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Re: S3
> > > Thanks to all who replied, a couple of very different views there. > Probably looking to spend upto a maximum of 10k on one. Cars is this region > are usually around 5 years old with around 100,000 miles. > > Will check out that forum, thanks very much. > > > I've had no reliability problems with my TDi. It does have the rust in the roof channels though- it's six years old, so check any prospective purchase. This is the only really dissapointing thing about the car- other than that it's great, but I'll admit finding that has not pleased me. Petrol A3s did have a bit of a problem due to the coil pack fiasco, but they'll have been sorted by now. |
Re: S3
> > > Thanks to all who replied, a couple of very different views there. > Probably looking to spend upto a maximum of 10k on one. Cars is this region > are usually around 5 years old with around 100,000 miles. > > Will check out that forum, thanks very much. > > > I've had no reliability problems with my TDi. It does have the rust in the roof channels though- it's six years old, so check any prospective purchase. This is the only really dissapointing thing about the car- other than that it's great, but I'll admit finding that has not pleased me. Petrol A3s did have a bit of a problem due to the coil pack fiasco, but they'll have been sorted by now. |
Re: S3
Hehe, you thought Audi was unreliable and then you tried Jag?
lol "Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message news:g04cs1luftvbunek4j6eb0vrag83pgcbtj@4ax.com... > On 11 Jan 2006 08:46:31 -0800, dan_martland@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > >>vw-stuff wrote: >>> Hello >>> Looking to change by VW Golf GTi for an Audi S3. Would really >>> appreciate >>> your comments on the S3 regarding reliability/performance etc. >>> Is there really a difference between the 210 and 225bhp models? >>> >>> TIA >> >>Hello, >> >>I have just sold my MY2000 S3 last week. There are three 'types' of S3 >>available: >>210bhp Pre-Face Lift, >>210bhp Post-Face Lift, and >>225bhp Post-Face Lift. >> >>The face lift involved primarily a change to the lights and the dash >>board of the car IIRC. My car was 210bhp and pre-face lift. My >>experience with the driver community for S3s is that there is very >>little difference between the 210bhp and 225bhp cars in the real world. >> The history behind the cars is that Audi wanted to make the TT >>'faster' than the S3 and so originally the TT had 225bhp whilst the S3 >>had 210bhp. >> >>I bought my car at 6 months old, with 2k miles on the clock. Over the >>5 years or so that I had the car I upped the mileage to 95k miles >>(mostly motorway) with no reliability issues. Just make sure that the >>car has a full service history (from an Audi dealership or independent >>specialist) and has had the cam belt changed at 80k miles if >>applicable. >> >>The standard S3 is not as quick as some other hot hatches or an Impreza >>WRX, but is IMO the most refined hot hatch available. It blends >>performance, luxury, practicality and prestige with discrete styling. >> >>If you want the S3 to really be a performance car then you need to get >>it modified. There is a thriving modification community for the S3 >>(and other VAG cars with similar mechanicals). Over the life time of >>my car I spent £4500 on having it enhanced, with an engine remap, >>sports exhaust, uprated brakes and suspension. These mods raised the >>car from excellent to outstanding. I had my car modified when it had >>55k miles on the clock and there was no reduction in reliability and no >>reduction in motorway fuel economy. I can certainly recommend the >>modification route if you have the funds to do it correctly - the best >>improvements to the car were suspension and brakes (which were also the >>most costly changes too). >> >>As an upgrade from a Golf GTi, I think the S3 would be hard to beat. >>It takes all the qualities of the GTi and turns the dial up to 10, >>whilst actually being a more discrete car to own as only enthusiasts >>usually recognise it. >> >>I would suggest checking out www.audi-sport.net as a thriving Audi >>community. >> >>Cheers >>Dan > > I had a post face lift S3 225BHP model. I leased it for 18 months and > over a 10 month period it broke down 4 times with engine management > failures. That is all the warning lights came on and car would not do > more than 20mph - very scary on the outside lane of a motorway in the > wet. Audi had the car for over 6 weeks trying to find the fault but > kept returning the car as No Fault Found. That was even after Audi > sent on of their ADTs (Audi Dedicated Technicians) out to the last > breakdown to diagnose the fault at the roadside. All they could do was > reset the engine management system. I cancelled the lease in the end > because neither my wife or I could trust the car and AUDI paid me some > compensation for the 6 weeks off the road. > > I had liitle faith in Audi or their dealers to actually understand > these cars. Remember that Which said the TT 225BHP was the most > unreliable car they ever tested with a one in four chance of a > breakdown in the first year. > > The performance was good but the handling was a bit dead with very > little feedback through the steering. It was hard to feel the car > through bends which didn't inspire confidence. > > I tried an 3.0 X-type Jag after that but it brokedown on the test > drive!! I used to drive Alfas and went back to them as they proved to > be more reliable and much more fun to drive. I drive around 40,000 > miles a year. |
Re: S3
Hehe, you thought Audi was unreliable and then you tried Jag?
