Quattro Expense
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"Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
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> "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I graduated from a University
>
> Wow! Should we be in awe of you? It's a shame that your arguments,
> punctuation and grammar, seem like those of a ten year old.
>
> --
> Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with
'bellfamily')
this is funny coming from you I don't think you'll win any writing contest.
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> In message <40060a38$0$36156$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net>
> "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I graduated from a University
>
> Wow! Should we be in awe of you? It's a shame that your arguments,
> punctuation and grammar, seem like those of a ten year old.
>
> --
> Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with
'bellfamily')
this is funny coming from you I don't think you'll win any writing contest.
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"JPF" <frickjphasgrownwearyofspam@noemail.net> wrote in message
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> 'Scuse me, but I may "no" something on the subject.
> First and foremost, you're a ing idiot.
>
> (Sorry, been away!)
>
> If your tires vary in diameter, there would be a differential in
> circumference, would there not? Say, what type of device on a car
> would tolerate a differential in circumference? What do they call
> those things? The name escapes me, but they're located at the front,
> rear, and centre of an AWD vehicle. They magically tolerate a
> differential in tire size.
> Aw, , I don't no, but there's a name for it.
>
> To the guy that started this debacle:
> Get a grip, buck up, and put a tire on it already. 14K off a tire
> isn't going to grenade a car. Let it go. If you feel better, buy
> five new tires.
>
what are you talking about have you ever tried to put together a coherent
sentence?? please try.
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> 'Scuse me, but I may "no" something on the subject.
> First and foremost, you're a ing idiot.
>
> (Sorry, been away!)
>
> If your tires vary in diameter, there would be a differential in
> circumference, would there not? Say, what type of device on a car
> would tolerate a differential in circumference? What do they call
> those things? The name escapes me, but they're located at the front,
> rear, and centre of an AWD vehicle. They magically tolerate a
> differential in tire size.
> Aw, , I don't no, but there's a name for it.
>
> To the guy that started this debacle:
> Get a grip, buck up, and put a tire on it already. 14K off a tire
> isn't going to grenade a car. Let it go. If you feel better, buy
> five new tires.
>
what are you talking about have you ever tried to put together a coherent
sentence?? please try.
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"Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
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> "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > silly sweeping statements)
>
> > where here in S-OH there are 2 VW and 2 Audi/Porsche. and 6 Toyota
> > dealerships
>
> And that means exactly what to me?
>
> Parochial attitude you have there.
>
> H1K
>
just point out the same useless information you gave to me.
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> "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > silly sweeping statements)
>
> > where here in S-OH there are 2 VW and 2 Audi/Porsche. and 6 Toyota
> > dealerships
>
> And that means exactly what to me?
>
> Parochial attitude you have there.
>
> H1K
>
just point out the same useless information you gave to me.
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On 09 Jan 2004 13:06:25 GMT, davplac@aol.comPirate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:
>Tha Ghee writes:
>
>>Ohio and 4x4s, and performance vehicles cost more for oil changes.
>
>Then I'd move the hell away from Ohio. I *know* they don't cost any more
>anywhere else. Not in New England, PA, NC, GA, et al. Number one thing to
>remember, twit, is that Quattro is NOT a 4 x 4. It is an awd, big difference.
>You are easily led down the wrong paths, I'm afraid. Have you ever considered
>buying a bridge. I have a wonderful one for you if you want to buy it.
I live in Ohio, and have never, ever been charged more for an oil
change because of quattro. I dunno what this guy is doing to get
charged more...maybe he is behaving like this...
Elroy
2000 S4
<SNIP>
>
>
>Dave
>
>http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html
>
>
wrote:
>Tha Ghee writes:
>
>>Ohio and 4x4s, and performance vehicles cost more for oil changes.
>
>Then I'd move the hell away from Ohio. I *know* they don't cost any more
>anywhere else. Not in New England, PA, NC, GA, et al. Number one thing to
>remember, twit, is that Quattro is NOT a 4 x 4. It is an awd, big difference.
>You are easily led down the wrong paths, I'm afraid. Have you ever considered
>buying a bridge. I have a wonderful one for you if you want to buy it.
I live in Ohio, and have never, ever been charged more for an oil
change because of quattro. I dunno what this guy is doing to get
charged more...maybe he is behaving like this...
Elroy
2000 S4
<SNIP>
>
>
>Dave
>
>http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html
>
>
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 04:48:22 -0500, "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
>news:20040109080625.03858.00002888@mb-m07.aol.com...
>> Tha Ghee writes:
>>
>> >Ohio and 4x4s, and performance vehicles cost more for oil changes.
