Audi a4 97 1.8T owner in Toronto needs help and advice
10-28-2003, 05:41 PM
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Re: Audi a4 97 1.8T owner in Toronto needs help and advice
Ron wrote:
> "Chris Mauritz" <ritz@mordor.net> wrote in message
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>>JPF wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Your service facility may not like your parts.
>>>A bearing lists for $70-ish USD.
>>>You can get them cheaper
>>>Flat rate labor is 1.5 hours
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:51:02 GMT, "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>stingray - do u have any other suggestions? like if there is a cost u
>
> know
>
>>>>of on average for labor? because i was thinking of buying the parts on
>
> the
>
>>>>net.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>If it's a FWD car (non-quattro) it's not that big of a deal to change
>>the bearings. You take the brake caliper off, remove the rotor, punch
>>out the old bearing, pack new bearing with grease, press new bearing
>>races in place, replace bearing and reassemble. It's a bit more of a
>>pain in the *** if it's a quattro.
>>
>>cheers,
>>
>>C
>>
>
>
> Yeah Damn drive shafts
>
> Ron
Yeah, I haven't had the pleasure of changing one on a quattro Audi yet.
However, a few times when I ordered replacement rear rotors for FWD
A4's, the replacement Brembo parts had no races installed so it required
me to get new wheel bearings/races to change the rotors. The new rotors
also didn't come with the ABS ring, so that had to be removed and
pressed onto the new rotors too. fun fun fun....
cheers,
C
> "Chris Mauritz" <ritz@mordor.net> wrote in message
> news:BhBnb.11434$78.2229080@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
>
>>JPF wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Your service facility may not like your parts.
>>>A bearing lists for $70-ish USD.
>>>You can get them cheaper
>>>Flat rate labor is 1.5 hours
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:51:02 GMT, "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>stingray - do u have any other suggestions? like if there is a cost u
>
> know
>
>>>>of on average for labor? because i was thinking of buying the parts on
>
> the
>
>>>>net.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>If it's a FWD car (non-quattro) it's not that big of a deal to change
>>the bearings. You take the brake caliper off, remove the rotor, punch
>>out the old bearing, pack new bearing with grease, press new bearing
>>races in place, replace bearing and reassemble. It's a bit more of a
>>pain in the *** if it's a quattro.
>>
>>cheers,
>>
>>C
>>
>
>
> Yeah Damn drive shafts
>
> Ron
Yeah, I haven't had the pleasure of changing one on a quattro Audi yet.
However, a few times when I ordered replacement rear rotors for FWD
A4's, the replacement Brembo parts had no races installed so it required
me to get new wheel bearings/races to change the rotors. The new rotors
also didn't come with the ABS ring, so that had to be removed and
pressed onto the new rotors too. fun fun fun....
cheers,
C
10-28-2003, 06:00 PM
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Re: Audi a4 97 1.8T owner in Toronto needs help and advice
JPF <frickjp@zzzzzzzzzzzz.net> wrote in message news:<bmdtpv0rp7368ha02970s2tslhv3ll6e1d@4ax.com>. ..
> Your service facility may not like your parts.
> A bearing lists for $70-ish USD.
> You can get them cheaper
> Flat rate labor is 1.5 hours
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:51:02 GMT, "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >stingray - do u have any other suggestions? like if there is a cost u know
> >of on average for labor? because i was thinking of buying the parts on the
> >net.
> >
You are all right on about this. My 97 required a right rear wheel
bearing at 52,000 miles, post warranty. It cost me about $230. I was
actually lucky that the ABS sensor came out (they said) because if
they had damaged the sensor when they removed it, that would have cost
another few hundred to replace. My 2000 had a right rear go at 43,000
miles, under warranty.
My advice is that you have a shop that is experienced with this do the
repair and avoid the possibility of having someone underestimate the
job by overlooking the sensor.
Good luck.
> Your service facility may not like your parts.
> A bearing lists for $70-ish USD.
> You can get them cheaper
> Flat rate labor is 1.5 hours
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:51:02 GMT, "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >stingray - do u have any other suggestions? like if there is a cost u know
> >of on average for labor? because i was thinking of buying the parts on the
> >net.
> >
You are all right on about this. My 97 required a right rear wheel
bearing at 52,000 miles, post warranty. It cost me about $230. I was
actually lucky that the ABS sensor came out (they said) because if
they had damaged the sensor when they removed it, that would have cost
another few hundred to replace. My 2000 had a right rear go at 43,000
miles, under warranty.
My advice is that you have a shop that is experienced with this do the
repair and avoid the possibility of having someone underestimate the
job by overlooking the sensor.
Good luck.
