Chips
08-29-2007, 06:33 PM
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
compelled Tony <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
> Steve Daniels wrote:
> >
> >
> > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > more attractive to women.
> >
> > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > the factory?
> >
> It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> comments.
I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
newer, with the 225 engine.
> If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> performance costa a lot more money.
I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
probably go for it.
> I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> top gear.
>
> YMMV
>
> I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> With a turbo engine, go for it.
Thank you.
--
Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
compelled Tony <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
> Steve Daniels wrote:
> >
> >
> > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > more attractive to women.
> >
> > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > the factory?
> >
> It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> comments.
I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
newer, with the 225 engine.
> If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> performance costa a lot more money.
I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
probably go for it.
> I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> top gear.
>
> YMMV
>
> I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> With a turbo engine, go for it.
Thank you.
--
Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
08-29-2007, 06:33 PM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
compelled Tony <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
> Steve Daniels wrote:
> >
> >
> > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > more attractive to women.
> >
> > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > the factory?
> >
> It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> comments.
I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
newer, with the 225 engine.
> If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> performance costa a lot more money.
I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
probably go for it.
> I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> top gear.
>
> YMMV
>
> I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> With a turbo engine, go for it.
Thank you.
--
Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
compelled Tony <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
> Steve Daniels wrote:
> >
> >
> > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > more attractive to women.
> >
> > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > the factory?
> >
> It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> comments.
I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
newer, with the 225 engine.
> If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> performance costa a lot more money.
I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
probably go for it.
> I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> top gear.
>
> YMMV
>
> I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> With a turbo engine, go for it.
Thank you.
--
Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
08-29-2007, 06:33 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
compelled Tony <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
> Steve Daniels wrote:
> >
> >
> > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > more attractive to women.
> >
> > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > the factory?
> >
> It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> comments.
I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
newer, with the 225 engine.
> If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> performance costa a lot more money.
I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
probably go for it.
> I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> top gear.
>
> YMMV
>
> I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> With a turbo engine, go for it.
Thank you.
--
Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
compelled Tony <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
> Steve Daniels wrote:
> >
> >
> > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > more attractive to women.
> >
> > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > the factory?
> >
> It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> comments.
I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
newer, with the 225 engine.
> If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> performance costa a lot more money.
I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
probably go for it.
> I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> top gear.
>
> YMMV
>
> I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> With a turbo engine, go for it.
Thank you.
--
Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
08-29-2007, 07:33 PM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
results vs. performance
every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
ensure that
every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
reliability standards.
reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
tranmissions
.....(;
On Aug 29, 4:33 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
> compelled Tony <tonyjNOS...@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
>
> > Steve Daniels wrote:
>
> > > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > > more attractive to women.
>
> > > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > > the factory?
>
> > It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> > comments.
>
> I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
> newer, with the 225 engine.
>
> > If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> > If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> > a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> > trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> > capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> > associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> > performance costa a lot more money.
>
> I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
> get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
> probably go for it.
>
> > I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> > octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> > seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> > purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> > What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> > the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> > the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> > risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> > map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> > got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> > display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> > top gear.
>
> > YMMV
>
> > I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> > but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> > I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> > chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> > boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> > stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> > With a turbo engine, go for it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
results vs. performance
every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
ensure that
every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
reliability standards.
reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
tranmissions
.....(;
On Aug 29, 4:33 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
> compelled Tony <tonyjNOS...@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
>
> > Steve Daniels wrote:
>
> > > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > > more attractive to women.
>
> > > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > > the factory?
>
> > It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> > comments.
>
> I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
> newer, with the 225 engine.
>
> > If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> > If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> > a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> > trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> > capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> > associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> > performance costa a lot more money.
>
> I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
> get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
> probably go for it.
>
> > I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> > octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> > seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> > purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> > What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> > the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> > the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> > risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> > map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> > got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> > display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> > top gear.