lol "Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message news:g04cs1luftvbunek4j6eb0vrag83pgcbtj@4ax.com... > On 11 Jan 2006 08:46:31 -0800, dan_martland@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > >>vw-stuff wrote: >>> Hello >>> Looking to change by VW Golf GTi for an Audi S3. Would really >>> appreciate >>> your comments on the S3 regarding reliability/performance etc. >>> Is there really a difference between the 210 and 225bhp models? >>> >>> TIA >> >>Hello, >> >>I have just sold my MY2000 S3 last week. There are three 'types' of S3 >>available: >>210bhp Pre-Face Lift, >>210bhp Post-Face Lift, and >>225bhp Post-Face Lift. >> >>The face lift involved primarily a change to the lights and the dash >>board of the car IIRC. My car was 210bhp and pre-face lift. My >>experience with the driver community for S3s is that there is very >>little difference between the 210bhp and 225bhp cars in the real world. >> The history behind the cars is that Audi wanted to make the TT >>'faster' than the S3 and so originally the TT had 225bhp whilst the S3 >>had 210bhp. >> >>I bought my car at 6 months old, with 2k miles on the clock. Over the >>5 years or so that I had the car I upped the mileage to 95k miles >>(mostly motorway) with no reliability issues. Just make sure that the >>car has a full service history (from an Audi dealership or independent >>specialist) and has had the cam belt changed at 80k miles if >>applicable. >> >>The standard S3 is not as quick as some other hot hatches or an Impreza >>WRX, but is IMO the most refined hot hatch available. It blends >>performance, luxury, practicality and prestige with discrete styling. >> >>If you want the S3 to really be a performance car then you need to get >>it modified. There is a thriving modification community for the S3 >>(and other VAG cars with similar mechanicals). Over the life time of >>my car I spent £4500 on having it enhanced, with an engine remap, >>sports exhaust, uprated brakes and suspension. These mods raised the >>car from excellent to outstanding. I had my car modified when it had >>55k miles on the clock and there was no reduction in reliability and no >>reduction in motorway fuel economy. I can certainly recommend the >>modification route if you have the funds to do it correctly - the best >>improvements to the car were suspension and brakes (which were also the >>most costly changes too). >> >>As an upgrade from a Golf GTi, I think the S3 would be hard to beat. >>It takes all the qualities of the GTi and turns the dial up to 10, >>whilst actually being a more discrete car to own as only enthusiasts >>usually recognise it. >> >>I would suggest checking out www.audi-sport.net as a thriving Audi >>community. >> >>Cheers >>Dan > > I had a post face lift S3 225BHP model. I leased it for 18 months and > over a 10 month period it broke down 4 times with engine management > failures. That is all the warning lights came on and car would not do > more than 20mph - very scary on the outside lane of a motorway in the > wet. Audi had the car for over 6 weeks trying to find the fault but > kept returning the car as No Fault Found. That was even after Audi > sent on of their ADTs (Audi Dedicated Technicians) out to the last > breakdown to diagnose the fault at the roadside. All they could do was > reset the engine management system. I cancelled the lease in the end > because neither my wife or I could trust the car and AUDI paid me some > compensation for the 6 weeks off the road. > > I had liitle faith in Audi or their dealers to actually understand > these cars. Remember that Which said the TT 225BHP was the most > unreliable car they ever tested with a one in four chance of a > breakdown in the first year. > > The performance was good but the handling was a bit dead with very > little feedback through the steering. It was hard to feel the car > through bends which didn't inspire confidence. > > I tried an 3.0 X-type Jag after that but it brokedown on the test > drive!! I used to drive Alfas and went back to them as they proved to > be more reliable and much more fun to drive. I drive around 40,000 > miles a year. |
Re: S3
Hehe, you thought Audi was unreliable and then you tried Jag?
