vag 17544 02/02
#31
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Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
That should be a relatively cheap test. They use a device that injects smoke
into one of the vacuum lines. When the see the smoke coming out somewhere they
have found the leak.
chewb40 wrote:
> i took it to the mechanic and they mentioned that they need to smoke it to
> find out where the leak is..hopefully this is not going to cost me a lot of
> money
> "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:c4_Ug.95183$R63.65799@pd7urf1no...
>
>>i agree...thanks for your help and i will let you know what the problem
>>is...
>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:93q8i21lqh4p9ip9hv29hkbb45ov3cgdn6@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:04:39 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:23p8i2ddff8s747neufis27scs5ldeuori@4ax.co m...
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:25:27 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax. com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap
>>>>>>>>one)
>>>>>>>>and the code came up with
>>>>>>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>>>>>>>Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>>>>>>>Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>>>>>>>Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>>>>>>>Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>>>>>>>Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF,
>>>>>>>check
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of
>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>sorry for such a dump question but where the the MAF located. is it
>>>>>>easy
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>replace?
>>>>>
>>>>>Look at this image:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/...r/1p8l_maf.gif
>>>>>
>>>>>The MAF is item 7 in this figure. It is located in the upper air
>>>>>cleaner
>>>>>housing. It shouldn't be physically difficult to remove and replace,
>>>>>but
>>>>>you'll need to run an adaptation cycle on it, which your tool may not
>>>>>be
>>>>>capable of doing...
>>>>>
>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>
>>>>thanks but if i dont have the adaptation tool should i just bring it to a
>>>>mechanic or this is something i can purchase?
>>>
>>>By "tool" I am referring to the diagnostic scan tool. I use VAG-COM, a
>>>mainline dealer uses the official Audi/VW tool (1551, 1552, and others).
>>>These tools are capable of performing adaptation cycles, coding units to
>>>vehicles, clearing DTCs, setting readiness bits, etc, as well as
>>>diagnosing
>>>problems.
>>>
>>>The actual source of this particular problem can very likely be
>>>determined
>>>with proper use of a capable scan tool. I flagged the MAF because they do
>>>fail, more frequently than the other items on the potential list of
>>>indictees.
>>>But I wouldn't simply replace it, because the problem may well not be the
>>>MAF.
>>>
>>>I would let a qualified mainline service department work on this one...
>>>
>>>/daytripper
>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>
>>
>
>
into one of the vacuum lines. When the see the smoke coming out somewhere they
have found the leak.
chewb40 wrote:
> i took it to the mechanic and they mentioned that they need to smoke it to
> find out where the leak is..hopefully this is not going to cost me a lot of
> money
> "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:c4_Ug.95183$R63.65799@pd7urf1no...
>
>>i agree...thanks for your help and i will let you know what the problem
>>is...
>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:93q8i21lqh4p9ip9hv29hkbb45ov3cgdn6@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:04:39 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:23p8i2ddff8s747neufis27scs5ldeuori@4ax.co m...
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:25:27 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax. com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap
>>>>>>>>one)
>>>>>>>>and the code came up with
>>>>>>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>>>>>>>Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>>>>>>>Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>>>>>>>Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>>>>>>>Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>>>>>>>Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF,
>>>>>>>check
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of
>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>sorry for such a dump question but where the the MAF located. is it
>>>>>>easy
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>replace?
>>>>>
>>>>>Look at this image:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/...r/1p8l_maf.gif
>>>>>
>>>>>The MAF is item 7 in this figure. It is located in the upper air
>>>>>cleaner
>>>>>housing. It shouldn't be physically difficult to remove and replace,
>>>>>but
>>>>>you'll need to run an adaptation cycle on it, which your tool may not
>>>>>be
>>>>>capable of doing...
>>>>>
>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>
>>>>thanks but if i dont have the adaptation tool should i just bring it to a
>>>>mechanic or this is something i can purchase?
>>>
>>>By "tool" I am referring to the diagnostic scan tool. I use VAG-COM, a
>>>mainline dealer uses the official Audi/VW tool (1551, 1552, and others).
>>>These tools are capable of performing adaptation cycles, coding units to
>>>vehicles, clearing DTCs, setting readiness bits, etc, as well as
>>>diagnosing
>>>problems.
>>>
>>>The actual source of this particular problem can very likely be
>>>determined
>>>with proper use of a capable scan tool. I flagged the MAF because they do
>>>fail, more frequently than the other items on the potential list of
>>>indictees.
