Tyre Wear
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Re: Tyre Wear
"mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >>
> >>
> >> Richard Goulding wrote:
> >> > I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of
> >> > the tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres
> >> > have done at least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am
> >> > going to replace them soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is
> >> > something to worry about. I do not notice any particular handling
> >> > problems apart from some tramlining which I put down to tyre wear. I
> >> > know that I need to get the tracking checked but the car is an Audi
> >> > A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre fitter playing
> >> > with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> >> > suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
> >>
> >> I'd be tempted to get it checked by an Audi dealer, an accident repair
> >> company or a motorsport type place. They should have tracking gear
that's
> >> better than the average tyre fitting place has (I've been ringing
around
> >> today, and it doesn't seem many places check camber, just tracking).
And
> > 4WD
> >> tracking sounds like it could be very complicated to me (adjustable
rear
> >> end?).
> >>
> >>
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > It is more complicated than just normal so I am reluctant to take it to
a
> > tyre place. But Audi dealers charge ridiculous amounts ( I've heard up
to
> > £200) for an alignment check. I want to avoid this if it turns out the
> > wear
> > is 'normal'.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> Get a simple car like a Fiesta or something, you shouldn't buy a car that
> you can't afford to run, expenses like this are part and parcel of having
a
> car which only a few years ago would have been able to compete in
> international motorsport and win.
>
> It is complex and this is why you have to pay a lot in maintenance.
>
> mrcheerful
>
>
Who said I couldn't afford it ? I just don't want to throw money away. A
different thing entirely.
So a road going A4 is similar to 'international motorsport winning car' ? I
don't think so !!
Richard
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Re: Tyre Wear
"Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:2E2dnUQ-c-zPv1ncSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>> >
>> > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:32ii4qF3n3e64U1@individual.net...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Richard Goulding wrote:
>> >> > I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of
>> >> > the tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres
>> >> > have done at least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am
>> >> > going to replace them soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is
>> >> > something to worry about. I do not notice any particular handling
>> >> > problems apart from some tramlining which I put down to tyre wear. I
>> >> > know that I need to get the tracking checked but the car is an Audi
>> >> > A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre fitter playing
>> >> > with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
>> >> > suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
>> >>
>> >> I'd be tempted to get it checked by an Audi dealer, an accident repair
>> >> company or a motorsport type place. They should have tracking gear
> that's
>> >> better than the average tyre fitting place has (I've been ringing
> around
>> >> today, and it doesn't seem many places check camber, just tracking).
> And
>> > 4WD
>> >> tracking sounds like it could be very complicated to me (adjustable
> rear
>> >> end?).
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Thanks for the reply.
>> >
>> > It is more complicated than just normal so I am reluctant to take it to
> a
>> > tyre place. But Audi dealers charge ridiculous amounts ( I've heard up
> to
>> > £200) for an alignment check. I want to avoid this if it turns out the
>> > wear
>> > is 'normal'.
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> Get a simple car like a Fiesta or something, you shouldn't buy a car that
>> you can't afford to run, expenses like this are part and parcel of having
> a
>> car which only a few years ago would have been able to compete in
>> international motorsport and win.
>>
>> It is complex and this is why you have to pay a lot in maintenance.
>>
>> mrcheerful
>>
>>
>
> Who said I couldn't afford it ? I just don't want to throw money away. A
> different thing entirely.
>
> So a road going A4 is similar to 'international motorsport winning car' ?
> I
> don't think so !!
>
> Richard
>
>
what about:
1980
Hannu Mikkola leaves the opposition dumbstruck when Audi officially launches
the quattro on the Algarve Rally. Mikkola, running as a course car on the
quattro's first public outing, sets a searing pace. Had times counted
towards the event, the Audi would have won by 30 minutes!
1981
Franz Wittmann won the Austrian January Rally in the Audi quattro's first
competitive outing. Shortly afterwards, Hannu Mikkola clinched Audi's first
World Rally Championship win in Sweden. The Finnish driver also won the RAC
Rally in Great Britain. Michèle Mouton caused a sensation on the San Remo
Rally as an Audi works team driver, becoming the first woman ever to win a
World Rally Championship event.