lol "Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message news:g04cs1luftvbunek4j6eb0vrag83pgcbtj@4ax.com... > On 11 Jan 2006 08:46:31 -0800, dan_martland@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > >>vw-stuff wrote: >>> Hello >>> Looking to change by VW Golf GTi for an Audi S3. Would really >>> appreciate >>> your comments on the S3 regarding reliability/performance etc. >>> Is there really a difference between the 210 and 225bhp models? >>> >>> TIA >> >>Hello, >> >>I have just sold my MY2000 S3 last week. There are three 'types' of S3 >>available: >>210bhp Pre-Face Lift, >>210bhp Post-Face Lift, and >>225bhp Post-Face Lift. >> >>The face lift involved primarily a change to the lights and the dash >>board of the car IIRC. My car was 210bhp and pre-face lift. My >>experience with the driver community for S3s is that there is very >>little difference between the 210bhp and 225bhp cars in the real world. >> The history behind the cars is that Audi wanted to make the TT >>'faster' than the S3 and so originally the TT had 225bhp whilst the S3 >>had 210bhp. >> >>I bought my car at 6 months old, with 2k miles on the clock. Over the >>5 years or so that I had the car I upped the mileage to 95k miles >>(mostly motorway) with no reliability issues. Just make sure that the >>car has a full service history (from an Audi dealership or independent >>specialist) and has had the cam belt changed at 80k miles if >>applicable. >> >>The standard S3 is not as quick as some other hot hatches or an Impreza >>WRX, but is IMO the most refined hot hatch available. It blends >>performance, luxury, practicality and prestige with discrete styling. >> >>If you want the S3 to really be a performance car then you need to get >>it modified. There is a thriving modification community for the S3 >>(and other VAG cars with similar mechanicals). Over the life time of >>my car I spent £4500 on having it enhanced, with an engine remap, >>sports exhaust, uprated brakes and suspension. These mods raised the >>car from excellent to outstanding. I had my car modified when it had >>55k miles on the clock and there was no reduction in reliability and no >>reduction in motorway fuel economy. I can certainly recommend the >>modification route if you have the funds to do it correctly - the best >>improvements to the car were suspension and brakes (which were also the >>most costly changes too). >> >>As an upgrade from a Golf GTi, I think the S3 would be hard to beat. >>It takes all the qualities of the GTi and turns the dial up to 10, >>whilst actually being a more discrete car to own as only enthusiasts >>usually recognise it. >> >>I would suggest checking out www.audi-sport.net as a thriving Audi >>community. >> >>Cheers >>Dan > > I had a post face lift S3 225BHP model. I leased it for 18 months and > over a 10 month period it broke down 4 times with engine management > failures. That is all the warning lights came on and car would not do > more than 20mph - very scary on the outside lane of a motorway in the > wet. Audi had the car for over 6 weeks trying to find the fault but > kept returning the car as No Fault Found. That was even after Audi > sent on of their ADTs (Audi Dedicated Technicians) out to the last > breakdown to diagnose the fault at the roadside. All they could do was > reset the engine management system. I cancelled the lease in the end > because neither my wife or I could trust the car and AUDI paid me some > compensation for the 6 weeks off the road. > > I had liitle faith in Audi or their dealers to actually understand > these cars. Remember that Which said the TT 225BHP was the most > unreliable car they ever tested with a one in four chance of a > breakdown in the first year. > > The performance was good but the handling was a bit dead with very > little feedback through the steering. It was hard to feel the car > through bends which didn't inspire confidence. > > I tried an 3.0 X-type Jag after that but it brokedown on the test > drive!! I used to drive Alfas and went back to them as they proved to > be more reliable and much more fun to drive. I drive around 40,000 > miles a year. |
Re: S3
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:14:56 +1100, "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com>