>>
>> Then I'd move the hell away from Ohio. I *know* they don't cost any more
>> anywhere else. Not in New England, PA, NC, GA, et al. Number one thing
>to
>> remember, twit, is that Quattro is NOT a 4 x 4. It is an awd, big
>difference.
>> You are easily led down the wrong paths, I'm afraid. Have you ever
>considered
>> buying a bridge. I have a wonderful one for you if you want to buy it.
>>
>> ok so 20
>> >people giving testimonies mean it's bulletproof I doubt that, it's a
>manuf.
>> >piece it will fall apart.
>>
>> Sure it will fal apart. At some point it will need maintenance. But not
>for
>> 150,000 miles or so, if even then. Read my lips, twit: I have never
>heard of
>> Quattro failing, NEVER, and I've been driving them since 1985.
>>
>> I'll get my friends Max and will see who wins.
>>
>> Wins what? Ice racing? Come on up. The ice is thick. How about $10 for
>ever
>> 1/10 of a second? Sound good? I take it Max is the fool that filled
>your pea
>> brain with all this sillyness about how bad Quattro is?
>>
>> >doubt the last part but you know all....
>>
>> Well, it's obvious I know a helluva lot more than you. Perhaps you too
>can
>> educate yourself. Hint: get rid of Max.
>>
>> Toodles.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html
>>
>trust me we wouldn't want you in OH, and I'm not from here. in my few
>years, I've forgotten more than you know, you didn't say ice racing why are
>you changing the parameters scared. if you goggle you'll see plenty of post
>where the Quatt. goes out I guess your lucky not everyone one is. your dumb
>any thing that's made by man will fall apart, not that's manuf. is made to
>last forever, but I guess you know that, since you all knowing...guess not.
Please, for the love of Pete, don't try to speak for the entire state.
I'd much rather have Dave here than you.
Elroy
2000 S4
wrote:
>"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
>news:20040109080625.03858.00002888@mb-m07.aol.com...
>> Tha Ghee writes:
>>
>> >Ohio and 4x4s, and performance vehicles cost more for oil changes.
>>
>> Then I'd move the hell away from Ohio. I *know* they don't cost any more
>> anywhere else. Not in New England, PA, NC, GA, et al. Number one thing
>to
>> remember, twit, is that Quattro is NOT a 4 x 4. It is an awd, big
>difference.
>> You are easily led down the wrong paths, I'm afraid. Have you ever
>considered
>> buying a bridge. I have a wonderful one for you if you want to buy it.
>>
>> ok so 20
>> >people giving testimonies mean it's bulletproof I doubt that, it's a
>manuf.
>> >piece it will fall apart.
>>
>> Sure it will fal apart. At some point it will need maintenance. But not
>for
>> 150,000 miles or so, if even then. Read my lips, twit: I have never
>heard of
>> Quattro failing, NEVER, and I've been driving them since 1985.
>>
>> I'll get my friends Max and will see who wins.
>>
>> Wins what? Ice racing? Come on up. The ice is thick. How about $10 for
>ever
>> 1/10 of a second? Sound good? I take it Max is the fool that filled
>your pea
>> brain with all this sillyness about how bad Quattro is?
>>
>> >doubt the last part but you know all....
>>
>> Well, it's obvious I know a helluva lot more than you. Perhaps you too
>can
>> educate yourself. Hint: get rid of Max.
>>
>> Toodles.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html
>>
>trust me we wouldn't want you in OH, and I'm not from here. in my few
>years, I've forgotten more than you know, you didn't say ice racing why are
>you changing the parameters scared. if you goggle you'll see plenty of post
>where the Quatt. goes out I guess your lucky not everyone one is. your dumb
>any thing that's made by man will fall apart, not that's manuf. is made to
>last forever, but I guess you know that, since you all knowing...guess not.
Please, for the love of Pete, don't try to speak for the entire state.
I'd much rather have Dave here than you.
Elroy
2000 S4
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"Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:3c2d1e714c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
> > In message <40060a38$0$36156$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net>
> > "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I graduated from a University
> >
> > Wow! Should we be in awe of you? It's a shame that your arguments,
> > punctuation and grammar, seem like those of a ten year old.
>
> this is funny coming from you I don't think you'll win any writing contest.
I wouldn't expect to - my degree is in engineering. However, perhaps
you would like to give me the benefit of your great expertise in the
English language and point out where I could have made improvements in
what I wrote above.
However, perhaps you might wish to remove the plank from your eye before
helping me with the speck in mine, by correcting your contribution!
Hint: Unless you are from the e e cummins school, it is usual practice
to begin a sentence with a capital letter. Also, your 'sentence' would
be easier to read if there was some form of punctuation betweeen the
words 'you' and 'I'.
