Car Buying Advice
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Re: Car Buying Advice
The message <GryCf.14071$JT.2694@fed1read06>
from "Ian S" <iws51remove@***.net> contains these words:
> The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
Given the amount garages charge to change belts, I worked out the other
day that the wife's Clio should have a pound put aside for every tank of
fuel just for cambelts.
That's why I do it myself! The A100 is due this summer, but at least
that's easy to get to.
--
Skipweasel
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
from "Ian S" <iws51remove@***.net> contains these words:
> The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
Given the amount garages charge to change belts, I worked out the other
day that the wife's Clio should have a pound put aside for every tank of
fuel just for cambelts.
That's why I do it myself! The A100 is due this summer, but at least
that's easy to get to.
--
Skipweasel
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
#32
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Re: Car Buying Advice
"Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Ian S wrote:
> > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1138396766.752191.126840@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >
> > > Dennis W wrote:
> > > > Cam belt and seals are a common Audi problem. Very common!
> > >
> > > People who change out the belts on schedule don't have problems.
> >
> > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
>
> It doesn't cost any more than a comparable car, and cost less than
> some.
Really? For which cars, does a TB change typically run over US$1000?
> > And
> > > seals? Seal leaks are not limited to just Audi. LOTS of car makers
> > > have seal issues.
> >
> > Pehaps, but not many have the seal problem at 50,000 to 60,000 miles
that
> > the A4 30 valve 2.8 V6 does.
>
> This "problem" is hardly above what you'd expect from the volume of
> cars produced.
What a crock! I've NEVER had a car's cam seals leak oil at 50,000 miles like
my A4 did. And I'm not alone - just check over at audiworld.com.
>
> But hey, when you have an axe to grind, one example constitutes a
> "fatal flaw."
>
> But really, there's a great solution: don't buy an Audi.
Works for me. After 20 years of Audi ownership, I WON'T be buying another.
news:1138406754.819264.163430@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Ian S wrote:
> > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1138396766.752191.126840@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >
> > > Dennis W wrote:
> > > > Cam belt and seals are a common Audi problem. Very common!
> > >
> > > People who change out the belts on schedule don't have problems.
> >
> > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
>
> It doesn't cost any more than a comparable car, and cost less than
> some.
Really? For which cars, does a TB change typically run over US$1000?
> > And
> > > seals? Seal leaks are not limited to just Audi. LOTS of car makers
> > > have seal issues.
> >
> > Pehaps, but not many have the seal problem at 50,000 to 60,000 miles
that
> > the A4 30 valve 2.8 V6 does.
>
> This "problem" is hardly above what you'd expect from the volume of
> cars produced.
What a crock! I've NEVER had a car's cam seals leak oil at 50,000 miles like
my A4 did. And I'm not alone - just check over at audiworld.com.
>
> But hey, when you have an axe to grind, one example constitutes a
> "fatal flaw."
>
> But really, there's a great solution: don't buy an Audi.
Works for me. After 20 years of Audi ownership, I WON'T be buying another.
#33
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Re: Car Buying Advice
"Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Ian S wrote:
> > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1138396766.752191.126840@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >
> > > Dennis W wrote:
> > > > Cam belt and seals are a common Audi problem. Very common!
> > >
> > > People who change out the belts on schedule don't have problems.
> >
> > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
>
> It doesn't cost any more than a comparable car, and cost less than
> some.
Really? For which cars, does a TB change typically run over US$1000?
> > And
> > > seals? Seal leaks are not limited to just Audi. LOTS of car makers
> > > have seal issues.
> >
> > Pehaps, but not many have the seal problem at 50,000 to 60,000 miles
that
> > the A4 30 valve 2.8 V6 does.
>
> This "problem" is hardly above what you'd expect from the volume of
> cars produced.
What a crock! I've NEVER had a car's cam seals leak oil at 50,000 miles like
my A4 did. And I'm not alone - just check over at audiworld.com.
>
> But hey, when you have an axe to grind, one example constitutes a
> "fatal flaw."
>
> But really, there's a great solution: don't buy an Audi.
Works for me. After 20 years of Audi ownership, I WON'T be buying another.
news:1138406754.819264.163430@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Ian S wrote:
> > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1138396766.752191.126840@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >
> > > Dennis W wrote:
> > > > Cam belt and seals are a common Audi problem. Very common!
> > >
> > > People who change out the belts on schedule don't have problems.
> >
> > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
>
> It doesn't cost any more than a comparable car, and cost less than
> some.
Really? For which cars, does a TB change typically run over US$1000?
> > And
> > > seals? Seal leaks are not limited to just Audi. LOTS of car makers
> > > have seal issues.
> >
> > Pehaps, but not many have the seal problem at 50,000 to 60,000 miles
that
> > the A4 30 valve 2.8 V6 does.