1982
Michèle Mouton won the Portuguese, Acropolis and Brazilian World Rally
Championship events only narrowly missing out on the Drivers World
Championship title. Victories by her team-mates Hannu Mikkola in Finland and
Great Britain and by Stig Blomqvist in Sweden and Italy helped Audi to the
Manufacturers World Championship title.
1983
Wins in Sweden, Portugal, Argentina and Finland, meant Hannu Mikkola was
crowned World Rally Champion for the first time. Stig Blomqvist rounded off
a good season by winning the RAC Rally.
1984
Walter Röhrl started Audi's most successful year in rally competition by
winning in Monte Carlo. Team-mate Stig Blomqvist won the Drivers World
Championship title with wins in Sweden, Greece, New Zealand, Argentina and -
for the first time in an Audi Sport quattro - the Ivory Coast, proving
himself a worthy successor to Hannu Mikkola, who triumphed in Portugal. Audi
won the Manufacturers Trophy for the second time.
your car is a modern derivative of these
mrcheerful
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Re: Tyre Wear
"Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:2E2dnUQ-c-zPv1ncSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>> >
>> > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:32ii4qF3n3e64U1@individual.net...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Richard Goulding wrote:
>> >> > I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of
>> >> > the tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres
>> >> > have done at least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am
>> >> > going to replace them soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is
>> >> > something to worry about. I do not notice any particular handling
>> >> > problems apart from some tramlining which I put down to tyre wear. I
>> >> > know that I need to get the tracking checked but the car is an Audi
>> >> > A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre fitter playing
>> >> > with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
>> >> > suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
>> >>
>> >> I'd be tempted to get it checked by an Audi dealer, an accident repair
>> >> company or a motorsport type place. They should have tracking gear
> that's
>> >> better than the average tyre fitting place has (I've been ringing
> around
>> >> today, and it doesn't seem many places check camber, just tracking).
> And
>> > 4WD
>> >> tracking sounds like it could be very complicated to me (adjustable
> rear
>> >> end?).
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Thanks for the reply.
>> >
>> > It is more complicated than just normal so I am reluctant to take it to
> a
>> > tyre place. But Audi dealers charge ridiculous amounts ( I've heard up
> to
>> > £200) for an alignment check. I want to avoid this if it turns out the
>> > wear
>> > is 'normal'.
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> Get a simple car like a Fiesta or something, you shouldn't buy a car that
>> you can't afford to run, expenses like this are part and parcel of having
> a
>> car which only a few years ago would have been able to compete in
>> international motorsport and win.
>>
>> It is complex and this is why you have to pay a lot in maintenance.
>>
>> mrcheerful
>>
>>
>
> Who said I couldn't afford it ? I just don't want to throw money away. A
> different thing entirely.
>
> So a road going A4 is similar to 'international motorsport winning car' ?
> I
> don't think so !!
>
> Richard
>
>
what about:
1980
Hannu Mikkola leaves the opposition dumbstruck when Audi officially launches
the quattro on the Algarve Rally. Mikkola, running as a course car on the
quattro's first public outing, sets a searing pace. Had times counted
towards the event, the Audi would have won by 30 minutes!
1981
Franz Wittmann won the Austrian January Rally in the Audi quattro's first
competitive outing. Shortly afterwards, Hannu Mikkola clinched Audi's first
World Rally Championship win in Sweden. The Finnish driver also won the RAC
Rally in Great Britain. Michèle Mouton caused a sensation on the San Remo
Rally as an Audi works team driver, becoming the first woman ever to win a
World Rally Championship event.
1982
Michèle Mouton won the Portuguese, Acropolis and Brazilian World Rally
Championship events only narrowly missing out on the Drivers World
Championship title. Victories by her team-mates Hannu Mikkola in Finland and
Great Britain and by Stig Blomqvist in Sweden and Italy helped Audi to the
Manufacturers World Championship title.