>>>But I wouldn't simply replace it, because the problem may well not be the
>>>MAF.
>>>
>>>I would let a qualified mainline service department work on this one...
>>>
>>>/daytripper
>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>
>>
>
>
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
[top posting in form]
And if they do it according to the Audi manual, they'll have ECU instrumented
when they do it...
/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:16:20 -0500, Tony <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote:
>That should be a relatively cheap test. They use a device that injects smoke
>into one of the vacuum lines. When the see the smoke coming out somewhere they
>have found the leak.
>
>chewb40 wrote:
>> i took it to the mechanic and they mentioned that they need to smoke it to
>> find out where the leak is..hopefully this is not going to cost me a lot of
>> money
>> "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:c4_Ug.95183$R63.65799@pd7urf1no...
>>
>>>i agree...thanks for your help and i will let you know what the problem
>>>is...
>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:93q8i21lqh4p9ip9hv29hkbb45ov3cgdn6@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:04:39 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:23p8i2ddff8s747neufis27scs5ldeuori@4ax.c om...
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:25:27 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap
>>>>>>>>>one)
>>>>>>>>>and the code came up with
>>>>>>>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>>>>>>>>Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>>>>>>>>Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>>>>>>>>Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>>>>>>>>Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>>>>>>>>Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF,
>>>>>>>>check
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of
>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sorry for such a dump question but where the the MAF located. is it
>>>>>>>easy
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>replace?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look at this image:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/...r/1p8l_maf.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The MAF is item 7 in this figure. It is located in the upper air
>>>>>>cleaner
>>>>>>housing. It shouldn't be physically difficult to remove and replace,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>you'll need to run an adaptation cycle on it, which your tool may not
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>capable of doing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks but if i dont have the adaptation tool should i just bring it to a
>>>>>mechanic or this is something i can purchase?
>>>>
>>>>By "tool" I am referring to the diagnostic scan tool. I use VAG-COM, a
>>>>mainline dealer uses the official Audi/VW tool (1551, 1552, and others).
>>>>These tools are capable of performing adaptation cycles, coding units to
>>>>vehicles, clearing DTCs, setting readiness bits, etc, as well as
>>>>diagnosing
>>>>problems.
>>>>
>>>>The actual source of this particular problem can very likely be
>>>>determined
>>>>with proper use of a capable scan tool. I flagged the MAF because they do
>>>>fail, more frequently than the other items on the potential list of
>>>>indictees.
>>>>But I wouldn't simply replace it, because the problem may well not be the
>>>>MAF.
>>>>
>>>>I would let a qualified mainline service department work on this one...
>>>>
>>>>/daytripper
>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
And if they do it according to the Audi manual, they'll have ECU instrumented
when they do it...
/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:16:20 -0500, Tony <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote:
>That should be a relatively cheap test. They use a device that injects smoke
>into one of the vacuum lines. When the see the smoke coming out somewhere they
>have found the leak.
>
>chewb40 wrote:
>> i took it to the mechanic and they mentioned that they need to smoke it to
>> find out where the leak is..hopefully this is not going to cost me a lot of
>> money
>> "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:c4_Ug.95183$R63.65799@pd7urf1no...
>>
>>>i agree...thanks for your help and i will let you know what the problem
>>>is...
>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:93q8i21lqh4p9ip9hv29hkbb45ov3cgdn6@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:04:39 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:23p8i2ddff8s747neufis27scs5ldeuori@4ax.c om...
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:25:27 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap
>>>>>>>>>one)
>>>>>>>>>and the code came up with
>>>>>>>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>>>>>>>>Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>>>>>>>>Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>>>>>>>>Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>>>>>>>>Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>>>>>>>>Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF,
>>>>>>>>check
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of
>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sorry for such a dump question but where the the MAF located. is it
>>>>>>>easy
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>replace?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look at this image:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/...r/1p8l_maf.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The MAF is item 7 in this figure. It is located in the upper air
>>>>>>cleaner
>>>>>>housing. It shouldn't be physically difficult to remove and replace,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>you'll need to run an adaptation cycle on it, which your tool may not
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>capable of doing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks but if i dont have the adaptation tool should i just bring it to a
>>>>>mechanic or this is something i can purchase?
>>>>
>>>>By "tool" I am referring to the diagnostic scan tool. I use VAG-COM, a
>>>>mainline dealer uses the official Audi/VW tool (1551, 1552, and others).
>>>>These tools are capable of performing adaptation cycles, coding units to
>>>>vehicles, clearing DTCs, setting readiness bits, etc, as well as
>>>>diagnosing
>>>>problems.
