Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
#61
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Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
On 17 Nov 2006 21:48:29 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Hey guys, thanks for all of your comments and suggestions.
>
>Whats really ironic and sad is that before I bought the car, i had it
>carfaxed, I called audi and asked if they had service records for the
>car (they said they did till 99,XXX miles) and I had it checked out by
>a mechanic. The mechanic had gave the car a clean bill of health but
>obviously couldn't check the timing belt. As a precaution I decided to
>set an appointment with the dealership to go over the records, to do a
>diagnostic and to possiblly change the timing bet. This appointment is
>(was) for this coming monday. I figured the car should be ok for a
>week, but, ^%#*$, the belt broke after 4 days.
>
>So, yeh, as daytripper mentioned, you can try and plan all you want,
>but crap happens. I guess there's not much you can do accept kick
>something, swear a little bit, accept it and move on.
>
>Dave, thank you for your input. I'm really really hoping that there
>isnt any significant engine damage. The car was stopped and it turned
>off without any noticeable drama (no noises, vibrations or otherwise
>odd behavior). However, I was talking to my passenger, so I could have
>missed a slight rattle.
>
>There's still hope that it could be something else! Admittedly its a
>very small small hope.
>
>The mechanic I've decided to go with comes pretty well recommended and
>he's going to charge me 750 for the timing belt plus any damage repair
>costs. (please please GOD let there be none!). Do you guys have any
>suggestions as to anything else that I should have checked/replaced
>while the engine is open, I guess it'll save labor costs from having to
>reopen the engine at a later point to check/fix something else.
>
>I'm definitely going to talk to the mechanic about the sludge problem.
>I've been reading up on that on audiforms.com too. Any suggestions for
>what kind of cleaner I should use?
>
>The car will be towed to the mechanic on Monday for an assessment and
>estimate. I don't know when I'll be able to afford to fix it though,
>depends on the quote. I'm out of money right now and college life
>doesn't pay much. :s
>
>Anyone want to contribute to the "save the silver A4" fund? lol
>
>thanks for all your help,
>
>//SD
>
Other things to check/fix:
1. Fan belts
2. Water pump
3. I usually check alternator brush wear when doing these since the
alternator is out and easy to work on (brushes are cheap).
4. LOF (of course! <g>)
wrote:
>Hey guys, thanks for all of your comments and suggestions.
>
>Whats really ironic and sad is that before I bought the car, i had it
>carfaxed, I called audi and asked if they had service records for the
>car (they said they did till 99,XXX miles) and I had it checked out by
>a mechanic. The mechanic had gave the car a clean bill of health but
>obviously couldn't check the timing belt. As a precaution I decided to
>set an appointment with the dealership to go over the records, to do a
>diagnostic and to possiblly change the timing bet. This appointment is
>(was) for this coming monday. I figured the car should be ok for a
>week, but, ^%#*$, the belt broke after 4 days.
>
>So, yeh, as daytripper mentioned, you can try and plan all you want,
>but crap happens. I guess there's not much you can do accept kick
>something, swear a little bit, accept it and move on.
>
>Dave, thank you for your input. I'm really really hoping that there
>isnt any significant engine damage. The car was stopped and it turned
>off without any noticeable drama (no noises, vibrations or otherwise
>odd behavior). However, I was talking to my passenger, so I could have
>missed a slight rattle.
>
>There's still hope that it could be something else! Admittedly its a
>very small small hope.
>
>The mechanic I've decided to go with comes pretty well recommended and
>he's going to charge me 750 for the timing belt plus any damage repair
>costs. (please please GOD let there be none!). Do you guys have any
>suggestions as to anything else that I should have checked/replaced
>while the engine is open, I guess it'll save labor costs from having to
>reopen the engine at a later point to check/fix something else.
>
>I'm definitely going to talk to the mechanic about the sludge problem.
>I've been reading up on that on audiforms.com too. Any suggestions for
>what kind of cleaner I should use?
>
>The car will be towed to the mechanic on Monday for an assessment and
>estimate. I don't know when I'll be able to afford to fix it though,
>depends on the quote. I'm out of money right now and college life
>doesn't pay much. :s
>
>Anyone want to contribute to the "save the silver A4" fund? lol
>
>thanks for all your help,
>
>//SD
>
Other things to check/fix:
1. Fan belts
2. Water pump
3. I usually check alternator brush wear when doing these since the
alternator is out and easy to work on (brushes are cheap).
4. LOF (of course! <g>)
#62
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Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <dontsend@noway.com>
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
#63
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Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <dontsend@noway.com>
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
#64
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Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <dontsend@noway.com>
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
#65
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Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <dontsend@noway.com>
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
#66
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Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
OP and LOF?
On Nov 18, 9:12 am, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <donts...@noway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> >> I second that!
> >> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> >> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> >> vehicle.
>
> >> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> >> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> >> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> >> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> >> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> >> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> >> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> >> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> >> Good luck!
> >> later,
> >> dave
> >> (One out of many daves)
>
> >> "PeterD" <pet...@hipson.net> wrote in message
> >>news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com. ..
>
> >>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
> >>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>
> >>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
> >>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
> >>>>>>many valves in
>
> >>>>>doing so.
>
> >>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
> >>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
> >>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
> >>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
> >>>factor these into the final price.
>
> >>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
> >>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
> >Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
> >Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
> >on this NG.
>
> >He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
> incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
OP and LOF?