1983
Wins in Sweden, Portugal, Argentina and Finland, meant Hannu Mikkola was
crowned World Rally Champion for the first time. Stig Blomqvist rounded off
a good season by winning the RAC Rally.
1984
Walter Röhrl started Audi's most successful year in rally competition by
winning in Monte Carlo. Team-mate Stig Blomqvist won the Drivers World
Championship title with wins in Sweden, Greece, New Zealand, Argentina and -
for the first time in an Audi Sport quattro - the Ivory Coast, proving
himself a worthy successor to Hannu Mikkola, who triumphed in Portugal. Audi
won the Manufacturers Trophy for the second time.
your car is a modern derivative of these
mrcheerful
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Re: Tyre Wear
"Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:2E2dnUQ-c-zPv1ncSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>> >
>> > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:32ii4qF3n3e64U1@individual.net...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Richard Goulding wrote:
>> >> > I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of
>> >> > the tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres
>> >> > have done at least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am
>> >> > going to replace them soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is
>> >> > something to worry about. I do not notice any particular handling
>> >> > problems apart from some tramlining which I put down to tyre wear. I
>> >> > know that I need to get the tracking checked but the car is an Audi
>> >> > A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre fitter playing
>> >> > with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
>> >> > suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
>> >>
>> >> I'd be tempted to get it checked by an Audi dealer, an accident repair
>> >> company or a motorsport type place. They should have tracking gear
> that's
>> >> better than the average tyre fitting place has (I've been ringing
> around
>> >> today, and it doesn't seem many places check camber, just tracking).
> And
>> > 4WD
>> >> tracking sounds like it could be very complicated to me (adjustable
> rear
>> >> end?).
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Thanks for the reply.
>> >
>> > It is more complicated than just normal so I am reluctant to take it to
> a
>> > tyre place. But Audi dealers charge ridiculous amounts ( I've heard up
> to
>> > £200) for an alignment check. I want to avoid this if it turns out the
>> > wear
>> > is 'normal'.
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> Get a simple car like a Fiesta or something, you shouldn't buy a car that
>> you can't afford to run, expenses like this are part and parcel of having
> a
>> car which only a few years ago would have been able to compete in
>> international motorsport and win.
>>
>> It is complex and this is why you have to pay a lot in maintenance.
>>
>> mrcheerful
>>
>>
>
> Who said I couldn't afford it ? I just don't want to throw money away. A
> different thing entirely.
>
> So a road going A4 is similar to 'international motorsport winning car' ?
> I
> don't think so !!
>
> Richard
>
>
what about:
1980
Hannu Mikkola leaves the opposition dumbstruck when Audi officially launches
the quattro on the Algarve Rally. Mikkola, running as a course car on the
quattro's first public outing, sets a searing pace. Had times counted
towards the event, the Audi would have won by 30 minutes!
1981
Franz Wittmann won the Austrian January Rally in the Audi quattro's first
competitive outing. Shortly afterwards, Hannu Mikkola clinched Audi's first
World Rally Championship win in Sweden. The Finnish driver also won the RAC
Rally in Great Britain. Michèle Mouton caused a sensation on the San Remo
Rally as an Audi works team driver, becoming the first woman ever to win a
World Rally Championship event.
1982
Michèle Mouton won the Portuguese, Acropolis and Brazilian World Rally
Championship events only narrowly missing out on the Drivers World
Championship title. Victories by her team-mates Hannu Mikkola in Finland and
Great Britain and by Stig Blomqvist in Sweden and Italy helped Audi to the
Manufacturers World Championship title.
1983
Wins in Sweden, Portugal, Argentina and Finland, meant Hannu Mikkola was
crowned World Rally Champion for the first time. Stig Blomqvist rounded off
a good season by winning the RAC Rally.