>
> This "problem" is hardly above what you'd expect from the volume of
> cars produced.
What a crock! I've NEVER had a car's cam seals leak oil at 50,000 miles like
my A4 did. And I'm not alone - just check over at audiworld.com.
>
> But hey, when you have an axe to grind, one example constitutes a
> "fatal flaw."
>
> But really, there's a great solution: don't buy an Audi.
Works for me. After 20 years of Audi ownership, I WON'T be buying another.
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Re: Car Buying Advice
"Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Ian S wrote:
> > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1138396766.752191.126840@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >
> > > Dennis W wrote:
> > > > Cam belt and seals are a common Audi problem. Very common!
> > >
> > > People who change out the belts on schedule don't have problems.
> >
> > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
>
> It doesn't cost any more than a comparable car, and cost less than
> some.
Really? For which cars, does a TB change typically run over US$1000?
> > And
> > > seals? Seal leaks are not limited to just Audi. LOTS of car makers
> > > have seal issues.
> >
> > Pehaps, but not many have the seal problem at 50,000 to 60,000 miles
that
> > the A4 30 valve 2.8 V6 does.
>
> This "problem" is hardly above what you'd expect from the volume of
> cars produced.
What a crock! I've NEVER had a car's cam seals leak oil at 50,000 miles like
my A4 did. And I'm not alone - just check over at audiworld.com.
>
> But hey, when you have an axe to grind, one example constitutes a
> "fatal flaw."
>
> But really, there's a great solution: don't buy an Audi.
Works for me. After 20 years of Audi ownership, I WON'T be buying another.
news:1138406754.819264.163430@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Ian S wrote:
> > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1138396766.752191.126840@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >
> > > Dennis W wrote:
> > > > Cam belt and seals are a common Audi problem. Very common!
> > >
> > > People who change out the belts on schedule don't have problems.
> >
> > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
>
> It doesn't cost any more than a comparable car, and cost less than
> some.
Really? For which cars, does a TB change typically run over US$1000?
> > And
> > > seals? Seal leaks are not limited to just Audi. LOTS of car makers
> > > have seal issues.
> >
> > Pehaps, but not many have the seal problem at 50,000 to 60,000 miles
that
> > the A4 30 valve 2.8 V6 does.
>
> This "problem" is hardly above what you'd expect from the volume of
> cars produced.
What a crock! I've NEVER had a car's cam seals leak oil at 50,000 miles like
my A4 did. And I'm not alone - just check over at audiworld.com.
>
> But hey, when you have an axe to grind, one example constitutes a
> "fatal flaw."
>
> But really, there's a great solution: don't buy an Audi.
Works for me. After 20 years of Audi ownership, I WON'T be buying another.
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Re: Car Buying Advice
Ian S wrote:
> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1138406754.819264.163430@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > Ian S wrote:
> > > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1138396766.752191.126840@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > >
> > > > Dennis W wrote:
> > > > > Cam belt and seals are a common Audi problem. Very common!
> > > >
> > > > People who change out the belts on schedule don't have problems.
> > >
> > > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
> >
> > It doesn't cost any more than a comparable car, and cost less than
> > some.
>
> Really? For which cars, does a TB change typically run over US$1000?
Not many, UNLESS you go to a stealership. Then it's "most of them."
The "typical" A4 TB change is not $1000.
> > > And
> > > > seals? Seal leaks are not limited to just Audi. LOTS of car makers
> > > > have seal issues.
> > >
> > > Pehaps, but not many have the seal problem at 50,000 to 60,000 miles
> that
> > > the A4 30 valve 2.8 V6 does.
> >
> > This "problem" is hardly above what you'd expect from the volume of
> > cars produced.
>
> What a crock! I've NEVER had a car's cam seals leak oil at 50,000 miles like
> my A4 did. And I'm not alone - just check over at audiworld.com.
What, ten people complain at Audiworld, and it's an endemic problem?
No. Go to other fora and read for yourself that seals do leak in other
makes.
> > But hey, when you have an axe to grind, one example constitutes a
> > "fatal flaw."
> >
> > But really, there's a great solution: don't buy an Audi.
>
> Works for me. After 20 years of Audi ownership, I WON'T be buying another.
Great. I'll keep on picking them up, because these problems don't seem
to happen to my Audis. Maybe you're just making it all up?
E.P.
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Re: Car Buying Advice
Ian S wrote:
> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1138406754.819264.163430@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > Ian S wrote:
> > > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1138396766.752191.126840@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > >
> > > > Dennis W wrote:
> > > > > Cam belt and seals are a common Audi problem. Very common!
> > > >
> > > > People who change out the belts on schedule don't have problems.
> > >
> > > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
> >
> > It doesn't cost any more than a comparable car, and cost less than
> > some.
