Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
01-30-2005, 05:59 PM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
davplac@aol.comPirate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:
>Ian writes:
>
>>Thermostats usually fail by sticking in some
>>position so the behavior you describe is unlikely. .
>
>I agree. But, on the chance it *is* a thermostat, while you down and in there,
>ya might as well replace the timing belt and the water pump.
Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
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>Ian writes:
>
>>Thermostats usually fail by sticking in some
>>position so the behavior you describe is unlikely. .
>
>I agree. But, on the chance it *is* a thermostat, while you down and in there,
>ya might as well replace the timing belt and the water pump.
Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
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01-30-2005, 05:59 PM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
davplac@aol.comPirate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:
>Ian writes:
>
>>Thermostats usually fail by sticking in some
>>position so the behavior you describe is unlikely. .
>
>I agree. But, on the chance it *is* a thermostat, while you down and in there,
>ya might as well replace the timing belt and the water pump.
Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
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>Ian writes:
>
>>Thermostats usually fail by sticking in some
>>position so the behavior you describe is unlikely. .
>
>I agree. But, on the chance it *is* a thermostat, while you down and in there,
>ya might as well replace the timing belt and the water pump.
Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
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01-31-2005, 03:51 AM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
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Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net> wrote:
> Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
> and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
> timing belt tensioner replaced in December.
You /did/ have the water pump and thermostat changed at the same time,
didn't you?
> I'd hate to go through much of that expense again if it is the
> thermostat.
Indeed.
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Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net> wrote:
> Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
> and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
> timing belt tensioner replaced in December.
You /did/ have the water pump and thermostat changed at the same time,
didn't you?
> I'd hate to go through much of that expense again if it is the
> thermostat.
Indeed.
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01-31-2005, 03:51 AM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
In message <q3tqv0pnlbpi8le3obu6jdt2i02qu71fee@4ax.com>
Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net> wrote:
> Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
> and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
> timing belt tensioner replaced in December.
You /did/ have the water pump and thermostat changed at the same time,
didn't you?
> I'd hate to go through much of that expense again if it is the
> thermostat.
Indeed.
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Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net> wrote:
> Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
> and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
> timing belt tensioner replaced in December.
You /did/ have the water pump and thermostat changed at the same time,
didn't you?
> I'd hate to go through much of that expense again if it is the
> thermostat.
Indeed.
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01-31-2005, 03:51 AM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
In message <q3tqv0pnlbpi8le3obu6jdt2i02qu71fee@4ax.com>
Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net> wrote:
> Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
> and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
> timing belt tensioner replaced in December.
You /did/ have the water pump and thermostat changed at the same time,
didn't you?
> I'd hate to go through much of that expense again if it is the
> thermostat.
Indeed.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net> wrote:
> Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
> and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
> timing belt tensioner replaced in December.
You /did/ have the water pump and thermostat changed at the same time,
didn't you?
> I'd hate to go through much of that expense again if it is the
> thermostat.
Indeed.
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Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
01-31-2005, 05:58 AM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:59:10 -0600, Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net>
wrote:
>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
change out the sensor/thermostat.
wrote:
>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
change out the sensor/thermostat.
01-31-2005, 05:58 AM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:59:10 -0600, Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net>
wrote:
>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
change out the sensor/thermostat.
wrote:
>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
change out the sensor/thermostat.
01-31-2005, 05:58 AM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:59:10 -0600, Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net>
wrote:
>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
change out the sensor/thermostat.
wrote:
>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
change out the sensor/thermostat.
01-31-2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:59:10 -0600, Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
>
>Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
>as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
>tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
>the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
>and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
>down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
>being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
>the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
>needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
>engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
>and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
>with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
>reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
>change out the sensor/thermostat.
Odd. My gauge drops to "C" as soon as I turn the key off - always has.
I assumed the gauge was electric and regardless of the engine temp, it
would not register if the car was off.
The car warms up on the inside as fast as ever, so the thermostat
can't be sticking open. The mechanic told me it would take 10-15
minutes before I got heat if that were the case, which makes sense.
The erratic behavior has subsided a bit. Wondering if it is an anomaly
similar to what you described after having your tb/tb tensioner
replaced? I am going to keep an eye on it and the oil temp. The car is
warming up - gets to *almost* 200F on the oil temp when driven for
extended periods (longer than 30 minutes) and is well above 175F even
for 5-10 minutes trips. Never gets above that in the winter. I've seen
it approach 250F in the dead of summer - gets above 95F here in TN.