1984
Walter Röhrl started Audi's most successful year in rally competition by
winning in Monte Carlo. Team-mate Stig Blomqvist won the Drivers World
Championship title with wins in Sweden, Greece, New Zealand, Argentina and -
for the first time in an Audi Sport quattro - the Ivory Coast, proving
himself a worthy successor to Hannu Mikkola, who triumphed in Portugal. Audi
won the Manufacturers Trophy for the second time.
your car is a modern derivative of these
mrcheerful
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Re: Tyre Wear
"mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:FZVwd.2275$Ar5.256@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> >>
> >> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >> news:2E2dnUQ-c-zPv1ncSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> >> >
> >> > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:32ii4qF3n3e64U1@individual.net...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Richard Goulding wrote:
> >> >> > I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside
of
> >> >> > the tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the
tyres
> >> >> > have done at least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I
am
> >> >> > going to replace them soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is
> >> >> > something to worry about. I do not notice any particular handling
> >> >> > problems apart from some tramlining which I put down to tyre wear.
I
> >> >> > know that I need to get the tracking checked but the car is an
Audi
> >> >> > A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre fitter playing
> >> >> > with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> >> >> > suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd be tempted to get it checked by an Audi dealer, an accident
repair
> >> >> company or a motorsport type place. They should have tracking gear
> > that's
> >> >> better than the average tyre fitting place has (I've been ringing
> > around
> >> >> today, and it doesn't seem many places check camber, just tracking).
> > And
> >> > 4WD
> >> >> tracking sounds like it could be very complicated to me (adjustable
> > rear
> >> >> end?).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Thanks for the reply.
> >> >
> >> > It is more complicated than just normal so I am reluctant to take it
to
> > a
> >> > tyre place. But Audi dealers charge ridiculous amounts ( I've heard
up
> > to
> >> > £200) for an alignment check. I want to avoid this if it turns out
the
> >> > wear
> >> > is 'normal'.
> >> >
> >> > Richard
> >> >
> >> Get a simple car like a Fiesta or something, you shouldn't buy a car
that
> >> you can't afford to run, expenses like this are part and parcel of
having
> > a
> >> car which only a few years ago would have been able to compete in
> >> international motorsport and win.
> >>
> >> It is complex and this is why you have to pay a lot in maintenance.
> >>
> >> mrcheerful
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Who said I couldn't afford it ? I just don't want to throw money away. A
> > different thing entirely.
> >
> > So a road going A4 is similar to 'international motorsport winning car'
?
> > I
> > don't think so !!
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
>
> what about:
> 1980
>
> Hannu Mikkola leaves the opposition dumbstruck when Audi officially
launches
> the quattro on the Algarve Rally. Mikkola, running as a course car on the
> quattro's first public outing, sets a searing pace. Had times counted
> towards the event, the Audi would have won by 30 minutes!
>
> 1981
>
> Franz Wittmann won the Austrian January Rally in the Audi quattro's first
> competitive outing. Shortly afterwards, Hannu Mikkola clinched Audi's
first
> World Rally Championship win in Sweden. The Finnish driver also won the
RAC
> Rally in Great Britain. Michèle Mouton caused a sensation on the San Remo
> Rally as an Audi works team driver, becoming the first woman ever to win a
> World Rally Championship event.
>
> 1982
>
> Michèle Mouton won the Portuguese, Acropolis and Brazilian World Rally
> Championship events only narrowly missing out on the Drivers World
> Championship title. Victories by her team-mates Hannu Mikkola in Finland
and
> Great Britain and by Stig Blomqvist in Sweden and Italy helped Audi to the
> Manufacturers World Championship title.
>
> 1983
>
> Wins in Sweden, Portugal, Argentina and Finland, meant Hannu Mikkola was
> crowned World Rally Champion for the first time. Stig Blomqvist rounded
off
> a good season by winning the RAC Rally.
