simonh

Hi

Looking through the old threads i know fuel pumps/pump noise has been
done several times, I'd just like a bit of extra info please! I own a
1996 A4 1.8 petrol, over the last week or two there has been a low
pitched whine coming from the back of the car, same area as the fuel
tank but it does not start immediatly, it usually kicks in after about
3 miles. What i have not seen on any other of the threads is the fact
that when i brake the pitch of the whine drops but the voulme stays the
same (this is the same even when stationary). whilst trying to trace
the source of the noise earlier today, i heard quite a loud hissing
coming from the filler cap whilst the engin was running (yet there was
no smell of petrol so i dont think vapour is actually escaping), as
soon as the car was switced off this stopped however, over the last few
days i have been hearing a gurgling sound from the tank when i have
stopped and got out of the car, this lasts for several seconds then
stops. finally the petrol guage has started playing up also. if i fill
the tank right up the guage only shows 2 thirds full and then still
with a third to half of a tank left its showing empty with the petrol
warning light on! anyone got any ideas if this matches the what seems
to be quite common problem of fuel pump noise!?!?!

Steve Sears

Simon,
There may be problems with your fuel tank vent - the hissing would be air
entering the tank (thus no fumes on the outside). When you hear the
"gurgling" noise, if you open the filler cap does the noise stop
immediately? Also, are you sure that the tank is full, or is it just when
the trigger on the nozzle clicks off (too much backpressure - fuel tank vent
not working properly).
The change in pitch of the pump may be the change in system voltage due to
the brake lights, as the pump slows down. The noise may not start up
immediately because the pump is not operating in a vacuum (tank at
atmospheric pressure), but as the pressure drops the pump has to work
harder.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - occasionally with loud "bees" in the tank
1980 Audi 5k - quiet "bees" on passenger side
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - engine sounds like a bee
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"simonh" <simon.hilton1@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Looking through the old threads i know fuel pumps/pump noise has been
> done several times, I'd just like a bit of extra info please! I own a
> 1996 A4 1.8 petrol, over the last week or two there has been a low
> pitched whine coming from the back of the car, same area as the fuel
> tank but it does not start immediatly, it usually kicks in after about
> 3 miles. What i have not seen on any other of the threads is the fact
> that when i brake the pitch of the whine drops but the voulme stays the
> same (this is the same even when stationary). whilst trying to trace
> the source of the noise earlier today, i heard quite a loud hissing
> coming from the filler cap whilst the engin was running (yet there was
> no smell of petrol so i dont think vapour is actually escaping), as
> soon as the car was switced off this stopped however, over the last few
> days i have been hearing a gurgling sound from the tank when i have
> stopped and got out of the car, this lasts for several seconds then
> stops. finally the petrol guage has started playing up also. if i fill
> the tank right up the guage only shows 2 thirds full and then still
> with a third to half of a tank left its showing empty with the petrol
> warning light on! anyone got any ideas if this matches the what seems
> to be quite common problem of fuel pump noise!?!?!
>

Steve Sears

Simon,
There may be problems with your fuel tank vent - the hissing would be air
entering the tank (thus no fumes on the outside). When you hear the
"gurgling" noise, if you open the filler cap does the noise stop
immediately? Also, are you sure that the tank is full, or is it just when
the trigger on the nozzle clicks off (too much backpressure - fuel tank vent
not working properly).
The change in pitch of the pump may be the change in system voltage due to
the brake lights, as the pump slows down. The noise may not start up
immediately because the pump is not operating in a vacuum (tank at
atmospheric pressure), but as the pressure drops the pump has to work
harder.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - occasionally with loud "bees" in the tank
1980 Audi 5k - quiet "bees" on passenger side
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - engine sounds like a bee
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"simonh" <simon.hilton1@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Looking through the old threads i know fuel pumps/pump noise has been
> done several times, I'd just like a bit of extra info please! I own a
> 1996 A4 1.8 petrol, over the last week or two there has been a low
> pitched whine coming from the back of the car, same area as the fuel
> tank but it does not start immediatly, it usually kicks in after about
> 3 miles. What i have not seen on any other of the threads is the fact
> that when i brake the pitch of the whine drops but the voulme stays the
> same (this is the same even when stationary). whilst trying to trace
> the source of the noise earlier today, i heard quite a loud hissing
> coming from the filler cap whilst the engin was running (yet there was
> no smell of petrol so i dont think vapour is actually escaping), as
> soon as the car was switced off this stopped however, over the last few
> days i have been hearing a gurgling sound from the tank when i have
> stopped and got out of the car, this lasts for several seconds then
> stops. finally the petrol guage has started playing up also. if i fill
> the tank right up the guage only shows 2 thirds full and then still
> with a third to half of a tank left its showing empty with the petrol
> warning light on! anyone got any ideas if this matches the what seems
> to be quite common problem of fuel pump noise!?!?!
>

Steve Sears

Simon,
There may be problems with your fuel tank vent - the hissing would be air
entering the tank (thus no fumes on the outside). When you hear the
"gurgling" noise, if you open the filler cap does the noise stop
immediately? Also, are you sure that the tank is full, or is it just when
the trigger on the nozzle clicks off (too much backpressure - fuel tank vent
not working properly).
The change in pitch of the pump may be the change in system voltage due to
the brake lights, as the pump slows down. The noise may not start up
immediately because the pump is not operating in a vacuum (tank at
atmospheric pressure), but as the pressure drops the pump has to work
harder.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - occasionally with loud "bees" in the tank
1980 Audi 5k - quiet "bees" on passenger side
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - engine sounds like a bee
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"simonh" <simon.hilton1@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:1140301273.355170.162950@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi
>
> Looking through the old threads i know fuel pumps/pump noise has been
> done several times, I'd just like a bit of extra info please! I own a
> 1996 A4 1.8 petrol, over the last week or two there has been a low
> pitched whine coming from the back of the car, same area as the fuel
> tank but it does not start immediatly, it usually kicks in after about
> 3 miles. What i have not seen on any other of the threads is the fact
> that when i brake the pitch of the whine drops but the voulme stays the
> same (this is the same even when stationary). whilst trying to trace
> the source of the noise earlier today, i heard quite a loud hissing
> coming from the filler cap whilst the engin was running (yet there was
> no smell of petrol so i dont think vapour is actually escaping), as
> soon as the car was switced off this stopped however, over the last few
> days i have been hearing a gurgling sound from the tank when i have
> stopped and got out of the car, this lasts for several seconds then
> stops. finally the petrol guage has started playing up also. if i fill
> the tank right up the guage only shows 2 thirds full and then still
> with a third to half of a tank left its showing empty with the petrol
> warning light on! anyone got any ideas if this matches the what seems
> to be quite common problem of fuel pump noise!?!?!
>

simonh

Steve

Thanks for that, £40 to the local garage later and they have sorted
it! you were spot on! much appreciated!

Regards Simon

simonh

Steve

Thanks for that, £40 to the local garage later and they have sorted
it! you were spot on! much appreciated!

Regards Simon

simonh

Steve

Thanks for that, £40 to the local garage later and they have sorted
it! you were spot on! much appreciated!

Regards Simon