>
> > YMMV
>
> > I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> > but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> > I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> > chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> > boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> > stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> > With a turbo engine, go for it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
08-29-2007, 07:33 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
results vs. performance
every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
ensure that
every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
reliability standards.
reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
tranmissions
.....(;
On Aug 29, 4:33 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
> compelled Tony <tonyjNOS...@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
>
> > Steve Daniels wrote:
>
> > > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > > more attractive to women.
>
> > > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > > the factory?
>
> > It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> > comments.
>
> I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
> newer, with the 225 engine.
>
> > If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> > If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> > a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> > trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> > capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> > associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> > performance costa a lot more money.
>
> I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
> get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
> probably go for it.
>
> > I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> > octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> > seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> > purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> > What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> > the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> > the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> > risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> > map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> > got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> > display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> > top gear.
>
> > YMMV
>
> > I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> > but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> > I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> > chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> > boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> > stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> > With a turbo engine, go for it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
results vs. performance
every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
ensure that
every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
reliability standards.
reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
tranmissions
.....(;
On Aug 29, 4:33 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
> compelled Tony <tonyjNOS...@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
>
> > Steve Daniels wrote:
>
> > > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > > more attractive to women.
>
> > > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > > the factory?
>
> > It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> > comments.
>
> I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
> newer, with the 225 engine.
>
> > If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> > If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> > a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> > trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> > capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> > associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> > performance costa a lot more money.
>
> I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
> get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
> probably go for it.
>
> > I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> > octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> > seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> > purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> > What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> > the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> > the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> > risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> > map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> > got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> > display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> > top gear.
>
> > YMMV
>
> > I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> > but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> > I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> > chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> > boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> > stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> > With a turbo engine, go for it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
08-29-2007, 07:33 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
results vs. performance
every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
ensure that
every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
reliability standards.
reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
tranmissions
.....(;
On Aug 29, 4:33 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
> compelled Tony <tonyjNOS...@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
>
> > Steve Daniels wrote:
>
> > > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > > more attractive to women.
>
> > > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > > the factory?
>
> > It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> > comments.
>
> I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
> newer, with the 225 engine.
>
> > If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> > If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> > a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> > trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> > capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> > associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> > performance costa a lot more money.
>
> I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
> get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
> probably go for it.
>
> > I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> > octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> > seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> > purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> > What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> > the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> > the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> > risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> > map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> > got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> > display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> > top gear.
>
> > YMMV
>
> > I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> > but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> > I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> > chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> > boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> > stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> > With a turbo engine, go for it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
results vs. performance
every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
ensure that
every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
reliability standards.
reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
tranmissions
.....(;
On Aug 29, 4:33 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
> compelled Tony <tonyjNOS...@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
>
> > Steve Daniels wrote:
>
> > > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > > more attractive to women.
>
> > > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > > the factory?
>
> > It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> > comments.
>
> I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
> newer, with the 225 engine.
>
> > If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> > If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> > a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> > trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> > capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> > associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> > performance costa a lot more money.
>
> I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
> get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
> probably go for it.
>
> > I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> > octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> > seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> > purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> > What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> > the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> > the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> > risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> > map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> > got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> > display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> > top gear.
>
> > YMMV
>
> > I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> > but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> > I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> > chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> > boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> > stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> > With a turbo engine, go for it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
08-29-2007, 07:33 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
results vs. performance
every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
ensure that
every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
reliability standards.
reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
tranmissions
.....(;
On Aug 29, 4:33 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
> compelled Tony <tonyjNOS...@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
>
> > Steve Daniels wrote:
>
> > > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > > more attractive to women.
>
> > > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > > the factory?
>
> > It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> > comments.
>
> I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
> newer, with the 225 engine.
>
> > If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> > If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> > a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> > trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> > capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> > associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> > performance costa a lot more money.
>
> I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
> get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
> probably go for it.
>
> > I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> > octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> > seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> > purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> > What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> > the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> > the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> > risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> > map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> > got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> > display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> > top gear.