wrote: >Hehe, you thought Audi was unreliable and then you tried Jag? > >lol The diiference was that at least Jag knew what the problem was staright away, a water leak, whereas Audi could could not diagnose the problem after 10 months. The S3 was so complicated that it was defeating their own technicians. > > >"Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message >news:g04cs1luftvbunek4j6eb0vrag83pgcbtj@4ax.com.. . >> On 11 Jan 2006 08:46:31 -0800, dan_martland@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >> >>>vw-stuff wrote: >>>> Hello >>>> Looking to change by VW Golf GTi for an Audi S3. Would really >>>> appreciate >>>> your comments on the S3 regarding reliability/performance etc. >>>> Is there really a difference between the 210 and 225bhp models? >>>> >>>> TIA >>> >>>Hello, >>> >>>I have just sold my MY2000 S3 last week. There are three 'types' of S3 >>>available: >>>210bhp Pre-Face Lift, >>>210bhp Post-Face Lift, and >>>225bhp Post-Face Lift. >>> >>>The face lift involved primarily a change to the lights and the dash >>>board of the car IIRC. My car was 210bhp and pre-face lift. My >>>experience with the driver community for S3s is that there is very >>>little difference between the 210bhp and 225bhp cars in the real world. >>> The history behind the cars is that Audi wanted to make the TT >>>'faster' than the S3 and so originally the TT had 225bhp whilst the S3 >>>had 210bhp. >>> >>>I bought my car at 6 months old, with 2k miles on the clock. Over the >>>5 years or so that I had the car I upped the mileage to 95k miles >>>(mostly motorway) with no reliability issues. Just make sure that the >>>car has a full service history (from an Audi dealership or independent >>>specialist) and has had the cam belt changed at 80k miles if >>>applicable. >>> >>>The standard S3 is not as quick as some other hot hatches or an Impreza >>>WRX, but is IMO the most refined hot hatch available. It blends >>>performance, luxury, practicality and prestige with discrete styling. >>> >>>If you want the S3 to really be a performance car then you need to get >>>it modified. There is a thriving modification community for the S3 >>>(and other VAG cars with similar mechanicals). Over the life time of >>>my car I spent £4500 on having it enhanced, with an engine remap, >>>sports exhaust, uprated brakes and suspension. These mods raised the >>>car from excellent to outstanding. I had my car modified when it had >>>55k miles on the clock and there was no reduction in reliability and no >>>reduction in motorway fuel economy. I can certainly recommend the >>>modification route if you have the funds to do it correctly - the best >>>improvements to the car were suspension and brakes (which were also the >>>most costly changes too). >>> >>>As an upgrade from a Golf GTi, I think the S3 would be hard to beat. >>>It takes all the qualities of the GTi and turns the dial up to 10, >>>whilst actually being a more discrete car to own as only enthusiasts >>>usually recognise it. >>> >>>I would suggest checking out www.audi-sport.net as a thriving Audi >>>community. >>> >>>Cheers >>>Dan >> >> I had a post face lift S3 225BHP model. I leased it for 18 months and >> over a 10 month period it broke down 4 times with engine management >> failures. That is all the warning lights came on and car would not do >> more than 20mph - very scary on the outside lane of a motorway in the >> wet. Audi had the car for over 6 weeks trying to find the fault but >> kept returning the car as No Fault Found. That was even after Audi >> sent on of their ADTs (Audi Dedicated Technicians) out to the last >> breakdown to diagnose the fault at the roadside. All they could do was >> reset the engine management system. I cancelled the lease in the end >> because neither my wife or I could trust the car and AUDI paid me some >> compensation for the 6 weeks off the road. >> >> I had liitle faith in Audi or their dealers to actually understand >> these cars. Remember that Which said the TT 225BHP was the most >> unreliable car they ever tested with a one in four chance of a >> breakdown in the first year. >> >> The performance was good but the handling was a bit dead with very >> little feedback through the steering. It was hard to feel the car >> through bends which didn't inspire confidence. >> >> I tried an 3.0 X-type Jag after that but it brokedown on the test >> drive!! I used to drive Alfas and went back to them as they proved to >> be more reliable and much more fun to drive. I drive around 40,000 >> miles a year. > |
Re: S3
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:14:56 +1100, "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com>
