Guess What (follow-up)?
#51
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
Wolfgang,
Hear hear.
Piecemeal servicing is getting more common everyday. The more complex the
cars, the more "black boxes" to go wrong. Sometimes there may be a group of
BB's daisy chained together to form a system, and the standard operating
procedure is to replace the most likely failed BB, see if that fixed the
problem, then go for the next, and the next, and the next......sounds alot
like the A8L problem we had here a while back, but it was also the problem I
heard about a certain British SUV company repair policy, too. It's all
across the board. I doubt that servicing Japanese products would make JP
feel all warm and fuzzy inside, either. After having a massive rear brake
replacement (cables, calipers, rotors) on my wife's 2k2 CRV, in which I was
criticized as being neglectful for not bringing in the car for a "brake
inspection" (I "inspected" them when I rotated the tires), I asked for the
rotors back. They forgot and threw them out. I asked for a replacement set
and they said "Oh yeah, we get CRV's and Odysseys in all the time for rear
brake problems, we'll get you a set next week". Inspection, my a$$.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <mille@afm.at> wrote in message
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> JP Roberts wrote:
>
> >I would really like to buy this, but if you read my other posts, you'll
> >realize that it's an Audi "policy" thing not to automatically replace all
> >faulty parts.
>
> Not only Audi.
>
> >To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
> >his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
and
> >ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
when
> >a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
>
> >and I should think no other German
> >manufacturers would dare live up to such preposterous standards.
>
> Check the BMW and/or Merc Newsgroups.
> Or the japanese ones.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Wolfgang
>
> --
> 1999 Audi A6 Avant TDI
Hear hear.
Piecemeal servicing is getting more common everyday. The more complex the
cars, the more "black boxes" to go wrong. Sometimes there may be a group of
BB's daisy chained together to form a system, and the standard operating
procedure is to replace the most likely failed BB, see if that fixed the
problem, then go for the next, and the next, and the next......sounds alot
like the A8L problem we had here a while back, but it was also the problem I
heard about a certain British SUV company repair policy, too. It's all
across the board. I doubt that servicing Japanese products would make JP
feel all warm and fuzzy inside, either. After having a massive rear brake
replacement (cables, calipers, rotors) on my wife's 2k2 CRV, in which I was
criticized as being neglectful for not bringing in the car for a "brake
inspection" (I "inspected" them when I rotated the tires), I asked for the
rotors back. They forgot and threw them out. I asked for a replacement set
and they said "Oh yeah, we get CRV's and Odysseys in all the time for rear
brake problems, we'll get you a set next week". Inspection, my a$$.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <mille@afm.at> wrote in message
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> JP Roberts wrote:
>
> >I would really like to buy this, but if you read my other posts, you'll
> >realize that it's an Audi "policy" thing not to automatically replace all
> >faulty parts.
>
> Not only Audi.
>
> >To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
> >his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
and
> >ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
when
> >a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
>
> >and I should think no other German
> >manufacturers would dare live up to such preposterous standards.
>
> Check the BMW and/or Merc Newsgroups.
> Or the japanese ones.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Wolfgang
>
> --
> 1999 Audi A6 Avant TDI
#52
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
Wolfgang,
Hear hear.
Piecemeal servicing is getting more common everyday. The more complex the
cars, the more "black boxes" to go wrong. Sometimes there may be a group of
BB's daisy chained together to form a system, and the standard operating
procedure is to replace the most likely failed BB, see if that fixed the
problem, then go for the next, and the next, and the next......sounds alot
like the A8L problem we had here a while back, but it was also the problem I
heard about a certain British SUV company repair policy, too. It's all
across the board. I doubt that servicing Japanese products would make JP
feel all warm and fuzzy inside, either. After having a massive rear brake
replacement (cables, calipers, rotors) on my wife's 2k2 CRV, in which I was
criticized as being neglectful for not bringing in the car for a "brake
inspection" (I "inspected" them when I rotated the tires), I asked for the
rotors back. They forgot and threw them out. I asked for a replacement set
and they said "Oh yeah, we get CRV's and Odysseys in all the time for rear
brake problems, we'll get you a set next week". Inspection, my a$$.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <mille@afm.at> wrote in message
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> JP Roberts wrote:
>
> >I would really like to buy this, but if you read my other posts, you'll
> >realize that it's an Audi "policy" thing not to automatically replace all
> >faulty parts.
