leviathan

From: frickjpremovetheobvious@theoffice.net (JPF)
>Good one.

>You chose to drive the poorest quality
>Japanese marque. You **** on those that you
>expect to help you. Many here know the
>answer.

I answered with the same courtesy which was extended towards me.

Your reply demonstrates your ignorance crystal clearly. Why would anyone
"choose" to drive a 1986 Mitsubishi Cordia? Come on guy, i'm driving
that car because I can't afford anything else. I need to fix it and I
asked simple questions which got meaningless replies about the car's
make and model as if the people who replied have some type of teenage
retarded animosity towards the make and model. If you or the other 2
jokers don't want to answer because you're mentally still 15 years old,
craking stupid comments about makes and models, then good for you.

Inger Skramstad Jørstad

"leviathan" <leviathanguest@webtv.net> skrev i melding
news:3618-3F987282-71@storefull-2295.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I answered with the same courtesy which was extended towards me.

No, you did not.

> Your reply demonstrates your ignorance crystal clearly. Why would anyone
> "choose" to drive a 1986 Mitsubishi Cordia? Come on guy, i'm driving
> that car because I can't afford anything else. I need to fix it and I

Yes, I can understand that. You drive what you can afford, naturally, nobody
in their right mind would blame you for that, least of all me. I know very
well how it is to be driving an old and beaten-up car, believe me, I know
the feeling very well, but now I am a thirtysomething with a decent job, and
can afford to drive better.

> asked simple questions which got meaningless replies about the car's
> make and model as if the people who replied have some type of teenage
> retarded animosity towards the make and model. If you or the other 2
> jokers don't want to answer because you're mentally still 15 years old,
> craking stupid comments about makes and models, then good for you.

You must be etremely touchy, and easy to offend. My comment was just an
innocent comment, and certainly no effort to be "wise." Why stating the fact
that "Mitsubishi" means "Three diamonds" in Japanese, is so deeply offending
to you, is completely and totally beyond me. Again, you seem extremely
touchy to me.

Stu Hedith

Your question is rather make and model specific. I know nothing about
Mitsubishi's except their name means 3 diamonds in japanese ($1 to
Inger). If it were my Audi, I would tell you its not going to work
because your valves are as crooked as Bill Clinton. IF you have a
non-interference motor, you should be okay. As long as the timing is
correct, the piston and valves should be in the correct position when
the plug fires.

Stu

leviathan wrote:

> Hi. I have an '86 Mitsubishi Cordia and I am trying to change the timing
> belt on my car. I'm waiting to see if someone will lend me a chain
> wrench in order to remove the pulley in the crankshaft spot. In the
> meantime, I thought i'd ask a few questions.
>
> After I put both the car's timing belts properly aligned, will the car
> be good to go after everything else is put back exactly the way it was?
> For example, will the spark plug cables work in the same position as
> they were before the belts broke or will the cables need to be
> readjusted somehow? What i'm trying to ask is: is the're another step
> after you install the timing belt? For some reason, I think that i'm
> going to install the belts and the car is not going to work properly.
> Any tips? Thanks
>

Russ Maki

"leviathan" <leviathanguest@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3617-3F986EDB-250@storefull-2295.public.lawson.webtv.net...
From: jay@no-fixed-abode.com (Jay Somerset)

<Audi people must not know too much about cars. I asked this <question in
<the Dodge group and I got a helpful and intelligent reply. It's just <a
timing belt question. No need for it to be a specific make and <models to
<answer a timing belt question (at least the question I asked).

Here's what an Audi owner would do if the timing belt broke: pull the
cylinder head and replace a bunch of bent valves (a few models excepted).
Your first post suggests that's what happened with your car, correct? You
didn't communicate that issue too clearly.

.....Is this a troll, or what?

Russ

Jarno

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:13:52 -0400 (EDT), leviathanguest@webtv.net
(leviathan) wrote:

>From: ingjoers@online.no (Inger=A0Skramstad=A0J=F8rstad)
>
>>I know something!! The name "Mitsubishi"
> >supposedly means "Three diamonds" in
> >Japanese, just take a look at the logo.
>
>Another ignorant reply. Both you and the other guy are completely lost
>with regards to car maintenance. A knowledgeable person would never have
>replied like this and would've realized my question could be answered
>universally for any make and model car.

Ahhh, textbook example of how written messages can be misunderstood
(ie. written language doesn't convey body language or tone of voice as
in person to person communication)

First person just points out general rule of newsgroups: don't post
message to group where it doesn't belong.

Second person makes joke of whole thing but original poster doesn't
get it and this whole discussion goes downhill from thereafter.


I admit that sometimes finding correct group can be difficult, but if
group is named after one particular model of car it shouldn't be too
hard to figure out that it is _only_ for discussion of that particular
model of car. Even as You state that question _is_ universal in nature
it still doesn't belong here.

As there happens to be group for mitsubishi (alt.autos.mitsubishi)
post Your message there (or general auto-goup: alt.autos), not here
please.


- jarno -

PS. sorry about bad language, spelling mistakes etc, but english is
not my natural language.