wrote: >Hehe, you thought Audi was unreliable and then you tried Jag? > >lol The diiference was that at least Jag knew what the problem was staright away, a water leak, whereas Audi could could not diagnose the problem after 10 months. The S3 was so complicated that it was defeating their own technicians. > > >"Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message >news:g04cs1luftvbunek4j6eb0vrag83pgcbtj@4ax.com.. . >> On 11 Jan 2006 08:46:31 -0800, dan_martland@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >> >>>vw-stuff wrote: >>>> Hello >>>> Looking to change by VW Golf GTi for an Audi S3. Would really >>>> appreciate >>>> your comments on the S3 regarding reliability/performance etc. >>>> Is there really a difference between the 210 and 225bhp models? >>>> >>>> TIA >>> >>>Hello, >>> >>>I have just sold my MY2000 S3 last week. There are three 'types' of S3 >>>available: >>>210bhp Pre-Face Lift, >>>210bhp Post-Face Lift, and >>>225bhp Post-Face Lift. >>> >>>The face lift involved primarily a change to the lights and the dash >>>board of the car IIRC. My car was 210bhp and pre-face lift. My >>>experience with the driver community for S3s is that there is very >>>little difference between the 210bhp and 225bhp cars in the real world. >>> The history behind the cars is that Audi wanted to make the TT >>>'faster' than the S3 and so originally the TT had 225bhp whilst the S3 >>>had 210bhp. >>> >>>I bought my car at 6 months old, with 2k miles on the clock. Over the >>>5 years or so that I had the car I upped the mileage to 95k miles >>>(mostly motorway) with no reliability issues. Just make sure that the >>>car has a full service history (from an Audi dealership or independent >>>specialist) and has had the cam belt changed at 80k miles if >>>applicable. >>> >>>The standard S3 is not as quick as some other hot hatches or an Impreza >>>WRX, but is IMO the most refined hot hatch available. It blends >>>performance, luxury, practicality and prestige with discrete styling. >>> >>>If you want the S3 to really be a performance car then you need to get >>>it modified. There is a thriving modification community for the S3 >>>(and other VAG cars with similar mechanicals). Over the life time of >>>my car I spent £4500 on having it enhanced, with an engine remap, >>>sports exhaust, uprated brakes and suspension. These mods raised the >>>car from excellent to outstanding. I had my car modified when it had >>>55k miles on the clock and there was no reduction in reliability and no >>>reduction in motorway fuel economy. I can certainly recommend the >>>modification route if you have the funds to do it correctly - the best >>>improvements to the car were suspension and brakes (which were also the >>>most costly changes too). >>> >>>As an upgrade from a Golf GTi, I think the S3 would be hard to beat. >>>It takes all the qualities of the GTi and turns the dial up to 10, >>>whilst actually being a more discrete car to own as only enthusiasts >>>usually recognise it. >>> >>>I would suggest checking out www.audi-sport.net as a thriving Audi >>>community. >>> >>>Cheers >>>Dan >> >> I had a post face lift S3 225BHP model. I leased it for 18 months and >> over a 10 month period it broke down 4 times with engine management >> failures. That is all the warning lights came on and car would not do >> more than 20mph - very scary on the outside lane of a motorway in the >> wet. Audi had the car for over 6 weeks trying to find the fault but >> kept returning the car as No Fault Found. That was even after Audi >> sent on of their ADTs (Audi Dedicated Technicians) out to the last >> breakdown to diagnose the fault at the roadside. All they could do was >> reset the engine management system. I cancelled the lease in the end >> because neither my wife or I could trust the car and AUDI paid me some >> compensation for the 6 weeks off the road. >> >> I had liitle faith in Audi or their dealers to actually understand >> these cars. Remember that Which said the TT 225BHP was the most >> unreliable car they ever tested with a one in four chance of a >> breakdown in the first year. >> >> The performance was good but the handling was a bit dead with very >> little feedback through the steering. It was hard to feel the car >> through bends which didn't inspire confidence. >> >> I tried an 3.0 X-type Jag after that but it brokedown on the test >> drive!! I used to drive Alfas and went back to them as they proved to >> be more reliable and much more fun to drive. I drive around 40,000 >> miles a year. > |
Re: S3
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:14:56 +1100, "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com>
