Chips
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Re: Chips
On Aug 29, 10:27 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?
> --
>
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
I have recently sold my re-mapped Fiat Stilo deisel and bought and
Audi A4 deisel which I am intending to get re-mapped.
The effect on the re-map was quite noticable and for £250 was well
worth it. The map was to inc the power from 115 to 155 bhp and a
similar increase in torque. 0-60 time was cut, I never tested it
properly but I would estimate it dropped from 10.6 (manufacturers
figs) to around 9 secs. Other owners who tested similar cars got
8.5-9secs. The extra torque made a lot of difference in gear
improving pickup between the gears noticably. Driving around a tight
bend on a steep dry road in yourshire, I booted it and the extra
torque caused the traction control to kick in, something that never
happened before.
There was also a noticable increase in economy, possible as high as 5%
most notciable on long motorway cruises fully loaded (i.e I wasn't
booting the car). The only downside was a noticable increase in smoke
under heavy acceleration. That said it passed the stringent annual
MOT emmissions test every year.
I ran the car for 40k miles after the re-map with no problems at all
though I never really took the car to it's limits.
I've never heard anyone regret having a professional re-map, you do
have to expect extra wear and tear on clutch and tyres though.
Mike
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?
> --
>
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
I have recently sold my re-mapped Fiat Stilo deisel and bought and
Audi A4 deisel which I am intending to get re-mapped.
The effect on the re-map was quite noticable and for £250 was well
worth it. The map was to inc the power from 115 to 155 bhp and a
similar increase in torque. 0-60 time was cut, I never tested it
properly but I would estimate it dropped from 10.6 (manufacturers
figs) to around 9 secs. Other owners who tested similar cars got
8.5-9secs. The extra torque made a lot of difference in gear
improving pickup between the gears noticably. Driving around a tight
bend on a steep dry road in yourshire, I booted it and the extra
torque caused the traction control to kick in, something that never
happened before.
There was also a noticable increase in economy, possible as high as 5%
most notciable on long motorway cruises fully loaded (i.e I wasn't
booting the car). The only downside was a noticable increase in smoke
under heavy acceleration. That said it passed the stringent annual
MOT emmissions test every year.
I ran the car for 40k miles after the re-map with no problems at all
though I never really took the car to it's limits.
I've never heard anyone regret having a professional re-map, you do
have to expect extra wear and tear on clutch and tyres though.
Mike
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Re: Chips
On Aug 29, 10:27 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?
> --
>
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
I have recently sold my re-mapped Fiat Stilo deisel and bought and
Audi A4 deisel which I am intending to get re-mapped.
The effect on the re-map was quite noticable and for £250 was well
worth it. The map was to inc the power from 115 to 155 bhp and a
similar increase in torque. 0-60 time was cut, I never tested it
properly but I would estimate it dropped from 10.6 (manufacturers
figs) to around 9 secs. Other owners who tested similar cars got
8.5-9secs. The extra torque made a lot of difference in gear
improving pickup between the gears noticably. Driving around a tight
bend on a steep dry road in yourshire, I booted it and the extra
torque caused the traction control to kick in, something that never
happened before.
There was also a noticable increase in economy, possible as high as 5%
most notciable on long motorway cruises fully loaded (i.e I wasn't
booting the car). The only downside was a noticable increase in smoke
under heavy acceleration. That said it passed the stringent annual
MOT emmissions test every year.
I ran the car for 40k miles after the re-map with no problems at all
though I never really took the car to it's limits.
I've never heard anyone regret having a professional re-map, you do
have to expect extra wear and tear on clutch and tyres though.
Mike
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?
> --
>
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
I have recently sold my re-mapped Fiat Stilo deisel and bought and
Audi A4 deisel which I am intending to get re-mapped.
The effect on the re-map was quite noticable and for £250 was well
worth it. The map was to inc the power from 115 to 155 bhp and a
similar increase in torque. 0-60 time was cut, I never tested it
properly but I would estimate it dropped from 10.6 (manufacturers
figs) to around 9 secs. Other owners who tested similar cars got
8.5-9secs. The extra torque made a lot of difference in gear
improving pickup between the gears noticably. Driving around a tight
bend on a steep dry road in yourshire, I booted it and the extra
torque caused the traction control to kick in, something that never
happened before.
