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Steve68s 11-09-2006 01:21 PM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 

"Juan King" <you.ARE.the.weakest.link@good.bye> wrote in message
news:8-qdndX_Qtmw7c7YnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
> <josephsamuels@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162231304.864179.310640@e64g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 2001 B5 S4. The HID xenon headlights were recently stolen.
>> The entire headlight fixtures were completely removed from the car. I
>> would like to replace these with another set of HID headlights, but I
>> don't want them to get stolen again.
>>
>> Are there any security measures I can take to prevent this from
>> happening?

>
> What about getting the outer lenses etched with the VIN number. In the UK,
> anyone can get free etching, usually of all the glass panels, at AutoGlass
> (CarGlass in Europe). They usually etch the registration number, but you
> can ask for the last 10 numbers of your VIN - they don't usually do the
> polycarbonate headlamps, but then I havn't heard anyone in the UK having
> HID headlamps stolen !
>
> Sean
>


Its very simple to remove any etching from glass with a polishing kit &
abrasive compound,

Steve.



daytripper 11-09-2006 05:39 PM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:21:59 -0000, "Steve68s"
<steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Juan King" <you.ARE.the.weakest.link@good.bye> wrote in message
>news:8-qdndX_Qtmw7c7YnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> <josephsamuels@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162231304.864179.310640@e64g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a 2001 B5 S4. The HID xenon headlights were recently stolen.
>>> The entire headlight fixtures were completely removed from the car. I
>>> would like to replace these with another set of HID headlights, but I
>>> don't want them to get stolen again.
>>>
>>> Are there any security measures I can take to prevent this from
>>> happening?

>>
>> What about getting the outer lenses etched with the VIN number. In the UK,
>> anyone can get free etching, usually of all the glass panels, at AutoGlass
>> (CarGlass in Europe). They usually etch the registration number, but you
>> can ask for the last 10 numbers of your VIN - they don't usually do the
>> polycarbonate headlamps, but then I havn't heard anyone in the UK having
>> HID headlamps stolen !
>>
>> Sean
>>

>
>Its very simple to remove any etching from glass with a polishing kit &
>abrasive compound,
>
>Steve.


And frankly, I doubt those that would go through the hassle of extricating
HIDs would give a cr*p about serial numbers...

daytripper 11-09-2006 05:39 PM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:21:59 -0000, "Steve68s"
<steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Juan King" <you.ARE.the.weakest.link@good.bye> wrote in message
>news:8-qdndX_Qtmw7c7YnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> <josephsamuels@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162231304.864179.310640@e64g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a 2001 B5 S4. The HID xenon headlights were recently stolen.
>>> The entire headlight fixtures were completely removed from the car. I
>>> would like to replace these with another set of HID headlights, but I
>>> don't want them to get stolen again.
>>>
>>> Are there any security measures I can take to prevent this from
>>> happening?

>>
>> What about getting the outer lenses etched with the VIN number. In the UK,
>> anyone can get free etching, usually of all the glass panels, at AutoGlass
>> (CarGlass in Europe). They usually etch the registration number, but you
>> can ask for the last 10 numbers of your VIN - they don't usually do the
>> polycarbonate headlamps, but then I havn't heard anyone in the UK having
>> HID headlamps stolen !
>>
>> Sean
>>

>
>Its very simple to remove any etching from glass with a polishing kit &
>abrasive compound,
>
>Steve.


And frankly, I doubt those that would go through the hassle of extricating
HIDs would give a cr*p about serial numbers...

daytripper 11-09-2006 05:39 PM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:21:59 -0000, "Steve68s"
<steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Juan King" <you.ARE.the.weakest.link@good.bye> wrote in message
>news:8-qdndX_Qtmw7c7YnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> <josephsamuels@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162231304.864179.310640@e64g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a 2001 B5 S4. The HID xenon headlights were recently stolen.
>>> The entire headlight fixtures were completely removed from the car. I
>>> would like to replace these with another set of HID headlights, but I
>>> don't want them to get stolen again.
>>>
>>> Are there any security measures I can take to prevent this from
>>> happening?

