ESP Question
03-09-2005, 10:07 AM
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Re: ESP Question
Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
> OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn right...
ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
what, but that's where you're steering).
But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
if the car is actually going out.
- Yak
> OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn right...
ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
what, but that's where you're steering).
But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
if the car is actually going out.
- Yak
03-09-2005, 10:07 AM
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Re: ESP Question
Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
> OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn right...
ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
what, but that's where you're steering).
But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
if the car is actually going out.
- Yak
> OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn right...
ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
what, but that's where you're steering).
But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
if the car is actually going out.
- Yak
03-09-2005, 11:10 AM
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Re: ESP Question
"Michael Burman" <yak@invalid-iki.fi> wrote in message
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> Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
> > OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn
right...
>
> ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
> to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
> oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
> turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
> what, but that's where you're steering).
...and thay say "nothing wrong, sir. Working as designed"
> But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
> just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
> if the car is actually going out.
Reach over with left hand, slap dashboard. What's that, half a second? Less?
In any event, it worked: with ESP now switched off, the car turned fast
enough to oversteer. Quite handy at the time, as it allowed me to go
/around/ the roundabout, instead of into a tall kerb.
Next you'll be telling me that TT windows don't drop on their own, or that
the interior light doesn't sometimes fail to turn off (usually in
conjunction with the internal doorlock button failing).... ;o)
To be fair, I /do/ trust ESP to keep the car in a straight line. I just
don't trust it to accurately follow driver inputs.
H1K
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> Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
> > OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn
right...
>
> ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
> to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
> oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
> turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
> what, but that's where you're steering).
...and thay say "nothing wrong, sir. Working as designed"
> But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
> just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
> if the car is actually going out.
Reach over with left hand, slap dashboard. What's that, half a second? Less?
In any event, it worked: with ESP now switched off, the car turned fast
enough to oversteer. Quite handy at the time, as it allowed me to go
/around/ the roundabout, instead of into a tall kerb.
Next you'll be telling me that TT windows don't drop on their own, or that
the interior light doesn't sometimes fail to turn off (usually in
conjunction with the internal doorlock button failing).... ;o)
To be fair, I /do/ trust ESP to keep the car in a straight line. I just
don't trust it to accurately follow driver inputs.
H1K
03-09-2005, 11:10 AM
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Re: ESP Question
"Michael Burman" <yak@invalid-iki.fi> wrote in message
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> Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
> > OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn
right...
>
> ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
> to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
> oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
> turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
> what, but that's where you're steering).
...and thay say "nothing wrong, sir. Working as designed"
> But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
> just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
> if the car is actually going out.
Reach over with left hand, slap dashboard. What's that, half a second? Less?
In any event, it worked: with ESP now switched off, the car turned fast
enough to oversteer. Quite handy at the time, as it allowed me to go
/around/ the roundabout, instead of into a tall kerb.
Next you'll be telling me that TT windows don't drop on their own, or that
the interior light doesn't sometimes fail to turn off (usually in
conjunction with the internal doorlock button failing).... ;o)
To be fair, I /do/ trust ESP to keep the car in a straight line. I just
don't trust it to accurately follow driver inputs.
H1K
news:d0n79u$t2iie$1@midnight.cs.hut.fi...
> Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
> > OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn
right...
>
> ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
> to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
> oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
> turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
> what, but that's where you're steering).
...and thay say "nothing wrong, sir. Working as designed"
> But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
> just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
> if the car is actually going out.
Reach over with left hand, slap dashboard. What's that, half a second? Less?
In any event, it worked: with ESP now switched off, the car turned fast
enough to oversteer. Quite handy at the time, as it allowed me to go
/around/ the roundabout, instead of into a tall kerb.
Next you'll be telling me that TT windows don't drop on their own, or that
the interior light doesn't sometimes fail to turn off (usually in
conjunction with the internal doorlock button failing).... ;o)
To be fair, I /do/ trust ESP to keep the car in a straight line. I just
don't trust it to accurately follow driver inputs.
H1K
03-09-2005, 11:10 AM
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Re: ESP Question
"Michael Burman" <yak@invalid-iki.fi> wrote in message
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> Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
> > OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn
right...
>
> ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
> to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
> oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
> turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
> what, but that's where you're steering).
...and thay say "nothing wrong, sir. Working as designed"
> But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
> just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
> if the car is actually going out.
Reach over with left hand, slap dashboard. What's that, half a second? Less?
In any event, it worked: with ESP now switched off, the car turned fast
enough to oversteer. Quite handy at the time, as it allowed me to go
/around/ the roundabout, instead of into a tall kerb.
Next you'll be telling me that TT windows don't drop on their own, or that
the interior light doesn't sometimes fail to turn off (usually in
conjunction with the internal doorlock button failing).... ;o)
To be fair, I /do/ trust ESP to keep the car in a straight line. I just
don't trust it to accurately follow driver inputs.
H1K
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> Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
> > OTOH, if it decides to go straight on when you're trying to turn
right...