------------------------------------
"Nothing is as certain as uncertain"

Juha

"leviathan" <leviathanguest@webtv.net> wrote in message
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From: jay@no-fixed-abode.com (Jay Somerset)

>Audi people must not know too much about cars. I asked this question in
>the Dodge group and I got a helpful and intelligent reply. It's just a
>timing belt question. No need for it to be a specific make and models to
>answer a timing belt question (at least the question I asked).

So, if your question answered already in Dodge group, why do you ask it here
too? What kind of answer you got in Mitsubishi group?

- Juha -

Peter Bell

In message <3617-3F985FBA-220@storefull-2295.public.lawson.webtv.net>
leviathanguest@webtv.net (leviathan) wrote:

> From: peter@invalid.org.uk (Peter Bell)
>
> >What makes you think that anyone in this Audi
> >newsgroup will know anything about
> >Mitsubishis?
>
> Wow, pretty ignorant reply.

Thanks.

> My question was about timing belts. Maybe
> someone here or wherever can answer the question regardless of the car's
> make and model. Why it would depend on the car's make and model for the
> question I asked is beyond me.

Why you should ask the question in alt.autos.audi, when there is an
alt.autos.mitsubishi group is beyond me!

> It's obvious you probably couldn't find the oil filter in you car if
> they offered you a million dollars to do so. LMAO

Haha! It is true to say that I haven't done as much work on any of my
cars in recent years as I used to do in my youth. However, in the
years from around 1970 to 1990 I was fully familiar with car mechanics
and electrics. I think it was 1969 when I first lifted an engine out
of a car, stripped it down and rebuilt it.

I have to say that your original questions didn't make a lot of sense
to me. Why on earth you think that the spark plug leads should need to
be 'readjusted' is beyond me. You ask about changing *the* timing
belt. You then go on to refer to *both* belts. Do you understand what
you're attempting to do?

You don't tell us which engine is in your Cordia (there were at least
three different engines fitted to the Cordia - 1.6 N/A, 1.6 turbo, 1.8
turbo). Before giving advice, I would normally be concerned with
knowing whether the belt actually broke and, if so, was the engine
running at the time. Is the engine an 'interference' design, in which
case the head should be lifted and the valves checked out. If the belt
didn't break, then replacement should be a simple matter of aligning
timing marks, releasing the belt tensioner, removing the old belt,
installing the new belt and tensioner (you will be fitting a new
tensioner, won't you?) and bolting everything back together. What else
is worth doing whilst the belt is off? On an Audi I would insist on
installing a new waterpump. Does that help?

If I were you, I'd still be inclined to ask in alt.autos.mitsubishi -
folks there will probably be a lot more knowledgable about your
particular car.

--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')

Toby Groves

In article <3617-3F986EDB-250@storefull-2295.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
leviathan <leviathanguest@webtv.net> writes
>From: jay@no-fixed-abode.com (Jay Somerset)
>
>>That's a good start -- insult the people from
> >whom you want help.
>
>Audi people must not know too much about cars.

Says the dimwit that posts a question about Mitsubishis to an Audi
newsgroup!
--
Toby

Steve Sears

Stu,
you forgot to crosspost to
rec.humour.clinton.monica.ithoughtyousaidSAXnotSEX

Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - no idea were the oil filter is
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"Stu Hedith" <stuhedith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BY%lb.14557$HS4.54883@attbi_s01...
> Your question is rather make and model specific. I know nothing about
> Mitsubishi's except their name means 3 diamonds in japanese ($1 to
> Inger). If it were my Audi, I would tell you its not going to work
> because your valves are as crooked as Bill Clinton. IF you have a
> non-interference motor, you should be okay. As long as the timing is
> correct, the piston and valves should be in the correct position when
> the plug fires.
>
> Stu
>
> leviathan wrote:
>
> > Hi. I have an '86 Mitsubishi Cordia and I am trying to change the timing
> > belt on my car. I'm waiting to see if someone will lend me a chain
> > wrench in order to remove the pulley in the crankshaft spot. In the
> > meantime, I thought i'd ask a few questions.
> >
> > After I put both the car's timing belts properly aligned, will the car
> > be good to go after everything else is put back exactly the way it was?
> > For example, will the spark plug cables work in the same position as
> > they were before the belts broke or will the cables need to be
> > readjusted somehow? What i'm trying to ask is: is the're another step
> > after you install the timing belt? For some reason, I think that i'm
> > going to install the belts and the car is not going to work properly.
> > Any tips? Thanks
> >
>

NPNoonan

>Audi people must not know too much about cars. I asked this question in
>the Dodge group and I got a helpful and intelligent reply. It's just a
>timing belt question. No need for it to be a specific make and models to
>answer a timing belt question (at least the question I asked).
>

Perhaps the reason those in the Dodge Group could answer your question is that
Chrysler has used Mitubishi motors in its products, Minivans, Plymouth Laser,
Eagle Talon, Dodge Stealth and many more.

To my knowledge, Audi has yet to put a Mitsubishi motor into any of its cars.

-- Tom Werner