>
> 1984
>
> Walter Röhrl started Audi's most successful year in rally competition by
> winning in Monte Carlo. Team-mate Stig Blomqvist won the Drivers World
> Championship title with wins in Sweden, Greece, New Zealand, Argentina
and -
> for the first time in an Audi Sport quattro - the Ivory Coast, proving
> himself a worthy successor to Hannu Mikkola, who triumphed in Portugal.
Audi
> won the Manufacturers Trophy for the second time.
>
>
>
> your car is a modern derivative of these
>
> mrcheerful
>
since with the possible exception ( and I doubt it wholeheartedly) of the
first example none of these is a group N (or equivalent, its been a long
time group1 I think in those heady days) showroom category car all the
others will be homologation rally specials with a very limited production
and trick items like fully adjustable rose jointed suspension outsize
turbochargers not at all derivative of road going cars. They bear bout the
same resemblance to the A4 as my Escort XR3i does to the Escort RS 1600 mk1
and remember 1880s audi quattro -100 /80 different body shells engines
boxes same name.Richards question is entirely valid is it a normal wear
under certain conditions? geometry check at a tyre depot? ROFL take a tip
when you get home check they tightened your wheel nuts thats often the level
of service.Its a shame that dealers treat routine checks as a milch cow I'd
look around for an independant explain your problem and ask if they can deal
Derek
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Re: Tyre Wear
"mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> newsCadnVy40PcGqFncSa8jmA@karoo.co.uk...
> >
> > "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:FZVwd.2275$Ar5.256@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> >>
> >> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >> news:2E2dnUQ-c-zPv1ncSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> >> >
> >> > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:32ii4qF3n3e64U1@individual.net...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Richard Goulding wrote:
> >> >> > I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside
of
> >> >> > the tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the
tyres
> >> >> > have done at least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I
am
> >> >> > going to replace them soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is
> >> >> > something to worry about. I do not notice any particular handling
> >> >> > problems apart from some tramlining which I put down to tyre wear.
I
> >> >> > know that I need to get the tracking checked but the car is an
Audi
> >> >> > A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre fitter playing
> >> >> > with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> >> >> > suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd be tempted to get it checked by an Audi dealer, an accident
repair
> >> >> company or a motorsport type place. They should have tracking gear
> > that's
> >> >> better than the average tyre fitting place has (I've been ringing
> > around
> >> >> today, and it doesn't seem many places check camber, just tracking).
> > And
> >> > 4WD
> >> >> tracking sounds like it could be very complicated to me (adjustable
> > rear
> >> >> end?).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Thanks for the reply.
> >> >
> >> > It is more complicated than just normal so I am reluctant to take it
to
> > a
> >> > tyre place. But Audi dealers charge ridiculous amounts ( I've heard
up
> > to
> >> > £200) for an alignment check. I want to avoid this if it turns out
the
> >> > wear
> >> > is 'normal'.
> >> >
> >> > Richard
> >> >
> >> Get a simple car like a Fiesta or something, you shouldn't buy a car
that
> >> you can't afford to run, expenses like this are part and parcel of
having
> > a
> >> car which only a few years ago would have been able to compete in
> >> international motorsport and win.
> >>
> >> It is complex and this is why you have to pay a lot in maintenance.
> >>
> >> mrcheerful
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Who said I couldn't afford it ? I just don't want to throw money away. A
> > different thing entirely.
> >
> > So a road going A4 is similar to 'international motorsport winning car'
?
> > I
> > don't think so !!
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
>
> what about:
> 1980
>
> Hannu Mikkola leaves the opposition dumbstruck when Audi officially
launches
> the quattro on the Algarve Rally. Mikkola, running as a course car on the
> quattro's first public outing, sets a searing pace. Had times counted
> towards the event, the Audi would have won by 30 minutes!
>
> 1981
>
> Franz Wittmann won the Austrian January Rally in the Audi quattro's first
> competitive outing. Shortly afterwards, Hannu Mikkola clinched Audi's
first
> World Rally Championship win in Sweden. The Finnish driver also won the
RAC
> Rally in Great Britain. Michèle Mouton caused a sensation on the San Remo
> Rally as an Audi works team driver, becoming the first woman ever to win a
> World Rally Championship event.