wrote: >Hehe, you thought Audi was unreliable and then you tried Jag? > >lol The diiference was that at least Jag knew what the problem was staright away, a water leak, whereas Audi could could not diagnose the problem after 10 months. The S3 was so complicated that it was defeating their own technicians. > > >"Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message >news:g04cs1luftvbunek4j6eb0vrag83pgcbtj@4ax.com.. . >> On 11 Jan 2006 08:46:31 -0800, dan_martland@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >> >>>vw-stuff wrote: >>>> Hello >>>> Looking to change by VW Golf GTi for an Audi S3. Would really >>>> appreciate >>>> your comments on the S3 regarding reliability/performance etc. >>>> Is there really a difference between the 210 and 225bhp models? >>>> >>>> TIA >>> >>>Hello, >>> >>>I have just sold my MY2000 S3 last week. There are three 'types' of S3 >>>available: >>>210bhp Pre-Face Lift, >>>210bhp Post-Face Lift, and >>>225bhp Post-Face Lift. >>> >>>The face lift involved primarily a change to the lights and the dash >>>board of the car IIRC. My car was 210bhp and pre-face lift. My >>>experience with the driver community for S3s is that there is very >>>little difference between the 210bhp and 225bhp cars in the real world. >>> The history behind the cars is that Audi wanted to make the TT >>>'faster' than the S3 and so originally the TT had 225bhp whilst the S3 >>>had 210bhp. >>> >>>I bought my car at 6 months old, with 2k miles on the clock. Over the >>>5 years or so that I had the car I upped the mileage to 95k miles >>>(mostly motorway) with no reliability issues. Just make sure that the >>>car has a full service history (from an Audi dealership or independent >>>specialist) and has had the cam belt changed at 80k miles if >>>applicable. >>> >>>The standard S3 is not as quick as some other hot hatches or an Impreza >>>WRX, but is IMO the most refined hot hatch available. It blends >>>performance, luxury, practicality and prestige with discrete styling. >>> >>>If you want the S3 to really be a performance car then you need to get >>>it modified. There is a thriving modification community for the S3 >>>(and other VAG cars with similar mechanicals). Over the life time of >>>my car I spent £4500 on having it enhanced, with an engine remap, >>>sports exhaust, uprated brakes and suspension. These mods raised the >>>car from excellent to outstanding. I had my car modified when it had >>>55k miles on the clock and there was no reduction in reliability and no >>>reduction in motorway fuel economy. I can certainly recommend the >>>modification route if you have the funds to do it correctly - the best >>>improvements to the car were suspension and brakes (which were also the >>>most costly changes too). >>> >>>As an upgrade from a Golf GTi, I think the S3 would be hard to beat. >>>It takes all the qualities of the GTi and turns the dial up to 10, >>>whilst actually being a more discrete car to own as only enthusiasts >>>usually recognise it. >>> >>>I would suggest checking out www.audi-sport.net as a thriving Audi >>>community. >>> >>>Cheers >>>Dan >> >> I had a post face lift S3 225BHP model. I leased it for 18 months and >> over a 10 month period it broke down 4 times with engine management >> failures. That is all the warning lights came on and car would not do >> more than 20mph - very scary on the outside lane of a motorway in the >> wet. Audi had the car for over 6 weeks trying to find the fault but >> kept returning the car as No Fault Found. That was even after Audi >> sent on of their ADTs (Audi Dedicated Technicians) out to the last >> breakdown to diagnose the fault at the roadside. All they could do was >> reset the engine management system. I cancelled the lease in the end >> because neither my wife or I could trust the car and AUDI paid me some >> compensation for the 6 weeks off the road. >> >> I had liitle faith in Audi or their dealers to actually understand >> these cars. Remember that Which said the TT 225BHP was the most >> unreliable car they ever tested with a one in four chance of a >> breakdown in the first year. >> >> The performance was good but the handling was a bit dead with very >> little feedback through the steering. It was hard to feel the car >> through bends which didn't inspire confidence. >> >> I tried an 3.0 X-type Jag after that but it brokedown on the test >> drive!! I used to drive Alfas and went back to them as they proved to >> be more reliable and much more fun to drive. I drive around 40,000 >> miles a year. > |
Re: S3
Yeah, the audi technology is pretty complex and it would be hard to
troubleshoot a lemon. Unfortunately you seem to be turning to all the wrong marquis. If it's reliability you want, then Toyota/Lexus, Honda and Suberu have better reputations than the Germans. And can't even be compared to the American and British. "Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message news:m8v8t1d6mqgcqaq8euaa4gsnjcsvaiktt0@4ax.com... > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:14:56 +1100, "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>Hehe, you thought Audi was unreliable and then you tried Jag? >> >>lol > > The diiference was that at least Jag knew what the problem was > staright away, a water leak, whereas Audi could could not diagnose the > problem after 10 months. The S3 was so complicated that it was > defeating their own technicians. >> >> >>"Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message >>news:g04cs1luftvbunek4j6eb0vrag83pgcbtj@4ax.com. .. >>> On 11 Jan 2006 08:46:31 -0800, dan_martland@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >>> >>>>vw-stuff wrote: >>>>> Hello >>>>> Looking to change by VW Golf GTi for an Audi S3. Would really >>>>> appreciate >>>>> your comments on the S3 regarding reliability/performance etc. >>>>> Is there really a difference between the 210 and 225bhp models? >>>>> >>>>> TIA >>>> >>>>Hello, >>>> >>>>I have just sold my MY2000 S3 last week. There are three 'types' of S3 >>>>available: >>>>210bhp Pre-Face Lift, >>>>210bhp Post-Face Lift, and >>>>225bhp Post-Face Lift. >>>> >>>>The face lift involved primarily a change to the lights and the dash >>>>board of the car IIRC. My car was 210bhp and pre-face lift. My >>>>experience with the driver community for S3s is that there is very >>>>little difference between the 210bhp and 225bhp cars in the real world. >>>> The history behind the cars is that Audi wanted to make the TT >>>>'faster' than the S3 and so originally the TT had 225bhp whilst the S3 >>>>had 210bhp. >>>> >>>>I bought my car at 6 months old, with 2k miles on the clock. Over the >>>>5 years or so that I had the car I upped the mileage to 95k miles >>>>(mostly motorway) with no reliability issues. Just make sure that the >>>>car has a full service history (from an Audi dealership or independent >>>>specialist) and has had the cam belt changed at 80k miles if >>>>applicable. >>>> >>>>The standard S3 is not as quick as some other hot hatches or an Impreza >>>>WRX, but is IMO the most refined hot hatch available. It blends >>>>performance, luxury, practicality and prestige with discrete styling. >>>> >>>>If you want the S3 to really be a performance car then you need to get >>>>it modified. There is a thriving modification community for the S3 >>>>(and other VAG cars with similar mechanicals). Over the life time of >>>>my car I spent £4500 on having it enhanced, with an engine remap, >>>>sports exhaust, uprated brakes and suspension. These mods raised the >>>>car from excellent to outstanding. I had my car modified when it had >>>>55k miles on the clock and there was no reduction in reliability and no >>>>reduction in motorway fuel economy. I can certainly recommend the >>>>modification route if you have the funds to do it correctly - the best >>>>improvements to the car were suspension and brakes (which were also the >>>>most costly changes too). >>>> >>>>As an upgrade from a Golf GTi, I think the S3 would be hard to beat. >>>>It takes all the qualities of the GTi and turns the dial up to 10, >>>>whilst actually being a more discrete car to own as only enthusiasts >>>>usually recognise it. >>>> >>>>I would suggest checking out www.audi-sport.net as a thriving Audi >>>>community. >>>> >>>>Cheers >>>>Dan >>> >>> I had a post face lift S3 225BHP model. I leased it for 18 months and >>> over a 10 month period it broke down 4 times with engine management >>> failures. That is all the warning lights came on and car would not do >>> more than 20mph - very scary on the outside lane of a motorway in the >>> wet. Audi had the car for over 6 weeks trying to find the fault but >>> kept returning the car as No Fault Found. That was even after Audi >>> sent on of their ADTs (Audi Dedicated Technicians) out to the last >>> breakdown to diagnose the fault at the roadside. All they could do was >>> reset the engine management system. I cancelled the lease in the end >>> because neither my wife or I could trust the car and AUDI paid me some >>> compensation for the 6 weeks off the road. >>> >>> I had liitle faith in Audi or their dealers to actually understand >>> these cars. Remember that Which said the TT 225BHP was the most >>> unreliable car they ever tested with a one in four chance of a >>> breakdown in the first year. >>> >>> The performance was good but the handling was a bit dead with very >>> little feedback through the steering. It was hard to feel the car >>> through bends which didn't inspire confidence. >>> >>> I tried an 3.0 X-type Jag after that but it brokedown on the test >>> drive!! I used to drive Alfas and went back to them as they proved to >>> be more reliable and much more fun to drive. I drive around 40,000 >>> miles a year. >> > |
Re: S3
Yeah, the audi technology is pretty complex and it would be hard to