>
> Really? For which cars, does a TB change typically run over US$1000?
Not many, UNLESS you go to a stealership. Then it's "most of them."
The "typical" A4 TB change is not $1000.
> > > And
> > > > seals? Seal leaks are not limited to just Audi. LOTS of car makers
> > > > have seal issues.
> > >
> > > Pehaps, but not many have the seal problem at 50,000 to 60,000 miles
> that
> > > the A4 30 valve 2.8 V6 does.
> >
> > This "problem" is hardly above what you'd expect from the volume of
> > cars produced.
>
> What a crock! I've NEVER had a car's cam seals leak oil at 50,000 miles like
> my A4 did. And I'm not alone - just check over at audiworld.com.
What, ten people complain at Audiworld, and it's an endemic problem?
No. Go to other fora and read for yourself that seals do leak in other
makes.
> > But hey, when you have an axe to grind, one example constitutes a
> > "fatal flaw."
> >
> > But really, there's a great solution: don't buy an Audi.
>
> Works for me. After 20 years of Audi ownership, I WON'T be buying another.
Great. I'll keep on picking them up, because these problems don't seem
to happen to my Audis. Maybe you're just making it all up?
E.P.
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Re: Car Buying Advice
Ian S wrote:
> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1138406754.819264.163430@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > Ian S wrote:
> > > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1138396766.752191.126840@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > >
> > > > Dennis W wrote:
> > > > > Cam belt and seals are a common Audi problem. Very common!
> > > >
> > > > People who change out the belts on schedule don't have problems.
> > >
> > > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
> >
> > It doesn't cost any more than a comparable car, and cost less than
> > some.
>
> Really? For which cars, does a TB change typically run over US$1000?
Not many, UNLESS you go to a stealership. Then it's "most of them."
The "typical" A4 TB change is not $1000.
> > > And
> > > > seals? Seal leaks are not limited to just Audi. LOTS of car makers
> > > > have seal issues.
> > >
> > > Pehaps, but not many have the seal problem at 50,000 to 60,000 miles
> that
> > > the A4 30 valve 2.8 V6 does.
> >
> > This "problem" is hardly above what you'd expect from the volume of
> > cars produced.
>
> What a crock! I've NEVER had a car's cam seals leak oil at 50,000 miles like
> my A4 did. And I'm not alone - just check over at audiworld.com.
What, ten people complain at Audiworld, and it's an endemic problem?
No. Go to other fora and read for yourself that seals do leak in other
makes.
> > But hey, when you have an axe to grind, one example constitutes a
> > "fatal flaw."
> >
> > But really, there's a great solution: don't buy an Audi.
>
> Works for me. After 20 years of Audi ownership, I WON'T be buying another.
Great. I'll keep on picking them up, because these problems don't seem
to happen to my Audis. Maybe you're just making it all up?
E.P.
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Re: Car Buying Advice
Guy King wrote:
> The message <GryCf.14071$JT.2694@fed1read06>
> from "Ian S" <iws51remove@***.net> contains these words:
>
> > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
>
> Given the amount garages charge to change belts, I worked out the other
> day that the wife's Clio should have a pound put aside for every tank of
> fuel just for cambelts.
> That's why I do it myself! The A100 is due this summer, but at least
> that's easy to get to.
Yup. Changing ANY car's belt these days is expensive. And really
damned expensive at a dealer.
Mercedes, BMW - they don't get away any cheaper. Heck, even a VW is
steep.
E.P.
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Re: Car Buying Advice
Guy King wrote:
> The message <GryCf.14071$JT.2694@fed1read06>
> from "Ian S" <iws51remove@***.net> contains these words:
>
> > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
>
> Given the amount garages charge to change belts, I worked out the other
> day that the wife's Clio should have a pound put aside for every tank of
> fuel just for cambelts.
> That's why I do it myself! The A100 is due this summer, but at least
> that's easy to get to.
Yup. Changing ANY car's belt these days is expensive. And really
damned expensive at a dealer.
Mercedes, BMW - they don't get away any cheaper. Heck, even a VW is
steep.
E.P.
#40
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Re: Car Buying Advice
Guy King wrote:
> The message <GryCf.14071$JT.2694@fed1read06>
> from "Ian S" <iws51remove@***.net> contains these words:
>
> > The cost of the cam belt change on the A4 IS a problem.
>
> Given the amount garages charge to change belts, I worked out the other
> day that the wife's Clio should have a pound put aside for every tank of
> fuel just for cambelts.
> That's why I do it myself! The A100 is due this summer, but at least
> that's easy to get to.
Yup. Changing ANY car's belt these days is expensive. And really
damned expensive at a dealer.
Mercedes, BMW - they don't get away any cheaper. Heck, even a VW is
steep.
E.P.