>>
>> What about getting the outer lenses etched with the VIN number. In the UK,
>> anyone can get free etching, usually of all the glass panels, at AutoGlass
>> (CarGlass in Europe). They usually etch the registration number, but you
>> can ask for the last 10 numbers of your VIN - they don't usually do the
>> polycarbonate headlamps, but then I havn't heard anyone in the UK having
>> HID headlamps stolen !
>>
>> Sean
>>

>
>Its very simple to remove any etching from glass with a polishing kit &
>abrasive compound,
>
>Steve.


And frankly, I doubt those that would go through the hassle of extricating
HIDs would give a cr*p about serial numbers...

daytripper 11-09-2006 05:39 PM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:21:59 -0000, "Steve68s"
<steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Juan King" <you.ARE.the.weakest.link@good.bye> wrote in message
>news:8-qdndX_Qtmw7c7YnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> <josephsamuels@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162231304.864179.310640@e64g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a 2001 B5 S4. The HID xenon headlights were recently stolen.
>>> The entire headlight fixtures were completely removed from the car. I
>>> would like to replace these with another set of HID headlights, but I
>>> don't want them to get stolen again.
>>>
>>> Are there any security measures I can take to prevent this from
>>> happening?

>>
>> What about getting the outer lenses etched with the VIN number. In the UK,
>> anyone can get free etching, usually of all the glass panels, at AutoGlass
>> (CarGlass in Europe). They usually etch the registration number, but you
>> can ask for the last 10 numbers of your VIN - they don't usually do the
>> polycarbonate headlamps, but then I havn't heard anyone in the UK having
>> HID headlamps stolen !
>>
>> Sean
>>

>
>Its very simple to remove any etching from glass with a polishing kit &
>abrasive compound,
>
>Steve.


And frankly, I doubt those that would go through the hassle of extricating
HIDs would give a cr*p about serial numbers...

Juan King 11-14-2006 03:22 AM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 

"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9ve7l25qmhm8f6mdnmu8vm9jdafbo0qgck@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:21:59 -0000, "Steve68s"
> <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Juan King" <you.ARE.the.weakest.link@good.bye> wrote in
>>message
>>news:8-qdndX_Qtmw7c7YnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>> <josephsamuels@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1162231304.864179.310640@e64g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a 2001 B5 S4. The HID xenon headlights were recently
>>>> stolen.
>>>> The entire headlight fixtures were completely removed from
>>>> the car. I
>>>> would like to replace these with another set of HID
>>>> headlights, but I
>>>> don't want them to get stolen again.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any security measures I can take to prevent this
>>>> from
>>>> happening?
>>>
>>> What about getting the outer lenses etched with the VIN
>>> number. In the UK,
>>> anyone can get free etching, usually of all the glass panels,
>>> at AutoGlass
>>> (CarGlass in Europe). They usually etch the registration
>>> number, but you
>>> can ask for the last 10 numbers of your VIN - they don't
>>> usually do the
>>> polycarbonate headlamps, but then I havn't heard anyone in
>>> the UK having
>>> HID headlamps stolen !
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>

>>
>>Its very simple to remove any etching from glass with a
>>polishing kit &
>>abrasive compound,
>>
>>Steve.


That is very true - however, the outer lens of the HID headlamp
(along with virtually all halogen headlamps for the last few
years) is NOT glass. It is actually polycarbonate - any
polishing, partiularly when trying to remove etching, will render
the headlamp useless, because of the fine scratches which you can
not remove. Just ask any motorcyclist how dangerous a scratched
visor is!

> And frankly, I doubt those that would go through the hassle of
> extricating
> HIDs would give a cr*p about serial numbers...


Yes, you may be correct - but my suggestion of etching is merely
another deterrent, in the same way that visible VINs on car
dashboards is a deterrent, the same as DataTag and SmartWater on
motorcycles is only a deterrent, and ultimately car alarms and
immobilisers are a deterrent.

At the end of the day, the most determined of thieves will not be
bothered about ANY kind of security system. It will however,
deter the casual, opportunist thief, who, after eyeballing your
motor and noticing your differing number of security methods,
will probably think twice and move onto an easier target.