>
> ESP goes to the direction where you turn, if it doesn't, you should go
> to service and say there's something wrong with it. If you play with
> oversteer and turn to other direction to get it sorted, ESP will also
> turn the car to that other direction (let it be out of the corner or
> what, but that's where you're steering).
...and thay say "nothing wrong, sir. Working as designed"
> But otherwise, sounds like there's something wrong with your car, or
> just bollocks, since disengaging ESP isn't something you have time to do
> if the car is actually going out.
Reach over with left hand, slap dashboard. What's that, half a second? Less?
In any event, it worked: with ESP now switched off, the car turned fast
enough to oversteer. Quite handy at the time, as it allowed me to go
/around/ the roundabout, instead of into a tall kerb.
Next you'll be telling me that TT windows don't drop on their own, or that
the interior light doesn't sometimes fail to turn off (usually in
conjunction with the internal doorlock button failing).... ;o)
To be fair, I /do/ trust ESP to keep the car in a straight line. I just
don't trust it to accurately follow driver inputs.
H1K
05-20-2005, 03:45 PM
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Re: ESP Question
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:37:44 -0500, "mike constantine"
<numer909@hotmailnospam.com> wrote:
>For the past two Winters I've done what the manual says and have turned off
>the ESP in my 02 TT when driving in the snow. The ESP would remain off and
>the light lit on the dashboard until I hit the button again. The first snow
>of this year when turning the ESP off, it turns back on when I hit the
>brakes.The dealer tells me this is normal, but I know it not to be. Any
>thoughts on this?
>
>Thanks
>
>
I have the A4 Sport Package and I find myself shutting off ESP on dry
pavement. The big fat summer tires seem to have tracking problems and
it feels worse to have ESP steer the car back. Any one else doing the
same thing?
<numer909@hotmailnospam.com> wrote:
>For the past two Winters I've done what the manual says and have turned off
>the ESP in my 02 TT when driving in the snow. The ESP would remain off and
>the light lit on the dashboard until I hit the button again. The first snow
>of this year when turning the ESP off, it turns back on when I hit the
>brakes.The dealer tells me this is normal, but I know it not to be. Any
>thoughts on this?
>
>Thanks
>
>
I have the A4 Sport Package and I find myself shutting off ESP on dry
pavement. The big fat summer tires seem to have tracking problems and
it feels worse to have ESP steer the car back. Any one else doing the
same thing?
05-20-2005, 03:45 PM
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Re: ESP Question
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:37:44 -0500, "mike constantine"
<numer909@hotmailnospam.com> wrote:
>For the past two Winters I've done what the manual says and have turned off
>the ESP in my 02 TT when driving in the snow. The ESP would remain off and
>the light lit on the dashboard until I hit the button again. The first snow
>of this year when turning the ESP off, it turns back on when I hit the
>brakes.The dealer tells me this is normal, but I know it not to be. Any
>thoughts on this?
>
>Thanks
>
>
I have the A4 Sport Package and I find myself shutting off ESP on dry
pavement. The big fat summer tires seem to have tracking problems and
it feels worse to have ESP steer the car back. Any one else doing the
same thing?
<numer909@hotmailnospam.com> wrote:
>For the past two Winters I've done what the manual says and have turned off
>the ESP in my 02 TT when driving in the snow. The ESP would remain off and
>the light lit on the dashboard until I hit the button again. The first snow
>of this year when turning the ESP off, it turns back on when I hit the
>brakes.The dealer tells me this is normal, but I know it not to be. Any
>thoughts on this?
>
>Thanks
>
>
I have the A4 Sport Package and I find myself shutting off ESP on dry
pavement. The big fat summer tires seem to have tracking problems and
it feels worse to have ESP steer the car back. Any one else doing the
same thing?
05-20-2005, 03:45 PM
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Re: ESP Question
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:37:44 -0500, "mike constantine"
<numer909@hotmailnospam.com> wrote:
>For the past two Winters I've done what the manual says and have turned off
>the ESP in my 02 TT when driving in the snow. The ESP would remain off and
>the light lit on the dashboard until I hit the button again. The first snow
>of this year when turning the ESP off, it turns back on when I hit the
>brakes.The dealer tells me this is normal, but I know it not to be. Any
>thoughts on this?
>
>Thanks
>
>
I have the A4 Sport Package and I find myself shutting off ESP on dry
pavement. The big fat summer tires seem to have tracking problems and
it feels worse to have ESP steer the car back. Any one else doing the
same thing?
<numer909@hotmailnospam.com> wrote:
>For the past two Winters I've done what the manual says and have turned off
>the ESP in my 02 TT when driving in the snow. The ESP would remain off and
>the light lit on the dashboard until I hit the button again. The first snow
>of this year when turning the ESP off, it turns back on when I hit the
>brakes.The dealer tells me this is normal, but I know it not to be. Any
>thoughts on this?
>
>Thanks
>
>
I have the A4 Sport Package and I find myself shutting off ESP on dry
pavement. The big fat summer tires seem to have tracking problems and
it feels worse to have ESP steer the car back. Any one else doing the
same thing?
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