>
> 1982
>
> Michèle Mouton won the Portuguese, Acropolis and Brazilian World Rally
> Championship events only narrowly missing out on the Drivers World
> Championship title. Victories by her team-mates Hannu Mikkola in Finland
and
> Great Britain and by Stig Blomqvist in Sweden and Italy helped Audi to the
> Manufacturers World Championship title.
>
> 1983
>
> Wins in Sweden, Portugal, Argentina and Finland, meant Hannu Mikkola was
> crowned World Rally Champion for the first time. Stig Blomqvist rounded
off
> a good season by winning the RAC Rally.
>
> 1984
>
> Walter Röhrl started Audi's most successful year in rally competition by
> winning in Monte Carlo. Team-mate Stig Blomqvist won the Drivers World
> Championship title with wins in Sweden, Greece, New Zealand, Argentina
and -
> for the first time in an Audi Sport quattro - the Ivory Coast, proving
> himself a worthy successor to Hannu Mikkola, who triumphed in Portugal.
Audi
> won the Manufacturers Trophy for the second time.
>
>
>
> your car is a modern derivative of these
>
> mrcheerful
>
since with the possible exception ( and I doubt it wholeheartedly) of the
first example none of these is a group N (or equivalent, its been a long
time group1 I think in those heady days) showroom category car all the
others will be homologation rally specials with a very limited production
and trick items like fully adjustable rose jointed suspension outsize
turbochargers not at all derivative of road going cars. They bear bout the
same resemblance to the A4 as my Escort XR3i does to the Escort RS 1600 mk1
and remember 1880s audi quattro -100 /80 different body shells engines
boxes same name.Richards question is entirely valid is it a normal wear
under certain conditions? geometry check at a tyre depot? ROFL take a tip
when you get home check they tightened your wheel nuts thats often the level
of service.Its a shame that dealers treat routine checks as a milch cow I'd
look around for an independant explain your problem and ask if they can deal
Derek
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Re: Tyre Wear
"mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> > "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> "Richard Goulding" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >> news:2E2dnUQ-c-zPv1ncSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> >> >
> >> > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:32ii4qF3n3e64U1@individual.net...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Richard Goulding wrote:
> >> >> > I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside
of
> >> >> > the tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the
tyres
> >> >> > have done at least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I
am
> >> >> > going to replace them soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is
> >> >> > something to worry about. I do not notice any particular handling
> >> >> > problems apart from some tramlining which I put down to tyre wear.
I
> >> >> > know that I need to get the tracking checked but the car is an
Audi
> >> >> > A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre fitter playing
> >> >> > with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> >> >> > suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd be tempted to get it checked by an Audi dealer, an accident
repair
> >> >> company or a motorsport type place. They should have tracking gear
> > that's
> >> >> better than the average tyre fitting place has (I've been ringing
> > around
> >> >> today, and it doesn't seem many places check camber, just tracking).
> > And
> >> > 4WD
> >> >> tracking sounds like it could be very complicated to me (adjustable
> > rear
> >> >> end?).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Thanks for the reply.
> >> >
> >> > It is more complicated than just normal so I am reluctant to take it
to
> > a
> >> > tyre place. But Audi dealers charge ridiculous amounts ( I've heard
up
> > to
> >> > £200) for an alignment check. I want to avoid this if it turns out
the
> >> > wear
> >> > is 'normal'.
> >> >
> >> > Richard
> >> >
> >> Get a simple car like a Fiesta or something, you shouldn't buy a car
that
> >> you can't afford to run, expenses like this are part and parcel of
having
> > a
> >> car which only a few years ago would have been able to compete in
> >> international motorsport and win.
> >>
> >> It is complex and this is why you have to pay a lot in maintenance.
> >>
> >> mrcheerful
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Who said I couldn't afford it ? I just don't want to throw money away. A
> > different thing entirely.