The other issue you both failed to answer was that my suggestion
was FREE, in the UK anyway. I don't know if the US car insurers
over the pond support car glass companies with free etching, but
I have noticed our US car owners seemed to be more adept with
Dremel tools, so they could even use that to etch the headlamps
and glass.

Sean




Juan King 11-14-2006 03:22 AM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 

"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9ve7l25qmhm8f6mdnmu8vm9jdafbo0qgck@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:21:59 -0000, "Steve68s"
> <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Juan King" <you.ARE.the.weakest.link@good.bye> wrote in
>>message
>>news:8-qdndX_Qtmw7c7YnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>> <josephsamuels@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1162231304.864179.310640@e64g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a 2001 B5 S4. The HID xenon headlights were recently
>>>> stolen.
>>>> The entire headlight fixtures were completely removed from
>>>> the car. I
>>>> would like to replace these with another set of HID
>>>> headlights, but I
>>>> don't want them to get stolen again.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any security measures I can take to prevent this
>>>> from
>>>> happening?
>>>
>>> What about getting the outer lenses etched with the VIN
>>> number. In the UK,
>>> anyone can get free etching, usually of all the glass panels,
>>> at AutoGlass
>>> (CarGlass in Europe). They usually etch the registration
>>> number, but you
>>> can ask for the last 10 numbers of your VIN - they don't
>>> usually do the
>>> polycarbonate headlamps, but then I havn't heard anyone in
>>> the UK having
>>> HID headlamps stolen !
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>

>>
>>Its very simple to remove any etching from glass with a
>>polishing kit &
>>abrasive compound,
>>
>>Steve.


That is very true - however, the outer lens of the HID headlamp
(along with virtually all halogen headlamps for the last few
years) is NOT glass. It is actually polycarbonate - any
polishing, partiularly when trying to remove etching, will render
the headlamp useless, because of the fine scratches which you can
not remove. Just ask any motorcyclist how dangerous a scratched
visor is!

> And frankly, I doubt those that would go through the hassle of
> extricating
> HIDs would give a cr*p about serial numbers...


Yes, you may be correct - but my suggestion of etching is merely
another deterrent, in the same way that visible VINs on car
dashboards is a deterrent, the same as DataTag and SmartWater on
motorcycles is only a deterrent, and ultimately car alarms and
immobilisers are a deterrent.

At the end of the day, the most determined of thieves will not be
bothered about ANY kind of security system. It will however,
deter the casual, opportunist thief, who, after eyeballing your
motor and noticing your differing number of security methods,
will probably think twice and move onto an easier target.

The other issue you both failed to answer was that my suggestion
was FREE, in the UK anyway. I don't know if the US car insurers
over the pond support car glass companies with free etching, but
I have noticed our US car owners seemed to be more adept with
Dremel tools, so they could even use that to etch the headlamps
and glass.

Sean




Juan King 11-14-2006 03:22 AM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 

"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9ve7l25qmhm8f6mdnmu8vm9jdafbo0qgck@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:21:59 -0000, "Steve68s"
> <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Juan King" <you.ARE.the.weakest.link@good.bye> wrote in
>>message
>>news:8-qdndX_Qtmw7c7YnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>> <josephsamuels@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1162231304.864179.310640@e64g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a 2001 B5 S4. The HID xenon headlights were recently
>>>> stolen.
>>>> The entire headlight fixtures were completely removed from
>>>> the car. I
>>>> would like to replace these with another set of HID
>>>> headlights, but I
>>>> don't want them to get stolen again.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any security measures I can take to prevent this
>>>> from
>>>> happening?
>>>
>>> What about getting the outer lenses etched with the VIN
>>> number. In the UK,
>>> anyone can get free etching, usually of all the glass panels,
>>> at AutoGlass
>>> (CarGlass in Europe). They usually etch the registration
>>> number, but you
>>> can ask for the last 10 numbers of your VIN - they don't
>>> usually do the
>>> polycarbonate headlamps, but then I havn't heard anyone in
>>> the UK having
>>> HID headlamps stolen !
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>

>>
>>Its very simple to remove any etching from glass with a
>>polishing kit &
>>abrasive compound,
>>
>>Steve.