There was also a noticable increase in economy, possible as high as 5%
most notciable on long motorway cruises fully loaded (i.e I wasn't
booting the car). The only downside was a noticable increase in smoke
under heavy acceleration. That said it passed the stringent annual
MOT emmissions test every year.
I ran the car for 40k miles after the re-map with no problems at all
though I never really took the car to it's limits.
I've never heard anyone regret having a professional re-map, you do
have to expect extra wear and tear on clutch and tyres though.
Mike
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Re: Chips
On Aug 29, 10:27 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?
> --
>
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
I have recently sold my re-mapped Fiat Stilo deisel and bought and
Audi A4 deisel which I am intending to get re-mapped.
The effect on the re-map was quite noticable and for £250 was well
worth it. The map was to inc the power from 115 to 155 bhp and a
similar increase in torque. 0-60 time was cut, I never tested it
properly but I would estimate it dropped from 10.6 (manufacturers
figs) to around 9 secs. Other owners who tested similar cars got
8.5-9secs. The extra torque made a lot of difference in gear
improving pickup between the gears noticably. Driving around a tight
bend on a steep dry road in yourshire, I booted it and the extra
torque caused the traction control to kick in, something that never
happened before.
There was also a noticable increase in economy, possible as high as 5%
most notciable on long motorway cruises fully loaded (i.e I wasn't
booting the car). The only downside was a noticable increase in smoke
under heavy acceleration. That said it passed the stringent annual
MOT emmissions test every year.
I ran the car for 40k miles after the re-map with no problems at all
though I never really took the car to it's limits.
I've never heard anyone regret having a professional re-map, you do
have to expect extra wear and tear on clutch and tyres though.
Mike
> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> more attractive to women.
>
> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> the factory?
> --
>
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
I have recently sold my re-mapped Fiat Stilo deisel and bought and
Audi A4 deisel which I am intending to get re-mapped.
The effect on the re-map was quite noticable and for £250 was well
worth it. The map was to inc the power from 115 to 155 bhp and a
similar increase in torque. 0-60 time was cut, I never tested it
properly but I would estimate it dropped from 10.6 (manufacturers
figs) to around 9 secs. Other owners who tested similar cars got
8.5-9secs. The extra torque made a lot of difference in gear
improving pickup between the gears noticably. Driving around a tight
bend on a steep dry road in yourshire, I booted it and the extra
torque caused the traction control to kick in, something that never
happened before.
There was also a noticable increase in economy, possible as high as 5%
most notciable on long motorway cruises fully loaded (i.e I wasn't
booting the car). The only downside was a noticable increase in smoke
under heavy acceleration. That said it passed the stringent annual
MOT emmissions test every year.
I ran the car for 40k miles after the re-map with no problems at all
though I never really took the car to it's limits.
I've never heard anyone regret having a professional re-map, you do
have to expect extra wear and tear on clutch and tyres though.
Mike
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Re: Chips
"Tony" <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> khw wrote:
>> Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
>> results vs. performance
>> every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
>> ensure that
>> every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
>> reliability standards.
>> reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
>>
>> performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
>> and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
>> can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
>>
>> i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
>> tranmissions
>> ....(;
>>
> Yeah, but imagine the fun he had doing that
The 'P' Philosophy is to race it & break it and then build it better!
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Re: Chips
"Tony" <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> khw wrote:
>> Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
>> results vs. performance
>> every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
>> ensure that
>> every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
>> reliability standards.
>> reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
>>
>> performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
>> and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
>> can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
>>
>> i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
>> tranmissions
>> ....(;
>>
> Yeah, but imagine the fun he had doing that
The 'P' Philosophy is to race it & break it and then build it better!
#36
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Re: Chips
"Tony" <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com> wrote in message
news:13dcitpfq6e4h9b@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> khw wrote:
>> Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
>> results vs. performance
>> every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
>> ensure that
>> every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
>> reliability standards.
>> reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
>>
>> performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
>> and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
>> can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
>>
>> i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
>> tranmissions
>> ....(;
>>
> Yeah, but imagine the fun he had doing that
The 'P' Philosophy is to race it & break it and then build it better!