10-28-2003, 11:41 PM
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Re: Audi a4 97 1.8T owner in Toronto needs help and advice
geez guys - the info is really providing to be quite useful. if its only a
couple of hundred its ok i guess. it is a quattro drive car actually. and
yes - it is the rear right side that is making the squealling noise. must be
all the right hand turns we do in NAmerica. whatever. i guess its time to
take it in.
id love to hear from someone in Toronto or GTA cus i dont know if its better
to take it into a dealership or if anyone can do the job seeing as it isnt
covered by my warranty.
cheers
"MGC" <sharpedge0@LYCOS.COM> wrote in message
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> JPF <frickjp@zzzzzzzzzzzz.net> wrote in message
news:<bmdtpv0rp7368ha02970s2tslhv3ll6e1d@4ax.com>. ..
> > Your service facility may not like your parts.
> > A bearing lists for $70-ish USD.
> > You can get them cheaper
> > Flat rate labor is 1.5 hours
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:51:02 GMT, "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >stingray - do u have any other suggestions? like if there is a cost u
know
> > >of on average for labor? because i was thinking of buying the parts on
the
> > >net.
> > >
> You are all right on about this. My 97 required a right rear wheel
> bearing at 52,000 miles, post warranty. It cost me about $230. I was
> actually lucky that the ABS sensor came out (they said) because if
> they had damaged the sensor when they removed it, that would have cost
> another few hundred to replace. My 2000 had a right rear go at 43,000
> miles, under warranty.
> My advice is that you have a shop that is experienced with this do the
> repair and avoid the possibility of having someone underestimate the
> job by overlooking the sensor.
>
> Good luck.
couple of hundred its ok i guess. it is a quattro drive car actually. and
yes - it is the rear right side that is making the squealling noise. must be
all the right hand turns we do in NAmerica. whatever. i guess its time to
take it in.
id love to hear from someone in Toronto or GTA cus i dont know if its better
to take it into a dealership or if anyone can do the job seeing as it isnt
covered by my warranty.
cheers
"MGC" <sharpedge0@LYCOS.COM> wrote in message
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> JPF <frickjp@zzzzzzzzzzzz.net> wrote in message
news:<bmdtpv0rp7368ha02970s2tslhv3ll6e1d@4ax.com>. ..
> > Your service facility may not like your parts.
> > A bearing lists for $70-ish USD.
> > You can get them cheaper
> > Flat rate labor is 1.5 hours
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:51:02 GMT, "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >stingray - do u have any other suggestions? like if there is a cost u
know
> > >of on average for labor? because i was thinking of buying the parts on
the
> > >net.
> > >
> You are all right on about this. My 97 required a right rear wheel
> bearing at 52,000 miles, post warranty. It cost me about $230. I was
> actually lucky that the ABS sensor came out (they said) because if
> they had damaged the sensor when they removed it, that would have cost
> another few hundred to replace. My 2000 had a right rear go at 43,000
> miles, under warranty.
> My advice is that you have a shop that is experienced with this do the
> repair and avoid the possibility of having someone underestimate the
> job by overlooking the sensor.
>
> Good luck.
10-29-2003, 03:15 AM
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Re: Audi a4 97 1.8T owner in Toronto needs help and advice
"Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> geez guys - the info is really providing to be quite useful. if its only a
> couple of hundred its ok i guess. it is a quattro drive car actually. and
> yes - it is the rear right side that is making the squealling noise. must
be
> all the right hand turns we do in NAmerica. whatever. i guess its time to
> take it in.
>
> id love to hear from someone in Toronto or GTA cus i dont know if its
better
> to take it into a dealership or if anyone can do the job seeing as it isnt
> covered by my warranty.
>
>
> cheers
>
>
Any decent garage can do the job, its no different then doin a normal Front
wheel bearing, they can be a bit of bitch to get off, mine had to go away to
be pressed off, but I did drive the car untill the noise was unbearable
When you all say the Rotor's/Discs have ABS rings in them, I dont remember
this on mine, when I replaced the 4 disc's, is it only on some Audi's ?
Ron
Oh and my ABS still works fine, I think lol
10-29-2003, 06:11 AM
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Re: Audi a4 97 1.8T owner in Toronto needs help and advice
Ronny wrote:
> "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9ef27344bdcf644b6d58885fb9e942ee@news.teranew s.com...
>
>>geez guys - the info is really providing to be quite useful. if its only a
>>couple of hundred its ok i guess. it is a quattro drive car actually. and
>>yes - it is the rear right side that is making the squealling noise. must
>
> be
>
>>all the right hand turns we do in NAmerica. whatever. i guess its time to
>>take it in.
>>
>>id love to hear from someone in Toronto or GTA cus i dont know if its
>
> better
>
>>to take it into a dealership or if anyone can do the job seeing as it isnt
>>covered by my warranty.