That is very true - however, the outer lens of the HID headlamp
(along with virtually all halogen headlamps for the last few
years) is NOT glass. It is actually polycarbonate - any
polishing, partiularly when trying to remove etching, will render
the headlamp useless, because of the fine scratches which you can
not remove. Just ask any motorcyclist how dangerous a scratched
visor is!

> And frankly, I doubt those that would go through the hassle of
> extricating
> HIDs would give a cr*p about serial numbers...


Yes, you may be correct - but my suggestion of etching is merely
another deterrent, in the same way that visible VINs on car
dashboards is a deterrent, the same as DataTag and SmartWater on
motorcycles is only a deterrent, and ultimately car alarms and
immobilisers are a deterrent.

At the end of the day, the most determined of thieves will not be
bothered about ANY kind of security system. It will however,
deter the casual, opportunist thief, who, after eyeballing your
motor and noticing your differing number of security methods,
will probably think twice and move onto an easier target.

The other issue you both failed to answer was that my suggestion
was FREE, in the UK anyway. I don't know if the US car insurers
over the pond support car glass companies with free etching, but
I have noticed our US car owners seemed to be more adept with
Dremel tools, so they could even use that to etch the headlamps
and glass.

Sean




Juan King 11-14-2006 03:22 AM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 

"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9ve7l25qmhm8f6mdnmu8vm9jdafbo0qgck@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:21:59 -0000, "Steve68s"
> <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Juan King" <you.ARE.the.weakest.link@good.bye> wrote in
>>message
>>news:8-qdndX_Qtmw7c7YnZ2dnUVZ8tqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>> <josephsamuels@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1162231304.864179.310640@e64g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a 2001 B5 S4. The HID xenon headlights were recently
>>>> stolen.
>>>> The entire headlight fixtures were completely removed from
>>>> the car. I
>>>> would like to replace these with another set of HID
>>>> headlights, but I
>>>> don't want them to get stolen again.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any security measures I can take to prevent this
>>>> from
>>>> happening?
>>>
>>> What about getting the outer lenses etched with the VIN
>>> number. In the UK,
>>> anyone can get free etching, usually of all the glass panels,
>>> at AutoGlass
>>> (CarGlass in Europe). They usually etch the registration
>>> number, but you
>>> can ask for the last 10 numbers of your VIN - they don't
>>> usually do the
>>> polycarbonate headlamps, but then I havn't heard anyone in
>>> the UK having
>>> HID headlamps stolen !
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>

>>
>>Its very simple to remove any etching from glass with a
>>polishing kit &
>>abrasive compound,
>>
>>Steve.


That is very true - however, the outer lens of the HID headlamp
(along with virtually all halogen headlamps for the last few
years) is NOT glass. It is actually polycarbonate - any
polishing, partiularly when trying to remove etching, will render
the headlamp useless, because of the fine scratches which you can
not remove. Just ask any motorcyclist how dangerous a scratched
visor is!

> And frankly, I doubt those that would go through the hassle of
> extricating
> HIDs would give a cr*p about serial numbers...


Yes, you may be correct - but my suggestion of etching is merely
another deterrent, in the same way that visible VINs on car
dashboards is a deterrent, the same as DataTag and SmartWater on
motorcycles is only a deterrent, and ultimately car alarms and
immobilisers are a deterrent.

At the end of the day, the most determined of thieves will not be
bothered about ANY kind of security system. It will however,
deter the casual, opportunist thief, who, after eyeballing your
motor and noticing your differing number of security methods,
will probably think twice and move onto an easier target.

The other issue you both failed to answer was that my suggestion
was FREE, in the UK anyway. I don't know if the US car insurers
over the pond support car glass companies with free etching, but
I have noticed our US car owners seemed to be more adept with
Dremel tools, so they could even use that to etch the headlamps
and glass.

Sean




josephsamuels@gmail.com 11-16-2006 02:56 PM

Re: HID Headlight Security
 
Where could i get some stickers for the headlights, or near them, that
would make it look like they have an alarm?



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