#37
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Re: Chips
"Tony" <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com> wrote in message
news:13dcitpfq6e4h9b@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> khw wrote:
>> Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
>> results vs. performance
>> every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
>> ensure that
>> every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
>> reliability standards.
>> reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
>>
>> performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
>> and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
>> can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
>>
>> i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
>> tranmissions
>> ....(;
>>
> Yeah, but imagine the fun he had doing that
The 'P' Philosophy is to race it & break it and then build it better!
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Re: Chips
"Miguel De Anda" <miguel@thedeanda.com> wrote in message
news:46d65414$0$16353$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Steve Daniels wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
>> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
>> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
>> more attractive to women.
>>
>> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
>> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
>> the factory?
>
>
> I've got an APR on a 03' 225 TT. The gain isn't very noticeable to me. I
> think its partially because its a quatro and I can't make the wheels
> burnout from a rolling first gear... like on my '01 1.8T Jetta. I've also
> added an APR intercooler and for a month had the 3" APR full exhaust,
> those
> did add a lot more juice but the intercooler and exhaust are pretty
> pricey.
>
> BTW, if anybody is interested, my exhaust is now for sale. I've got
> pictures
> and info at http://linxp.homelinux.org/forsale/aprexhaust/
>
> However, if you want a really fast car, I understand you won't be able to
> get to far unless you use a 3" exhaust. I was hoping to get a larger turbo
> but the larger exhaust was too much noise for me so I guess I'm kind of at
> the limit of what I can do.
My buddy who designs some turbo systems creates collectors right behind the
turbo and places the high flow cats further down the exhaust. I have to
drive one of his monsters one day! lol
He wants me to modify my newly acquired '97 Audi 1.8tq auto. <g>
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
#39
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Re: Chips
"Miguel De Anda" <miguel@thedeanda.com> wrote in message
news:46d65414$0$16353$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Steve Daniels wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
>> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
>> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
>> more attractive to women.
>>
>> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
>> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
>> the factory?
>
>
> I've got an APR on a 03' 225 TT. The gain isn't very noticeable to me. I
> think its partially because its a quatro and I can't make the wheels
> burnout from a rolling first gear... like on my '01 1.8T Jetta. I've also
> added an APR intercooler and for a month had the 3" APR full exhaust,
> those
> did add a lot more juice but the intercooler and exhaust are pretty
> pricey.
>
> BTW, if anybody is interested, my exhaust is now for sale. I've got
> pictures
> and info at http://linxp.homelinux.org/forsale/aprexhaust/
>
> However, if you want a really fast car, I understand you won't be able to
> get to far unless you use a 3" exhaust. I was hoping to get a larger turbo
> but the larger exhaust was too much noise for me so I guess I'm kind of at
> the limit of what I can do.
My buddy who designs some turbo systems creates collectors right behind the
turbo and places the high flow cats further down the exhaust. I have to
drive one of his monsters one day! lol
He wants me to modify my newly acquired '97 Audi 1.8tq auto. <g>
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
#40
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Re: Chips
"Miguel De Anda" <miguel@thedeanda.com> wrote in message
news:46d65414$0$16353$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Steve Daniels wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
>> them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
>> snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
>> more attractive to women.
>>
>> I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
>> can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
>> the factory?
>
>
> I've got an APR on a 03' 225 TT. The gain isn't very noticeable to me. I
> think its partially because its a quatro and I can't make the wheels
> burnout from a rolling first gear... like on my '01 1.8T Jetta. I've also
> added an APR intercooler and for a month had the 3" APR full exhaust,
> those
> did add a lot more juice but the intercooler and exhaust are pretty
> pricey.
>
> BTW, if anybody is interested, my exhaust is now for sale. I've got
> pictures
> and info at http://linxp.homelinux.org/forsale/aprexhaust/
>
> However, if you want a really fast car, I understand you won't be able to
> get to far unless you use a 3" exhaust. I was hoping to get a larger turbo
> but the larger exhaust was too much noise for me so I guess I'm kind of at
> the limit of what I can do.
My buddy who designs some turbo systems creates collectors right behind the
turbo and places the high flow cats further down the exhaust. I have to
drive one of his monsters one day! lol
He wants me to modify my newly acquired '97 Audi 1.8tq auto. <g>
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)