>>>>
>>>>The actual source of this particular problem can very likely be
>>>>determined
>>>>with proper use of a capable scan tool. I flagged the MAF because they do
>>>>fail, more frequently than the other items on the potential list of
>>>>indictees.
>>>>But I wouldn't simply replace it, because the problem may well not be the
>>>>MAF.
>>>>
>>>>I would let a qualified mainline service department work on this one...
>>>>
>>>>/daytripper
>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
[top posting in form]
And if they do it according to the Audi manual, they'll have ECU instrumented
when they do it...
/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:16:20 -0500, Tony <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote:
>That should be a relatively cheap test. They use a device that injects smoke
>into one of the vacuum lines. When the see the smoke coming out somewhere they
>have found the leak.
>
>chewb40 wrote:
>> i took it to the mechanic and they mentioned that they need to smoke it to
>> find out where the leak is..hopefully this is not going to cost me a lot of
>> money
>> "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:c4_Ug.95183$R63.65799@pd7urf1no...
>>
>>>i agree...thanks for your help and i will let you know what the problem
>>>is...
>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:93q8i21lqh4p9ip9hv29hkbb45ov3cgdn6@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:04:39 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:23p8i2ddff8s747neufis27scs5ldeuori@4ax.c om...
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:25:27 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap
>>>>>>>>>one)
>>>>>>>>>and the code came up with
>>>>>>>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>>>>>>>>Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>>>>>>>>Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>>>>>>>>Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>>>>>>>>Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>>>>>>>>Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF,
>>>>>>>>check
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of
>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sorry for such a dump question but where the the MAF located. is it
>>>>>>>easy
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>replace?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look at this image:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/...r/1p8l_maf.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The MAF is item 7 in this figure. It is located in the upper air
>>>>>>cleaner
>>>>>>housing. It shouldn't be physically difficult to remove and replace,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>you'll need to run an adaptation cycle on it, which your tool may not
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>capable of doing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks but if i dont have the adaptation tool should i just bring it to a
>>>>>mechanic or this is something i can purchase?
>>>>
>>>>By "tool" I am referring to the diagnostic scan tool. I use VAG-COM, a
>>>>mainline dealer uses the official Audi/VW tool (1551, 1552, and others).
>>>>These tools are capable of performing adaptation cycles, coding units to
>>>>vehicles, clearing DTCs, setting readiness bits, etc, as well as
>>>>diagnosing
>>>>problems.
>>>>
>>>>The actual source of this particular problem can very likely be
>>>>determined
>>>>with proper use of a capable scan tool. I flagged the MAF because they do
>>>>fail, more frequently than the other items on the potential list of
>>>>indictees.
>>>>But I wouldn't simply replace it, because the problem may well not be the
>>>>MAF.
>>>>
>>>>I would let a qualified mainline service department work on this one...
>>>>
>>>>/daytripper
>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
And if they do it according to the Audi manual, they'll have ECU instrumented
when they do it...
/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:16:20 -0500, Tony <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote:
>That should be a relatively cheap test. They use a device that injects smoke
>into one of the vacuum lines. When the see the smoke coming out somewhere they
>have found the leak.
>
>chewb40 wrote:
>> i took it to the mechanic and they mentioned that they need to smoke it to
>> find out where the leak is..hopefully this is not going to cost me a lot of
>> money
>> "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:c4_Ug.95183$R63.65799@pd7urf1no...
>>
>>>i agree...thanks for your help and i will let you know what the problem
>>>is...
>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:93q8i21lqh4p9ip9hv29hkbb45ov3cgdn6@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:04:39 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:23p8i2ddff8s747neufis27scs5ldeuori@4ax.c om...
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:25:27 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap
>>>>>>>>>one)
>>>>>>>>>and the code came up with
>>>>>>>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>>>>>>>>Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>>>>>>>>Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>>>>>>>>Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>>>>>>>>Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>>>>>>>>Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF,
>>>>>>>>check
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of
>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sorry for such a dump question but where the the MAF located. is it
>>>>>>>easy
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>replace?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look at this image:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/...r/1p8l_maf.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The MAF is item 7 in this figure. It is located in the upper air
>>>>>>cleaner
>>>>>>housing. It shouldn't be physically difficult to remove and replace,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>you'll need to run an adaptation cycle on it, which your tool may not
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>capable of doing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks but if i dont have the adaptation tool should i just bring it to a
>>>>>mechanic or this is something i can purchase?