More and more this looks like a faulty gauge sensor.
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>On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:59:10 -0600, Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
>
>Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
>as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
>tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
>the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
>and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
>down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
>being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
>the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
>needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
>engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
>and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
>with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
>reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
>change out the sensor/thermostat.
Odd. My gauge drops to "C" as soon as I turn the key off - always has.
I assumed the gauge was electric and regardless of the engine temp, it
would not register if the car was off.
The car warms up on the inside as fast as ever, so the thermostat
can't be sticking open. The mechanic told me it would take 10-15
minutes before I got heat if that were the case, which makes sense.
The erratic behavior has subsided a bit. Wondering if it is an anomaly
similar to what you described after having your tb/tb tensioner
replaced? I am going to keep an eye on it and the oil temp. The car is
warming up - gets to *almost* 200F on the oil temp when driven for
extended periods (longer than 30 minutes) and is well above 175F even
for 5-10 minutes trips. Never gets above that in the winter. I've seen
it approach 250F in the dead of summer - gets above 95F here in TN.
More and more this looks like a faulty gauge sensor.
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01-31-2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: Strange coolant temp guage movement - 98 A4 V6
KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:59:10 -0600, Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
>
>Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
>as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
>tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
>the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
>and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
>down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
>being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
>the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
>needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
>engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
>and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
>with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
>reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
>change out the sensor/thermostat.
Odd. My gauge drops to "C" as soon as I turn the key off - always has.
I assumed the gauge was electric and regardless of the engine temp, it
would not register if the car was off.
The car warms up on the inside as fast as ever, so the thermostat
can't be sticking open. The mechanic told me it would take 10-15
minutes before I got heat if that were the case, which makes sense.
The erratic behavior has subsided a bit. Wondering if it is an anomaly
similar to what you described after having your tb/tb tensioner
replaced? I am going to keep an eye on it and the oil temp. The car is
warming up - gets to *almost* 200F on the oil temp when driven for
extended periods (longer than 30 minutes) and is well above 175F even
for 5-10 minutes trips. Never gets above that in the winter. I've seen
it approach 250F in the dead of summer - gets above 95F here in TN.
More and more this looks like a faulty gauge sensor.
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>On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:59:10 -0600, Ed H. <nospam@myaddress.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Well, I hope it is the sensor. I described the behavior to them Friday
>>and they agreed with the general opinion. I had the timing belt and
>>timing belt tensioner replaced in December. I'd hate to go through
>>much of that expense again if it is the thermostat.
>
>Funny you mention this because my own A4, identical model and vintage
>as yours, does/did the same thing after getting a whole new TB/TB
>tensioner, and water pump at 69k miles. Before this work was done,
>the coolant gauge would stay rock solid right on the middle hash mark,
>and afterward it would wander up almost to the next hash mark and back
>down and back again. This wandering behavior has stopped for the time
>being (our temps are freezing right now, with lots of snow and ice on
>the ground, reaffirming the perfection of the A4 for my driving
>needs). The gauge never passes that next hash mark except when the
>engine is turned off and the car is hot; once I get the engine started
>and the radiator cooling, the gauge moves back down again. I've lived
>with this now for almost $15k miles and just keep my eye on it for the
>reason you state: I really don't want to fork over the labor $$ to
>change out the sensor/thermostat.
Odd. My gauge drops to "C" as soon as I turn the key off - always has.
I assumed the gauge was electric and regardless of the engine temp, it
would not register if the car was off.
The car warms up on the inside as fast as ever, so the thermostat
can't be sticking open. The mechanic told me it would take 10-15
minutes before I got heat if that were the case, which makes sense.
The erratic behavior has subsided a bit. Wondering if it is an anomaly
similar to what you described after having your tb/tb tensioner
replaced? I am going to keep an eye on it and the oil temp. The car is
warming up - gets to *almost* 200F on the oil temp when driven for
extended periods (longer than 30 minutes) and is well above 175F even
for 5-10 minutes trips. Never gets above that in the winter. I've seen
it approach 250F in the dead of summer - gets above 95F here in TN.
More and more this looks like a faulty gauge sensor.
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