troubleshoot a lemon. Unfortunately you seem to be turning to all the wrong marquis. If it's reliability you want, then Toyota/Lexus, Honda and Suberu have better reputations than the Germans. And can't even be compared to the American and British. "Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message news:m8v8t1d6mqgcqaq8euaa4gsnjcsvaiktt0@4ax.com... > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:14:56 +1100, "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>Hehe, you thought Audi was unreliable and then you tried Jag? >> >>lol > > The diiference was that at least Jag knew what the problem was > staright away, a water leak, whereas Audi could could not diagnose the > problem after 10 months. The S3 was so complicated that it was > defeating their own technicians. >> >> >>"Paul Norris" <paul.pn@virgin.net> wrote in message >>news:g04cs1luftvbunek4j6eb0vrag83pgcbtj@4ax.com. .. >>> On 11 Jan 2006 08:46:31 -0800, dan_martland@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >>> >>>>vw-stuff wrote: >>>>> Hello >>>>> Looking to change by VW Golf GTi for an Audi S3. Would really >>>>> appreciate >>>>> your comments on the S3 regarding reliability/performance etc. >>>>> Is there really a difference between the 210 and 225bhp models? >>>>> >>>>> TIA >>>> >>>>Hello, >>>> >>>>I have just sold my MY2000 S3 last week. There are three 'types' of S3 >>>>available: >>>>210bhp Pre-Face Lift, >>>>210bhp Post-Face Lift, and >>>>225bhp Post-Face Lift. >>>> >>>>The face lift involved primarily a change to the lights and the dash >>>>board of the car IIRC. My car was 210bhp and pre-face lift. My >>>>experience with the driver community for S3s is that there is very >>>>little difference between the 210bhp and 225bhp cars in the real world. >>>> The history behind the cars is that Audi wanted to make the TT >>>>'faster' than the S3 and so originally the TT had 225bhp whilst the S3 >>>>had 210bhp. >>>> >>>>I bought my car at 6 months old, with 2k miles on the clock. Over the >>>>5 years or so that I had the car I upped the mileage to 95k miles >>>>(mostly motorway) with no reliability issues. Just make sure that the >>>>car has a full service history (from an Audi dealership or independent >>>>specialist) and has had the cam belt changed at 80k miles if >>>>applicable. >>>> >>>>The standard S3 is not as quick as some other hot hatches or an Impreza >>>>WRX, but is IMO the most refined hot hatch available. It blends >>>>performance, luxury, practicality and prestige with discrete styling. >>>> >>>>If you want the S3 to really be a performance car then you need to get >>>>it modified. There is a thriving modification community for the S3 >>>>(and other VAG cars with similar mechanicals). Over the life time of >>>>my car I spent £4500 on having it enhanced, with an engine remap, >>>>sports exhaust, uprated brakes and suspension. These mods raised the >>>>car from excellent to outstanding. I had my car modified when it had >>>>55k miles on the clock and there was no reduction in reliability and no >>>>reduction in motorway fuel economy. I can certainly recommend the >>>>modification route if you have the funds to do it correctly - the best >>>>improvements to the car were suspension and brakes (which were also the >>>>most costly changes too). >>>> >>>>As an upgrade from a Golf GTi, I think the S3 would be hard to beat. >>>>It takes all the qualities of the GTi and turns the dial up to 10, >>>>whilst actually being a more discrete car to own as only enthusiasts >>>>usually recognise it. >>>> >>>>I would suggest checking out www.audi-sport.net as a thriving Audi >>>>community. >>>> >>>>Cheers >>>>Dan >>> >>> I had a post face lift S3 225BHP model. I leased it for 18 months and >>> over a 10 month period it broke down 4 times with engine management >>> failures. That is all the warning lights came on and car would not do >>> more than 20mph - very scary on the outside lane of a motorway in the >>> wet. Audi had the car for over 6 weeks trying to find the fault but >>> kept returning the car as No Fault Found. That was even after Audi >>> sent on of their ADTs (Audi Dedicated Technicians) out to the last >>> breakdown to diagnose the fault at the roadside. All they could do was >>> reset the engine management system. I cancelled the lease in the end >>> because neither my wife or I could trust the car and AUDI paid me some >>> compensation for the 6 weeks off the road. >>> >>> I had liitle faith in Audi or their dealers to actually understand >>> these cars. Remember that Which said the TT 225BHP was the most >>> unreliable car they ever tested with a one in four chance of a >>> breakdown in the first year. >>> >>> The performance was good but the handling was a bit dead with very >>> little feedback through the steering. It was hard to feel the car >>> through bends which didn't inspire confidence. >>> >>> I tried an 3.0 X-type Jag after that but it brokedown on the test >>> drive!! I used to drive Alfas and went back to them as they proved to >>> be more reliable and much more fun to drive. I drive around 40,000 >>> miles a year. >> > |
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