>>>>
>>>>By "tool" I am referring to the diagnostic scan tool. I use VAG-COM, a
>>>>mainline dealer uses the official Audi/VW tool (1551, 1552, and others).
>>>>These tools are capable of performing adaptation cycles, coding units to
>>>>vehicles, clearing DTCs, setting readiness bits, etc, as well as
>>>>diagnosing
>>>>problems.
>>>>
>>>>The actual source of this particular problem can very likely be
>>>>determined
>>>>with proper use of a capable scan tool. I flagged the MAF because they do
>>>>fail, more frequently than the other items on the potential list of
>>>>indictees.
>>>>But I wouldn't simply replace it, because the problem may well not be the
>>>>MAF.
>>>>
>>>>I would let a qualified mainline service department work on this one...
>>>>
>>>>/daytripper
>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
[top posting in form]
And if they do it according to the Audi manual, they'll have ECU instrumented
when they do it...
/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:16:20 -0500, Tony <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote:
>That should be a relatively cheap test. They use a device that injects smoke
>into one of the vacuum lines. When the see the smoke coming out somewhere they
>have found the leak.
>
>chewb40 wrote:
>> i took it to the mechanic and they mentioned that they need to smoke it to
>> find out where the leak is..hopefully this is not going to cost me a lot of
>> money
>> "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:c4_Ug.95183$R63.65799@pd7urf1no...
>>
>>>i agree...thanks for your help and i will let you know what the problem
>>>is...
>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:93q8i21lqh4p9ip9hv29hkbb45ov3cgdn6@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:04:39 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:23p8i2ddff8s747neufis27scs5ldeuori@4ax.c om...
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:25:27 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap
>>>>>>>>>one)
>>>>>>>>>and the code came up with
>>>>>>>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>>>>>>>>Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>>>>>>>>Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>>>>>>>>Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>>>>>>>>Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>>>>>>>>Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF,
>>>>>>>>check
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of
>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sorry for such a dump question but where the the MAF located. is it
>>>>>>>easy
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>replace?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look at this image:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/...r/1p8l_maf.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The MAF is item 7 in this figure. It is located in the upper air
>>>>>>cleaner
>>>>>>housing. It shouldn't be physically difficult to remove and replace,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>you'll need to run an adaptation cycle on it, which your tool may not
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>capable of doing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks but if i dont have the adaptation tool should i just bring it to a
>>>>>mechanic or this is something i can purchase?
>>>>
>>>>By "tool" I am referring to the diagnostic scan tool. I use VAG-COM, a
>>>>mainline dealer uses the official Audi/VW tool (1551, 1552, and others).
>>>>These tools are capable of performing adaptation cycles, coding units to
>>>>vehicles, clearing DTCs, setting readiness bits, etc, as well as
>>>>diagnosing
>>>>problems.
>>>>
>>>>The actual source of this particular problem can very likely be
>>>>determined
>>>>with proper use of a capable scan tool. I flagged the MAF because they do
>>>>fail, more frequently than the other items on the potential list of
>>>>indictees.
>>>>But I wouldn't simply replace it, because the problem may well not be the
>>>>MAF.
>>>>
>>>>I would let a qualified mainline service department work on this one...
>>>>
>>>>/daytripper
>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
And if they do it according to the Audi manual, they'll have ECU instrumented
when they do it...
/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:16:20 -0500, Tony <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote:
>That should be a relatively cheap test. They use a device that injects smoke
>into one of the vacuum lines. When the see the smoke coming out somewhere they
>have found the leak.
>
>chewb40 wrote:
>> i took it to the mechanic and they mentioned that they need to smoke it to
>> find out where the leak is..hopefully this is not going to cost me a lot of
>> money
>> "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:c4_Ug.95183$R63.65799@pd7urf1no...
>>
>>>i agree...thanks for your help and i will let you know what the problem
>>>is...
>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:93q8i21lqh4p9ip9hv29hkbb45ov3cgdn6@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:04:39 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:23p8i2ddff8s747neufis27scs5ldeuori@4ax.c om...
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:25:27 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap
>>>>>>>>>one)
>>>>>>>>>and the code came up with
>>>>>>>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>>>>>>>>Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>>>>>>>>Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>>>>>>>>Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>>>>>>>>Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>>>>>>>>Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF,
>>>>>>>>check
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of
>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sorry for such a dump question but where the the MAF located. is it
>>>>>>>easy
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>replace?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look at this image:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/...r/1p8l_maf.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The MAF is item 7 in this figure. It is located in the upper air
>>>>>>cleaner
>>>>>>housing. It shouldn't be physically difficult to remove and replace,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>you'll need to run an adaptation cycle on it, which your tool may not
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>capable of doing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/daytripper
>>>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks but if i dont have the adaptation tool should i just bring it to a
>>>>>mechanic or this is something i can purchase?