> >
> > So a road going A4 is similar to 'international motorsport winning car'
?
> > I
> > don't think so !!
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
>
> what about:
> 1980
>
> Hannu Mikkola leaves the opposition dumbstruck when Audi officially
launches
> the quattro on the Algarve Rally. Mikkola, running as a course car on the
> quattro's first public outing, sets a searing pace. Had times counted
> towards the event, the Audi would have won by 30 minutes!
>
> 1981
>
> Franz Wittmann won the Austrian January Rally in the Audi quattro's first
> competitive outing. Shortly afterwards, Hannu Mikkola clinched Audi's
first
> World Rally Championship win in Sweden. The Finnish driver also won the
RAC
> Rally in Great Britain. Michèle Mouton caused a sensation on the San Remo
> Rally as an Audi works team driver, becoming the first woman ever to win a
> World Rally Championship event.
>
> 1982
>
> Michèle Mouton won the Portuguese, Acropolis and Brazilian World Rally
> Championship events only narrowly missing out on the Drivers World
> Championship title. Victories by her team-mates Hannu Mikkola in Finland
and
> Great Britain and by Stig Blomqvist in Sweden and Italy helped Audi to the
> Manufacturers World Championship title.
>
> 1983
>
> Wins in Sweden, Portugal, Argentina and Finland, meant Hannu Mikkola was
> crowned World Rally Champion for the first time. Stig Blomqvist rounded
off
> a good season by winning the RAC Rally.
>
> 1984
>
> Walter Röhrl started Audi's most successful year in rally competition by
> winning in Monte Carlo. Team-mate Stig Blomqvist won the Drivers World
> Championship title with wins in Sweden, Greece, New Zealand, Argentina
and -
> for the first time in an Audi Sport quattro - the Ivory Coast, proving
> himself a worthy successor to Hannu Mikkola, who triumphed in Portugal.
Audi
> won the Manufacturers Trophy for the second time.
>
>
>
> your car is a modern derivative of these
>
> mrcheerful
>
since with the possible exception ( and I doubt it wholeheartedly) of the
first example none of these is a group N (or equivalent, its been a long
time group1 I think in those heady days) showroom category car all the
others will be homologation rally specials with a very limited production
and trick items like fully adjustable rose jointed suspension outsize
turbochargers not at all derivative of road going cars. They bear bout the
same resemblance to the A4 as my Escort XR3i does to the Escort RS 1600 mk1
and remember 1880s audi quattro -100 /80 different body shells engines
boxes same name.Richards question is entirely valid is it a normal wear
under certain conditions? geometry check at a tyre depot? ROFL take a tip
when you get home check they tightened your wheel nuts thats often the level
of service.Its a shame that dealers treat routine checks as a milch cow I'd
look around for an independant explain your problem and ask if they can deal
Derek
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Re: Tyre Wear
In article <A8WcneBw4v16sl7cSa8jmA@karoo.co.uk>, nospam@nospam.net
says...
> I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of the
> tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres have done at
> least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am going to replace them
> soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is something to worry about. I do
> not notice any particular handling problems apart from some tramlining which
> I put down to tyre wear. I know that I need to get the tracking checked but
> the car is an Audi A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre
> fitter playing with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
>
> Any comments please,
>
When I was running a Honda Civic VTi (170BHP ish). I was told by the
dealer on delivery to expect that sort of wear and it looked to be set
up to wear that way (and saw it). It didn't half stick when cornering so
I assume the entire flat of the tyre went into play at that point. Maybe
it is a deliberate manufactuerer setup since a 'quattro' spec is going
to be more to teh performance end of the range. Check with your dealer
if this is normal behaviour.
Warwick
says...