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"Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
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> > In message <40060a38$0$36156$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net>
> > "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I graduated from a University
> >
> > Wow! Should we be in awe of you? It's a shame that your arguments,
> > punctuation and grammar, seem like those of a ten year old.
>
> this is funny coming from you I don't think you'll win any writing contest.
I wouldn't expect to - my degree is in engineering. However, perhaps
you would like to give me the benefit of your great expertise in the
English language and point out where I could have made improvements in
what I wrote above.
However, perhaps you might wish to remove the plank from your eye before
helping me with the speck in mine, by correcting your contribution!
Hint: Unless you are from the e e cummins school, it is usual practice
to begin a sentence with a capital letter. Also, your 'sentence' would
be easier to read if there was some form of punctuation betweeen the
words 'you' and 'I'.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
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"C.R. Krieger" <warp2_shadowMAPS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:40060b05$0$12823$a04e5680@nnrp.fuse.net...
> >
> > if you knew anything about cars you know that if you have a full time
AWD
> > the tires can't deviate more than 1/4".
>
> Ummm; sure. Whatever you say.
>
> > yes autocrossers also use this but
> > so do a lot of AWD cars, but you should know that.
>
> Gee; you'd think that in over 10 years of teaching driving schools for the
> BMW and Audi QUATTRO clubs, I'd have run into (or even heard of)
*somebody*
> who shaved his tires to size ... but I haven't.
>
> BTW, want to tell us all you know about AWD differentials? Start with how
> many Audi Quattro differentials *you've* ever seen *fail* (as I seem to
> recall that was the original topic here). Of those, how many failed
because
> the tire diameters diverged by more than your 1/4" benchmark? When you
> determine that number, divide any whole number by it and tell us what
> message you see on your computer screen.
>
> (Hint: "Divide overflow")
> --
> C.R. Krieger
> (Been there; couldn't break that)
>
>
Here, in the UK, there were instances of differential failure in AWD Volvos,
IIRC. The failure was, officially at least, blamed on different tyre sizes,
due to not changing all 4 tyres at the same time, AFAIK.
Different set-up?
Anybody able to confirm? Or is my memory failing even more?
--
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"Doug Ramage" <namxat666@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Here, in the UK, there were instances of differential failure in AWD
> Volvos, IIRC. The failure was, officially at least, blamed on
> different tyre sizes, due to not changing all 4 tyres at the same
> time, AFAIK.
>
> Different set-up?
Having seen an AWD Volvo reverse on gravel, on full lock, with the
inside rear wheel continually spinning and throwing up a barrage of
stones, I have to believe that the technology is very different to the
current quattro system.
Neither of my quattro-equipped cars have behaved like that Volvo.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
"Doug Ramage" <namxat666@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Here, in the UK, there were instances of differential failure in AWD
> Volvos, IIRC. The failure was, officially at least, blamed on
> different tyre sizes, due to not changing all 4 tyres at the same
> time, AFAIK.
>
> Different set-up?
Having seen an AWD Volvo reverse on gravel, on full lock, with the
inside rear wheel continually spinning and throwing up a barrage of
stones, I have to believe that the technology is very different to the
current quattro system.
Neither of my quattro-equipped cars have behaved like that Volvo.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
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"Doug Ramage" <namxat666@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "C.R. Krieger" <warp2_shadowMAPS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:40060b05$0$12823$a04e5680@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > >
> > > if you knew anything about cars you know that if you have a full time
> AWD
> > > the tires can't deviate more than 1/4".
> >
> > Ummm; sure. Whatever you say.
> >
> > > yes autocrossers also use this but
> > > so do a lot of AWD cars, but you should know that.
> >
> > Gee; you'd think that in over 10 years of teaching driving schools for
the
> > BMW and Audi QUATTRO clubs, I'd have run into (or even heard of)
> *somebody*
> > who shaved his tires to size ... but I haven't.
> >
> > BTW, want to tell us all you know about AWD differentials? Start with
how
> > many Audi Quattro differentials *you've* ever seen *fail* (as I seem to
> > recall that was the original topic here). Of those, how many failed
> because
> > the tire diameters diverged by more than your 1/4" benchmark? When you
> > determine that number, divide any whole number by it and tell us what
> > message you see on your computer screen.
> >
> > (Hint: "Divide overflow")
> Here, in the UK, there were instances of differential failure in AWD
Volvos,
> IIRC. The failure was, officially at least, blamed on different tyre
sizes,
> due to not changing all 4 tyres at the same time, AFAIK.
>
> Different set-up?