>
> Not only Audi.
>
> >To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
> >his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
and
> >ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
when
> >a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
>
> >and I should think no other German
> >manufacturers would dare live up to such preposterous standards.
>
> Check the BMW and/or Merc Newsgroups.
> Or the japanese ones.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Wolfgang
>
> --
> 1999 Audi A6 Avant TDI
Hear hear.
Piecemeal servicing is getting more common everyday. The more complex the
cars, the more "black boxes" to go wrong. Sometimes there may be a group of
BB's daisy chained together to form a system, and the standard operating
procedure is to replace the most likely failed BB, see if that fixed the
problem, then go for the next, and the next, and the next......sounds alot
like the A8L problem we had here a while back, but it was also the problem I
heard about a certain British SUV company repair policy, too. It's all
across the board. I doubt that servicing Japanese products would make JP
feel all warm and fuzzy inside, either. After having a massive rear brake
replacement (cables, calipers, rotors) on my wife's 2k2 CRV, in which I was
criticized as being neglectful for not bringing in the car for a "brake
inspection" (I "inspected" them when I rotated the tires), I asked for the
rotors back. They forgot and threw them out. I asked for a replacement set
and they said "Oh yeah, we get CRV's and Odysseys in all the time for rear
brake problems, we'll get you a set next week". Inspection, my a$$.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <mille@afm.at> wrote in message
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> JP Roberts wrote:
>
> >I would really like to buy this, but if you read my other posts, you'll
> >realize that it's an Audi "policy" thing not to automatically replace all
> >faulty parts.
>
> Not only Audi.
>
> >To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
> >his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
and
> >ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
when
> >a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
>
> >and I should think no other German
> >manufacturers would dare live up to such preposterous standards.
>
> Check the BMW and/or Merc Newsgroups.
> Or the japanese ones.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Wolfgang
>
> --
> 1999 Audi A6 Avant TDI
#53
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
JP,
So were they replaced or not?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
the
> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
they
> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>
>
> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> > JP,
> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
> > back
> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their ducks
> > in
> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are indeed
a
> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
> > your
> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
most -
> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
> > parts
> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
> > not).
> > Cheers!
> > Steve Sears
> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> > 1980 Audi 5k
> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> >
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
you're
> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
> >> this
> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
> >> make - read dealer.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
So were they replaced or not?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
the
> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
they
> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>
>
> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> > JP,
> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
> > back
> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their ducks
> > in
> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are indeed
a
> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
> > your
> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
most -
> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
> > parts
> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
> > not).
> > Cheers!
> > Steve Sears
> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> > 1980 Audi 5k
> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> >
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
you're
> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
> >> this
> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
> >> make - read dealer.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#54
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
JP,
So were they replaced or not?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
the
> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
they
> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>
>
> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> > JP,
> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
> > back
> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their ducks
> > in
> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are indeed
a
> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
> > your
> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
most -
> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
> > parts
> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
> > not).
> > Cheers!
> > Steve Sears
> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> > 1980 Audi 5k
> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> >
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
you're
> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
> >> this
> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
> >> make - read dealer.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
So were they replaced or not?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
the
> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
they
> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>
>
> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> > JP,
> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
> > back
> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their ducks
> > in
> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are indeed
a
> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
> > your
> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
most -
> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
> > parts
> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
> > not).
> > Cheers!
> > Steve Sears
> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> > 1980 Audi 5k
> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> >
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
you're
> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
> >> this
> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
> >> make - read dealer.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#55
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Posts: n/a
Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
JP,
So were they replaced or not?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
the
> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
they
> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>
>
> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> > JP,
> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
> > back
> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their ducks
> > in
> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are indeed
a
> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
> > your
> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
most -
> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
> > parts
> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
> > not).
> > Cheers!
> > Steve Sears
> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> > 1980 Audi 5k
> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> >
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
you're
> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
> >> this
> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
> >> make - read dealer.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
So were they replaced or not?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
the
> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
they
> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>
>
> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> > JP,
> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
> > back
> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their ducks
> > in
> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are indeed
a
> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
> > your
> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
most -
> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
> > parts
> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
> > not).
> > Cheers!