> I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of the
> tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres have done at
> least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am going to replace them
> soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is something to worry about. I do
> not notice any particular handling problems apart from some tramlining which
> I put down to tyre wear. I know that I need to get the tracking checked but
> the car is an Audi A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre
> fitter playing with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
>
> Any comments please,
>
When I was running a Honda Civic VTi (170BHP ish). I was told by the
dealer on delivery to expect that sort of wear and it looked to be set
up to wear that way (and saw it). It didn't half stick when cornering so
I assume the entire flat of the tyre went into play at that point. Maybe
it is a deliberate manufactuerer setup since a 'quattro' spec is going
to be more to teh performance end of the range. Check with your dealer
if this is normal behaviour.
Warwick
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Re: Tyre Wear
In article <A8WcneBw4v16sl7cSa8jmA@karoo.co.uk>, nospam@nospam.net
says...
> I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of the
> tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres have done at
> least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am going to replace them
> soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is something to worry about. I do
> not notice any particular handling problems apart from some tramlining which
> I put down to tyre wear. I know that I need to get the tracking checked but
> the car is an Audi A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre
> fitter playing with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
>
> Any comments please,
>
When I was running a Honda Civic VTi (170BHP ish). I was told by the
dealer on delivery to expect that sort of wear and it looked to be set
up to wear that way (and saw it). It didn't half stick when cornering so
I assume the entire flat of the tyre went into play at that point. Maybe
it is a deliberate manufactuerer setup since a 'quattro' spec is going
to be more to teh performance end of the range. Check with your dealer
if this is normal behaviour.
Warwick
says...
> I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of the
> tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres have done at
> least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am going to replace them
> soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is something to worry about. I do
> not notice any particular handling problems apart from some tramlining which
> I put down to tyre wear. I know that I need to get the tracking checked but
> the car is an Audi A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre
> fitter playing with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
>
> Any comments please,
>
When I was running a Honda Civic VTi (170BHP ish). I was told by the
dealer on delivery to expect that sort of wear and it looked to be set
up to wear that way (and saw it). It didn't half stick when cornering so
I assume the entire flat of the tyre went into play at that point. Maybe
it is a deliberate manufactuerer setup since a 'quattro' spec is going
to be more to teh performance end of the range. Check with your dealer
if this is normal behaviour.
Warwick
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Re: Tyre Wear
In article <A8WcneBw4v16sl7cSa8jmA@karoo.co.uk>, nospam@nospam.net
says...
> I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of the
> tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres have done at
> least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am going to replace them
> soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is something to worry about. I do
> not notice any particular handling problems apart from some tramlining which
> I put down to tyre wear. I know that I need to get the tracking checked but
> the car is an Audi A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre
> fitter playing with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
>
> Any comments please,
>
When I was running a Honda Civic VTi (170BHP ish). I was told by the
dealer on delivery to expect that sort of wear and it looked to be set
up to wear that way (and saw it). It didn't half stick when cornering so
I assume the entire flat of the tyre went into play at that point. Maybe
it is a deliberate manufactuerer setup since a 'quattro' spec is going
to be more to teh performance end of the range. Check with your dealer
if this is normal behaviour.
Warwick
says...
> I have noticed that my front tyres are wearing more on the inside of the
> tread than the outside. I don't think it is severe as the tyres have done at
> least 22,000 miles and they are still reasonable. I am going to replace them
> soon but wonder whether this wear pattern is something to worry about. I do
> not notice any particular handling problems apart from some tramlining which
> I put down to tyre wear. I know that I need to get the tracking checked but
> the car is an Audi A4 Quattro and I don't want some inexperienced tyre
> fitter playing with my 4 wheel alignment. As I say it handles ok. I've had
> suggestions that this could be due to Power steering also.
>
> Any comments please,
>
When I was running a Honda Civic VTi (170BHP ish). I was told by the
dealer on delivery to expect that sort of wear and it looked to be set
up to wear that way (and saw it). It didn't half stick when cornering so
I assume the entire flat of the tyre went into play at that point. Maybe
it is a deliberate manufactuerer setup since a 'quattro' spec is going
to be more to teh performance end of the range. Check with your dealer
if this is normal behaviour.
Warwick