>>>>
>>>>By "tool" I am referring to the diagnostic scan tool. I use VAG-COM, a
>>>>mainline dealer uses the official Audi/VW tool (1551, 1552, and others).
>>>>These tools are capable of performing adaptation cycles, coding units to
>>>>vehicles, clearing DTCs, setting readiness bits, etc, as well as
>>>>diagnosing
>>>>problems.
>>>>
>>>>The actual source of this particular problem can very likely be
>>>>determined
>>>>with proper use of a capable scan tool. I flagged the MAF because they do
>>>>fail, more frequently than the other items on the potential list of
>>>>indictees.
>>>>But I wouldn't simply replace it, because the problem may well not be the
>>>>MAF.
>>>>
>>>>I would let a qualified mainline service department work on this one...
>>>>
>>>>/daytripper
>>>>'00 s4 6spd
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
I had a 17544 code and a bad, fluctuating idle.
Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
picture here:
http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
story here:
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and see
if the idle improves.
Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the big
hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have no idea
whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10 seconds for
the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I didn't have an
external vacuum leak.)
--Art
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>and the code came up with
>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>
>
> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>
> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>
> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>
> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
> the
> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>
> Cheers
>
> /daytripper
> '00 s4 6spd
Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
picture here:
http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
story here:
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and see
if the idle improves.
Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the big
hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have no idea
whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10 seconds for
the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I didn't have an
external vacuum leak.)
--Art
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>and the code came up with
>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>
>
> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>
> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>
> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>
> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
> the
> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>
> Cheers
>
> /daytripper
> '00 s4 6spd
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
I had a 17544 code and a bad, fluctuating idle.
Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
picture here:
http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
story here:
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and see
if the idle improves.
Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the big
hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have no idea
whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10 seconds for
the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I didn't have an
external vacuum leak.)
--Art
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>and the code came up with
>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>
>
> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>
> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>
> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>
> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
> the
> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>
> Cheers
>
> /daytripper
> '00 s4 6spd
Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
picture here:
http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
story here:
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and see
if the idle improves.
Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the big
hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have no idea
whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10 seconds for
the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I didn't have an
external vacuum leak.)
--Art
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>and the code came up with
>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>
>
> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>
> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>
> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>
> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
> the
> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>
> Cheers
>
> /daytripper
> '00 s4 6spd
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
I had a 17544 code and a bad, fluctuating idle.
Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
picture here:
http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
story here:
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and see
if the idle improves.
Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the big
hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have no idea
whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10 seconds for
the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I didn't have an
external vacuum leak.)
--Art
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>and the code came up with
>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>
>
> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>
> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>
> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>
> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
> the
> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>
> Cheers
>
> /daytripper
> '00 s4 6spd
Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
picture here:
http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
story here:
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and see
if the idle improves.
Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the big
hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have no idea
whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10 seconds for
the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I didn't have an
external vacuum leak.)
--Art
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>and the code came up with
>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>
>
> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>
> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>
> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>
> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
> the
> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>
> Cheers
>
> /daytripper
> '00 s4 6spd
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
well got the car back and yes there was a leak.
80.00 for the test
80.00 to replace the host and of course + taxes......
just wanted to say thank you everyone
"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:Q7vVg.1863$La2.571@fed1read08...
>I had a 17544 code and a bad, fluctuating idle.
> Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
> It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
> picture here:
> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
> story here:
> http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
>
> Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
> for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
> valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and
> see if the idle improves.
>
> Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the
> big hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have
> no idea whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10
> seconds for the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I
> didn't have an external vacuum leak.)
>
> --Art
>
>
> "daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>>and the code came up with
>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>
>>
>> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>
>> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>
>> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>
>> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
>> the
>> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
>> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /daytripper
>> '00 s4 6spd
>
>
80.00 for the test
80.00 to replace the host and of course + taxes......
just wanted to say thank you everyone
"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:Q7vVg.1863$La2.571@fed1read08...
>I had a 17544 code and a bad, fluctuating idle.
> Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
> It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
> picture here:
> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
> story here:
> http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
>
> Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
> for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
> valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and
> see if the idle improves.