AFAIK, yes - the problem first turned-up on the FWD "smoke, smoke, and more
smoke from the front" hot estates and was a definite recommendation for the
T5 (a friend of mine had one)
Subject to failing memory, I think they stated a maximum difference of only
1.5mm - particularly unrealistic in Basingstoke (UK joke - to the casual
visitor, the town appears to consist of roundabouts connected by not a great
deal else). With four tyres only lasting three months, he elected to swap
the car..
AFAIK, Volvo now use Haldex, just like Audi.
H1K
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> "C.R. Krieger" <warp2_shadowMAPS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:40080ec4$0$40210$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net. ..
> > "Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:40060b05$0$12823$a04e5680@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > >
> > > if you knew anything about cars you know that if you have a full time
> AWD
> > > the tires can't deviate more than 1/4".
> >
> > Ummm; sure. Whatever you say.
> >
> > > yes autocrossers also use this but
> > > so do a lot of AWD cars, but you should know that.
> >
> > Gee; you'd think that in over 10 years of teaching driving schools for
the
> > BMW and Audi QUATTRO clubs, I'd have run into (or even heard of)
> *somebody*
> > who shaved his tires to size ... but I haven't.
> >
> > BTW, want to tell us all you know about AWD differentials? Start with
how
> > many Audi Quattro differentials *you've* ever seen *fail* (as I seem to
> > recall that was the original topic here). Of those, how many failed
> because
> > the tire diameters diverged by more than your 1/4" benchmark? When you
> > determine that number, divide any whole number by it and tell us what
> > message you see on your computer screen.
> >
> > (Hint: "Divide overflow")
> Here, in the UK, there were instances of differential failure in AWD
Volvos,
> IIRC. The failure was, officially at least, blamed on different tyre
sizes,
> due to not changing all 4 tyres at the same time, AFAIK.
>
> Different set-up?
AFAIK, yes - the problem first turned-up on the FWD "smoke, smoke, and more
smoke from the front" hot estates and was a definite recommendation for the
T5 (a friend of mine had one)
Subject to failing memory, I think they stated a maximum difference of only
1.5mm - particularly unrealistic in Basingstoke (UK joke - to the casual
visitor, the town appears to consist of roundabouts connected by not a great
deal else). With four tyres only lasting three months, he elected to swap
the car..
AFAIK, Volvo now use Haldex, just like Audi.
H1K
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:24:54 -0600, "C.R. Krieger"
<warp2_shadowMAPS@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:40060b05$0$12823$a04e5680@nnrp.fuse.net...
> >
>> if you knew anything about cars you know that if you have a full time AWD
>> the tires can't deviate more than 1/4".
>
>Ummm; sure. Whatever you say.
>
>> yes autocrossers also use this but
>> so do a lot of AWD cars, but you should know that.
>
>Gee; you'd think that in over 10 years of teaching driving schools for the
>BMW and Audi QUATTRO clubs, I'd have run into (or even heard of) *somebody*
>who shaved his tires to size ... but I haven't.
>
>BTW, want to tell us all you know about AWD differentials? Start with how
>many Audi Quattro differentials *you've* ever seen *fail* (as I seem to
>recall that was the original topic here). Of those, how many failed because
>the tire diameters diverged by more than your 1/4" benchmark? When you
>determine that number, divide any whole number by it and tell us what
>message you see on your computer screen.
>
>(Hint: "Divide overflow")
lol
I still think you folks are giving this nitwit WAY more time than he was ever
worth...
/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd (don't feed the trolls - or the nitwits
<warp2_shadowMAPS@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:40060b05$0$12823$a04e5680@nnrp.fuse.net...
> >
>> if you knew anything about cars you know that if you have a full time AWD
>> the tires can't deviate more than 1/4".
>
>Ummm; sure. Whatever you say.
>
>> yes autocrossers also use this but
>> so do a lot of AWD cars, but you should know that.
>
>Gee; you'd think that in over 10 years of teaching driving schools for the
>BMW and Audi QUATTRO clubs, I'd have run into (or even heard of) *somebody*
>who shaved his tires to size ... but I haven't.
>
>BTW, want to tell us all you know about AWD differentials? Start with how
>many Audi Quattro differentials *you've* ever seen *fail* (as I seem to
>recall that was the original topic here). Of those, how many failed because
>the tire diameters diverged by more than your 1/4" benchmark? When you
>determine that number, divide any whole number by it and tell us what
>message you see on your computer screen.
>
>(Hint: "Divide overflow")
lol
I still think you folks are giving this nitwit WAY more time than he was ever
worth...
/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd (don't feed the trolls - or the nitwits