On Nov 18, 9:12 am, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <donts...@noway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> >> I second that!
> >> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> >> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> >> vehicle.
>
> >> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> >> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> >> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> >> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> >> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> >> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> >> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> >> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> >> Good luck!
> >> later,
> >> dave
> >> (One out of many daves)
>
> >> "PeterD" <pet...@hipson.net> wrote in message
> >>news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com. ..
>
> >>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
> >>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>
> >>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
> >>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
> >>>>>>many valves in
>
> >>>>>doing so.
>
> >>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
> >>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
> >>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
> >>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
> >>>factor these into the final price.
>
> >>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
> >>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
> >Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
> >Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
> >on this NG.
>
> >He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
> incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
OP and LOF?
On Nov 18, 9:12 am, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <donts...@noway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> >> I second that!
> >> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> >> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> >> vehicle.
>
> >> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> >> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> >> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> >> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> >> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> >> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> >> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> >> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> >> Good luck!
> >> later,
> >> dave
> >> (One out of many daves)
>
> >> "PeterD" <pet...@hipson.net> wrote in message
> >>news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com. ..
>
> >>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
> >>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>
> >>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
> >>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
> >>>>>>many valves in
>
> >>>>>doing so.
>
> >>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
> >>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
> >>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
> >>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
> >>>factor these into the final price.
>
> >>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
> >>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
> >Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
> >Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
> >on this NG.
>
> >He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
> incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
OP and LOF?
On Nov 18, 9:12 am, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <donts...@noway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> >> I second that!
> >> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> >> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> >> vehicle.
>
> >> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> >> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> >> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> >> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> >> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> >> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> >> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> >> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> >> Good luck!
> >> later,
> >> dave
> >> (One out of many daves)
>
> >> "PeterD" <pet...@hipson.net> wrote in message
> >>news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com. ..
>
> >>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
> >>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>
> >>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
> >>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
> >>>>>>many valves in
>
> >>>>>doing so.
>
> >>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
> >>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
> >>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
> >>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
> >>>factor these into the final price.
>
> >>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
> >>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
> >Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
> >Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
> >on this NG.
>
> >He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
> incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
OP and LOF?
On Nov 18, 9:12 am, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <donts...@noway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> >> I second that!
> >> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> >> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> >> vehicle.
>
> >> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> >> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> >> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> >> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> >> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> >> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> >> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> >> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> >> Good luck!
> >> later,
> >> dave
> >> (One out of many daves)
>
> >> "PeterD" <pet...@hipson.net> wrote in message
> >>news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com. ..
>
> >>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
> >>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>
> >>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
> >>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
> >>>>>>many valves in
>
> >>>>>doing so.
>
> >>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
> >>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
> >>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
> >>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
> >>>factor these into the final price.
>
> >>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
> >>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
> >Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
> >Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
> >on this NG.
>
> >He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
> incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
OP and LOF?
On Nov 18, 9:12 am, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <donts...@noway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> >> I second that!
> >> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> >> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> >> vehicle.
>
> >> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> >> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> >> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> >> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> >> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> >> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> >> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> >> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> >> Good luck!
> >> later,
> >> dave
> >> (One out of many daves)
>
> >> "PeterD" <pet...@hipson.net> wrote in message
> >>news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com. ..
>
> >>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
> >>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>
> >>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
> >>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
> >>>>>>many valves in
>
> >>>>>doing so.
>
> >>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
> >>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
> >>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
> >>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
> >>>factor these into the final price.
>
> >>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
> >>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
> >Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
> >Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
> >on this NG.
>
> >He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
> incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
OP and LOF?
On Nov 18, 9:12 am, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <donts...@noway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> >> I second that!
> >> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> >> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> >> vehicle.
>
> >> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> >> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> >> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> >> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> >> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> >> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> >> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> >> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> >> Good luck!
> >> later,
> >> dave
> >> (One out of many daves)
>
> >> "PeterD" <pet...@hipson.net> wrote in message
> >>news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com. ..
>
> >>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
> >>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>
> >>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
> >>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
> >>>>>>many valves in
>
> >>>>>doing so.
>
> >>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
> >>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
> >>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
> >>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
> >>>factor these into the final price.
>
> >>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
> >>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
> >Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
> >Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
> >on this NG.
>
> >He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
> incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
OP and LOF?
On Nov 18, 9:12 am, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <donts...@noway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> >> I second that!
> >> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> >> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> >> vehicle.
>
> >> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> >> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> >> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> >> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> >> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> >> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> >> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> >> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> >> Good luck!
> >> later,
> >> dave
> >> (One out of many daves)
>
> >> "PeterD" <pet...@hipson.net> wrote in message
> >>news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com. ..
>
> >>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
> >>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>
> >>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou...@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
> >>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
> >>>>>>many valves in
>
> >>>>>doing so.
>
> >>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
> >>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
> >>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
> >>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
> >>>factor these into the final price.
>
> >>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
> >>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
> >Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
> >Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
> >on this NG.
>
> >He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
> incredibly useful to him, wasn't it?
#70
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
"Sami D." <sami.durrani@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163864961.936584.194490@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
>
> OP and LOF?
OP can be 'Original Poster' in this case.
LOF might be 'Laughing On Floor' or 'Little Old Fart' or ? 8^)
Hey you can come up with some new ones if you want! lol (laughing out
loud)
this site should be bookmarked by you
http://www.acronymfinder.com/
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)