>
> Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the
> big hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have
> no idea whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10
> seconds for the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I
> didn't have an external vacuum leak.)
>
> --Art
>
>
> "daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>>and the code came up with
>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>
>>
>> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>
>> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>
>> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>
>> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
>> the
>> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
>> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /daytripper
>> '00 s4 6spd
>
>
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
well got the car back and yes there was a leak.
80.00 for the test
80.00 to replace the host and of course + taxes......
just wanted to say thank you everyone
"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:Q7vVg.1863$La2.571@fed1read08...
>I had a 17544 code and a bad, fluctuating idle.
> Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
> It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
> picture here:
> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
> story here:
> http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
>
> Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
> for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
> valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and
> see if the idle improves.
>
> Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the
> big hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have
> no idea whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10
> seconds for the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I
> didn't have an external vacuum leak.)
>
> --Art
>
>
> "daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>>and the code came up with
>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>
>>
>> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>
>> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>
>> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>
>> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
>> the
>> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
>> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /daytripper
>> '00 s4 6spd
>
>
80.00 for the test
80.00 to replace the host and of course + taxes......
just wanted to say thank you everyone
"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:Q7vVg.1863$La2.571@fed1read08...
>I had a 17544 code and a bad, fluctuating idle.
> Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
> It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
> picture here:
> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
> story here:
> http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
>
> Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
> for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
> valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and
> see if the idle improves.
>
> Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the
> big hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have
> no idea whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10
> seconds for the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I
> didn't have an external vacuum leak.)
>
> --Art
>
>
> "daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>>and the code came up with
>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>
>>
>> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>
>> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>
>> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>
>> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
>> the
>> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
>> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /daytripper
>> '00 s4 6spd
>
>
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Re: engine light vag 17544 02/02
well got the car back and yes there was a leak.
80.00 for the test
80.00 to replace the host and of course + taxes......
just wanted to say thank you everyone
"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:Q7vVg.1863$La2.571@fed1read08...
>I had a 17544 code and a bad, fluctuating idle.
> Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
> It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
> picture here:
> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
> story here:
> http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
>
> Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
> for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
> valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and
> see if the idle improves.
>
> Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the
> big hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have
> no idea whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10
> seconds for the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I
> didn't have an external vacuum leak.)
>
> --Art
>
>
> "daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>>and the code came up with
>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>
>>
>> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>
>> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>
>> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>
>> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
>> the
>> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
>> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /daytripper
>> '00 s4 6spd
>
>
80.00 for the test
80.00 to replace the host and of course + taxes......
just wanted to say thank you everyone
"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:Q7vVg.1863$La2.571@fed1read08...
>I had a 17544 code and a bad, fluctuating idle.
> Mine was caused by a clogged "PCV" valve due to sludge. $17 part fixed it.
> It was causing an internal leak (crankcase gasses into intake manifold).
> picture here:
> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...inePeripherals
> story here:
> http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/a4...ry/001680.html
>
> Probably not likely to be what's wrong with yours, but an easy way to test
> for this would be to remove the hose (part #10 in that picture) from the
> valve where it connects to the manifold and plug that manifold hole and
> see if the idle improves.
>
> Also to check for vacuum leaks I had read online that you can remove the
> big hose that goes into the air cleaner housing and blow into it. I have
> no idea whether that really works. When I blew into it, it took about 10
> seconds for the pressure equalize (hissing of escaping air to stop). (I
> didn't have an external vacuum leak.)
>
> --Art
>
>
> "daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:g9m8i21rlq5aijgskbo8fn4tafsrau087k@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:46:10 GMT, "chewb40" <afabrig@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>i have a 1999 audi 1.8T the engine light went on. I have a VAG(cheap one)
>>>and the code came up with
>>>17544 02/02 can someone shed some light on what this mean? thanks
>>
>>
>> SAE P1136 VAG 17544 MIL: 2 Dcy
>>
>> Long Term Fuel Trim Add.
>> Fuel, Bank1 System too Lean.
>>
>> Check intake air system for leaks ("false air")
>> Check HO2S -G39- and O2S control
>> Check Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor -G70-
>> Check fuel pressure regulator and residual fuel pressure
>> Check fuel injectors; Output Diagnostic Test Mode (DTM)
>>
>> If you can't find any air leaks, and you're on your original MAF, check
>> the
>> adaptation values for the MAF and look for adaptation outside of allowed
>> range. MAF failures are not uncommon...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /daytripper
>> '00 s4 6spd
>
>
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