Keys
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Re: Keys
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
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>A new Audi came with two kinds of keys, metal ones which fold into a
> remote control fob and a plastic service key.
>
> Can someone explain the intended functionality of the plastic service key?
>
> I find I can use the plastic key to unlock a vehicle which has its alarm
> set and without sounding the alarm - but then the key will not start the
> vehicle. But if the alarm has not been set, then the plastic key can
> start the vehicle.
>
> Does my plastic key do everything correctly?
>
> Are there any electronic components (e.g. an RFI chip) in the key which
> needs to be married to the vehicle or is its manufacture just one of
> copying the pattern? Can extra plastic service keys be simply mailed to
> me and not need to be fitted, installed or trained to the vehicle?
>
> Tony
the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it wont
lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
dj
#12
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Re: Keys
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
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>A new Audi came with two kinds of keys, metal ones which fold into a
> remote control fob and a plastic service key.
>
> Can someone explain the intended functionality of the plastic service key?
>
> I find I can use the plastic key to unlock a vehicle which has its alarm
> set and without sounding the alarm - but then the key will not start the
> vehicle. But if the alarm has not been set, then the plastic key can
> start the vehicle.
>
> Does my plastic key do everything correctly?
>
> Are there any electronic components (e.g. an RFI chip) in the key which
> needs to be married to the vehicle or is its manufacture just one of
> copying the pattern? Can extra plastic service keys be simply mailed to
> me and not need to be fitted, installed or trained to the vehicle?
>
> Tony
the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it wont
lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
dj
#13
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Re: Keys
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
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>A new Audi came with two kinds of keys, metal ones which fold into a
> remote control fob and a plastic service key.
>
> Can someone explain the intended functionality of the plastic service key?
>
> I find I can use the plastic key to unlock a vehicle which has its alarm
> set and without sounding the alarm - but then the key will not start the
> vehicle. But if the alarm has not been set, then the plastic key can
> start the vehicle.
>
> Does my plastic key do everything correctly?
>
> Are there any electronic components (e.g. an RFI chip) in the key which
> needs to be married to the vehicle or is its manufacture just one of
> copying the pattern? Can extra plastic service keys be simply mailed to
> me and not need to be fitted, installed or trained to the vehicle?
>
> Tony
the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it wont
lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
dj
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Re: Keys
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC), "Glittery Gary"
<OnThe@Upbtinternet.com> wrote:
> the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
> locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it wont
> lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
That is odd. Mine unlocks the driver's door (the only door with a key
operated lock) as well as the glove box lock and ignition/steering lock,
just fine.
Maybe try that again with a little more torque?
Tony
<OnThe@Upbtinternet.com> wrote:
> the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
> locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it wont
> lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
That is odd. Mine unlocks the driver's door (the only door with a key
operated lock) as well as the glove box lock and ignition/steering lock,
just fine.
Maybe try that again with a little more torque?
Tony
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Re: Keys
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC), "Glittery Gary"
<OnThe@Upbtinternet.com> wrote:
> the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
> locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it wont
> lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
That is odd. Mine unlocks the driver's door (the only door with a key
operated lock) as well as the glove box lock and ignition/steering lock,
just fine.
Maybe try that again with a little more torque?
Tony
<OnThe@Upbtinternet.com> wrote:
> the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
> locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it wont
> lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
That is odd. Mine unlocks the driver's door (the only door with a key
operated lock) as well as the glove box lock and ignition/steering lock,
just fine.
Maybe try that again with a little more torque?
Tony
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Re: Keys
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC), "Glittery Gary"
<OnThe@Upbtinternet.com> wrote:
> the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
> locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it wont
> lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
That is odd. Mine unlocks the driver's door (the only door with a key
operated lock) as well as the glove box lock and ignition/steering lock,
just fine.
Maybe try that again with a little more torque?
Tony
<OnThe@Upbtinternet.com> wrote:
> the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
> locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it wont
> lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
That is odd. Mine unlocks the driver's door (the only door with a key
operated lock) as well as the glove box lock and ignition/steering lock,
just fine.