>
> > YMMV
>
> > I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> > but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> > I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> > chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> > boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> > stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> > With a turbo engine, go for it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
results vs. performance
every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
ensure that
every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
reliability standards.
reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
tranmissions
.....(;
On Aug 29, 4:33 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:09:22 -0600, against all advice, something
> compelled Tony <tonyjNOS...@NOSPAMvisi.com>, to say:
>
>
>
> > Steve Daniels wrote:
>
> > > I took a cruise around the interweb looking a chips. I've found
> > > them from $500 ~ $650. They claim to give more low end torque,
> > > snapper high end performance, a cure for acne, and will make you
> > > more attractive to women.
>
> > > I'd like to know the downside. I mean, if a simple bit of code
> > > can make autolife so much better, why doesn't Audi put it in at
> > > the factory?
>
> > It would help to know what engine / transmission you have to make any
> > comments.
>
> I don't have one yet, but I'm leaning towards a TT coupe, 2004 or
> newer, with the 225 engine.
>
> > If you have a non-turbo the chips will have only minor effect.
>
> > If turbo the chips can be anywhere from putting a smile on your face to
> > a real impact. But just like with any performance mod there are
> > trade-offs. High performance chips require other changes like higher
> > capacity injectors, upgraded turbos ... all which come with their
> > associated reliability issues. Performance costs money and high
> > performance costa a lot more money.
>
> I don't have a need for street racer performance, but if I could
> get another 25 HP for five hundred bucks and no other mods, I'd
> probably go for it.
>
> > I have an '04 A4 1.8 TQ6M and have chipped with a stage 1 APR (91 and 93
> > octane programs) which increases the performance very noticeably and
> > seems to be a good trade-off of performance and reliability for my
> > purposes. No other mods. Cost a bit over $600.
>
> > What ever chip you consider will probably operate somewhat leaner than
> > the stock program. The factory program is a bit richer than needed over
> > the fuel / air map than is needed to be conservative and minimize the
> > risk of warranty repairs. I do a lot of highway driving and the leaner
> > map results in better mileage. On a 1,500 mile trip several weeks ago I
> > got 34.5 to 35.5 mpg on all tanks calculated and computed on the
> > display. This is partially due to the six speed being geared over 1:1 in
> > top gear.
>
> > YMMV
>
> > I also had an APR stage 1 in my former '98 1.8 TQM with similar results
> > but mileage was about 29 to 30 on the highway.
>
> > I haven't had any reliability issues with either car but the Stage 1
> > chips are fairly conservative and don't stress the engine much with max
> > boost at about 17 PSA and sustained at about 14 or 15 compared to the
> > stock boost max at about 10 PSI and sustained at 7 PSI.
>
> > With a turbo engine, go for it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Life is too short to play cheap guitars.
08-29-2007, 11:46 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
khw wrote:
> Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
> results vs. performance
> every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
> ensure that
> every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
> reliability standards.
> reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
>
> performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
> and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
> can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
>
> i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
> tranmissions
> ....(;
>
Yeah, but imagine the fun he had doing that
08-29-2007, 11:46 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
khw wrote:
> Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
> results vs. performance
> every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
> ensure that
> every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
> reliability standards.
> reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
>
> performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
> and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
> can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
>
> i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
> tranmissions
> ....(;
>
Yeah, but imagine the fun he had doing that
08-29-2007, 11:46 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Chips
khw wrote:
> Audi and all manufacturers balance reliability and consistency of EPA
> results vs. performance
> every engine and car is slightly different. One of the goals is to
> ensure that
> every car can gets out of manufacturing sucessfully meeting EPA and
> reliability standards.
> reworking cars is a not good engineering and costly to profits.
>
> performance benefits can be dramatic, again varies a bit car to car,
> and other parts like transmissions, clutches, turbos, injectors, cams
> can be affected if mods are pushed to the limits.
>
> i met a 911 turbo owner who had chipped his turbo and blown 2
> tranmissions
> ....(;
>
Yeah, but imagine the fun he had doing that