> > Steve Sears
> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> > 1980 Audi 5k
> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> >
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
you're
> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
> >> this
> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
> >> make - read dealer.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#56
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Posts: n/a
Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
JP Roberts wrote:
> >
> > In the end, Audi's not much on the hook for this one. The dealer,
> > however, is.
> >
>
> I would really like to buy this, but if you read my other posts,
you'll
> realize that it's an Audi "policy" thing not to automatically replace
all
> faulty parts.
I *have* read your other posts. If the part is not currently causing a
problem, then they should not have to replace it. This is not an
Audi-only thing - they *all* do it.
> To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
> his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but
differently and
> ill-timed coilpack failures.
Again, the policy of not replacing parts that are not currently broken
causes some hassles. Maybe Audi could have sourced all the needed coil
packs all at once. And maybe tequila is suddenly going to pour out of
a faucet at home. Until Audi had a large enough supply, there *just
weren't enough* coil packs to replace four when one was faulty.
> This is something that you will never see when
> a Japanese make is involved
Flat out wrong.
> and I should think no other German
> manufacturers would dare live up to such preposterous standards.
Mercedes and BMW have exactly the same policy.
> I feel it's
> especially disappointing as we are paying dear money for these cars
in the
> belief that they are going to be German-reliable and I have always
know
> Germans to be very serious about whatever they do.
As I have said before, you had better start shopping for a luxury
Japanese make to reduce the strain on your heart.
Where again is this dealer that's not replacing non-faulty parts for
free?
E.P.
#57
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
JP Roberts wrote:
> >
> > In the end, Audi's not much on the hook for this one. The dealer,
> > however, is.
> >
>
> I would really like to buy this, but if you read my other posts,
you'll
> realize that it's an Audi "policy" thing not to automatically replace
all
> faulty parts.
I *have* read your other posts. If the part is not currently causing a
problem, then they should not have to replace it. This is not an
Audi-only thing - they *all* do it.
> To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
> his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but
differently and
> ill-timed coilpack failures.
Again, the policy of not replacing parts that are not currently broken
causes some hassles. Maybe Audi could have sourced all the needed coil
packs all at once. And maybe tequila is suddenly going to pour out of
a faucet at home. Until Audi had a large enough supply, there *just
weren't enough* coil packs to replace four when one was faulty.
> This is something that you will never see when
> a Japanese make is involved
Flat out wrong.
> and I should think no other German
> manufacturers would dare live up to such preposterous standards.
Mercedes and BMW have exactly the same policy.
> I feel it's
> especially disappointing as we are paying dear money for these cars
in the
> belief that they are going to be German-reliable and I have always
know
> Germans to be very serious about whatever they do.
As I have said before, you had better start shopping for a luxury
Japanese make to reduce the strain on your heart.
Where again is this dealer that's not replacing non-faulty parts for
free?
E.P.
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
JP Roberts wrote:
> >
> > In the end, Audi's not much on the hook for this one. The dealer,
> > however, is.
> >
>
> I would really like to buy this, but if you read my other posts,
you'll
> realize that it's an Audi "policy" thing not to automatically replace
all
> faulty parts.
I *have* read your other posts. If the part is not currently causing a
problem, then they should not have to replace it. This is not an
Audi-only thing - they *all* do it.
> To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
> his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but
differently and
> ill-timed coilpack failures.
Again, the policy of not replacing parts that are not currently broken
causes some hassles. Maybe Audi could have sourced all the needed coil
packs all at once. And maybe tequila is suddenly going to pour out of
a faucet at home. Until Audi had a large enough supply, there *just
weren't enough* coil packs to replace four when one was faulty.
> This is something that you will never see when
> a Japanese make is involved
Flat out wrong.
> and I should think no other German
> manufacturers would dare live up to such preposterous standards.
Mercedes and BMW have exactly the same policy.
> I feel it's
> especially disappointing as we are paying dear money for these cars
in the
> belief that they are going to be German-reliable and I have always
know
> Germans to be very serious about whatever they do.
As I have said before, you had better start shopping for a luxury
Japanese make to reduce the strain on your heart.
Where again is this dealer that's not replacing non-faulty parts for
free?
E.P.
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Steve Sears wrote:
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=...ya.com&rnum=26
have a look
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=...ya.com&rnum=26
have a look
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Steve Sears wrote:
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=...ya.com&rnum=26
have a look
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=...ya.com&rnum=26
have a look