Maybe try that again with a little more torque?
Tony
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Re: Keys
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC), "Glittery Gary"
> <OnThe@Upbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
>> locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it
>> wont
>> lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
>
> That is odd. Mine unlocks the driver's door (the only door with a key
> operated lock) as well as the glove box lock and ignition/steering lock,
> just fine.
>
> Maybe try that again with a little more torque?
>
> Tony
with a little more torque..........yes perhaps it's because it's a smaller
headed jobby, I'll give it a try tomorrow.
dj
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Re: Keys
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC), "Glittery Gary"
> <OnThe@Upbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
>> locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it
>> wont
>> lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
>
> That is odd. Mine unlocks the driver's door (the only door with a key
> operated lock) as well as the glove box lock and ignition/steering lock,
> just fine.
>
> Maybe try that again with a little more torque?
>
> Tony
with a little more torque..........yes perhaps it's because it's a smaller
headed jobby, I'll give it a try tomorrow.
dj
#19
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Re: Keys
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC), "Glittery Gary"
> <OnThe@Upbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> the plastic key, in my manual, is called a Spare key. It says it fits ALL
>> locks on the car. Well I just tried it and yes it fits the locks but it
>> wont
>> lift the drivers door locking ****. So much for a spare.
>
> That is odd. Mine unlocks the driver's door (the only door with a key
> operated lock) as well as the glove box lock and ignition/steering lock,
> just fine.
>
> Maybe try that again with a little more torque?
>
> Tony
with a little more torque..........yes perhaps it's because it's a smaller
headed jobby, I'll give it a try tomorrow.
dj
#20
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Re: Keys
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:36:11 GMT, "Dave" <dave@nobody.com> wrote:
>> Can someone explain the intended functionality of the plastic service key?
>
>I believe it's meant as an emergency key that should have all the
>functionality of the metal keys.
>
>> I find I can use the plastic key to unlock a vehicle which has its alarm
>> set and without sounding the alarm - but then the key will not start the
>> vehicle. But if the alarm has not been set, then the plastic key can
>> start the vehicle.
>
>Again I believe it should unlock and start the vehicle as normal. After
>unlocking the doors you do have a finite amount of time before you can start
>the car. I'm not near my manual at the moment but I can check later.
>
>>
>> Does my plastic key do everything correctly?
>>
>> Are there any electronic components (e.g. an RFI chip) in the key which
>> needs to be married to the vehicle or is its manufacture just one of
>> copying the pattern? Can extra plastic service keys be simply mailed to
>> me and not need to be fitted, installed or trained to the vehicle?
>
>They will need to be coded to the car in order to use them. A dealer usually
>charges 0.5 hours labour for this even though it's a 5-10 minute job. If you
>know someone with VAG-COM then they may be able to do it.
>
>HTH
Not likely...the *ALL PLASTIC* key the OP is referring to has no electronics
of any kind within....
>> Can someone explain the intended functionality of the plastic service key?
>
>I believe it's meant as an emergency key that should have all the
>functionality of the metal keys.
>
>> I find I can use the plastic key to unlock a vehicle which has its alarm
>> set and without sounding the alarm - but then the key will not start the
>> vehicle. But if the alarm has not been set, then the plastic key can
>> start the vehicle.
>
>Again I believe it should unlock and start the vehicle as normal. After
>unlocking the doors you do have a finite amount of time before you can start
>the car. I'm not near my manual at the moment but I can check later.
>
>>
>> Does my plastic key do everything correctly?
>>
>> Are there any electronic components (e.g. an RFI chip) in the key which
>> needs to be married to the vehicle or is its manufacture just one of
>> copying the pattern? Can extra plastic service keys be simply mailed to
>> me and not need to be fitted, installed or trained to the vehicle?
>
>They will need to be coded to the car in order to use them. A dealer usually
>charges 0.5 hours labour for this even though it's a 5-10 minute job. If you
>know someone with VAG-COM then they may be able to do it.
>
>HTH
Not likely...the *ALL PLASTIC* key the OP is referring to has no electronics
of any kind within....