>>
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>
>
>
> Any decent garage can do the job, its no different then doin a normal Front
> wheel bearing, they can be a bit of bitch to get off, mine had to go away to
> be pressed off, but I did drive the car untill the noise was unbearable
>
> When you all say the Rotor's/Discs have ABS rings in them, I dont remember
> this on mine, when I replaced the 4 disc's, is it only on some Audi's ?
>
> Ron
>
> Oh and my ABS still works fine, I think lol
>
>
There's only an ABS ring in the non-quattro rear rotors. On quattros,
the ABS sensor gets the signal from the hub (the rotor is simply a disc
between the hub and the actual wheel.
Cheers,
C
> "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9ef27344bdcf644b6d58885fb9e942ee@news.teranew s.com...
>
>>geez guys - the info is really providing to be quite useful. if its only a
>>couple of hundred its ok i guess. it is a quattro drive car actually. and
>>yes - it is the rear right side that is making the squealling noise. must
>
> be
>
>>all the right hand turns we do in NAmerica. whatever. i guess its time to
>>take it in.
>>
>>id love to hear from someone in Toronto or GTA cus i dont know if its
>
> better
>
>>to take it into a dealership or if anyone can do the job seeing as it isnt
>>covered by my warranty.
>>
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>
>
>
> Any decent garage can do the job, its no different then doin a normal Front
> wheel bearing, they can be a bit of bitch to get off, mine had to go away to
> be pressed off, but I did drive the car untill the noise was unbearable
>
> When you all say the Rotor's/Discs have ABS rings in them, I dont remember
> this on mine, when I replaced the 4 disc's, is it only on some Audi's ?
>
> Ron
>
> Oh and my ABS still works fine, I think lol
>
>
There's only an ABS ring in the non-quattro rear rotors. On quattros,
the ABS sensor gets the signal from the hub (the rotor is simply a disc
between the hub and the actual wheel.
Cheers,
C
10-29-2003, 06:13 AM
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Re: Audi a4 97 1.8T owner in Toronto needs help and advice
ABS rings are on the CV joints on AWD cars. They are seperate rings
on the rear of FWD cars. I have never actually seen a FWD A4. Why
would anyone put up with all the bullshit an Audi can hand out and not
get the advantage of AWD? May as well buy a Tempo.
As for the Quattro ABS sensor, there is no reason to mess with it or
remove it to do the wheel bearing. The bearing blows out right on
the car. Even if the carrier was inadvertantly removed, the sensor
simply goes along for the ride. It unplugs 2 feet away....
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:15:11 -0000, "Ronny" <Ron@ron.com> wrote:
>Any decent garage can do the job, its no different then doin a normal Front
>wheel bearing, they can be a bit of bitch to get off, mine had to go away to
>be pressed off, but I did drive the car untill the noise was unbearable
>
>When you all say the Rotor's/Discs have ABS rings in them, I dont remember
>this on mine, when I replaced the 4 disc's, is it only on some Audi's ?
>
>Ron
>
>Oh and my ABS still works fine, I think lol
>
on the rear of FWD cars. I have never actually seen a FWD A4. Why
would anyone put up with all the bullshit an Audi can hand out and not
get the advantage of AWD? May as well buy a Tempo.
As for the Quattro ABS sensor, there is no reason to mess with it or
remove it to do the wheel bearing. The bearing blows out right on
the car. Even if the carrier was inadvertantly removed, the sensor
simply goes along for the ride. It unplugs 2 feet away....
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:15:11 -0000, "Ronny" <Ron@ron.com> wrote:
>Any decent garage can do the job, its no different then doin a normal Front
>wheel bearing, they can be a bit of bitch to get off, mine had to go away to
>be pressed off, but I did drive the car untill the noise was unbearable
>
>When you all say the Rotor's/Discs have ABS rings in them, I dont remember
>this on mine, when I replaced the 4 disc's, is it only on some Audi's ?
>
>Ron
>
>Oh and my ABS still works fine, I think lol
>
10-29-2003, 06:48 AM
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Re: Audi a4 97 1.8T owner in Toronto needs help and advice
"JPF" <frickjpremovetheobvious@theoffice.net> wrote in message
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> ABS rings are on the CV joints on AWD cars. They are seperate rings
> on the rear of FWD cars. I have never actually seen a FWD A4. Why
> would anyone put up with all the bullshit an Audi can hand out and not
> get the advantage of AWD? May as well buy a Tempo.
> As for the Quattro ABS sensor, there is no reason to mess with it or
> remove it to do the wheel bearing. The bearing blows out right on
> the car. Even if the carrier was inadvertantly removed, the sensor
> simply goes along for the ride. It unplugs 2 feet away....
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:15:11 -0000, "Ronny" <Ron@ron.com> wrote:
cheers for the help
Ron
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