Backup Lights Question
 

It's the new guys again:

Backup lights on an '89 200 TQ. I'm getting nothing. I've got a good fuse
(slot 12, 15 amp), and good bulbs. Is there a trigger, switch, module, or
relay I need to check?

Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the back
of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.

As always, thanks.

Bill Graham

Re: Backup Lights Question
 

Might be cheap and easy if it is what I would suspect.

The type 44s have a characteristic of breaking the wires in the trunk
right where they enter the hinge to go back to the lights. They all do
this eventually due to bending when opening and closing the trunk.

If the wires are broken just crawl in there and reconnect them. I just
did mine tonight. All five wires had broken. Soldering is difficult
because it is above your head. Use crimp connectors.

I have done this on all three of my previous type 44s. Sort of a right
of passage : )

Tony
'91 100Q 5spd

Bill Graham wrote:
> It's the new guys again:
>
> Backup lights on an '89 200 TQ. I'm getting nothing. I've got a good fuse
> (slot 12, 15 amp), and good bulbs. Is there a trigger, switch, module, or
> relay I need to check?
>
> Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the back
> of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
> here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
> and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.
>
> As always, thanks.
>
> Bill Graham
>

Re: Backup Lights Question
 

Glad to know another trait. I'll check it tonight.

Bill

> Might be cheap and easy if it is what I would suspect.
>
> The type 44s have a characteristic of breaking the wires in the trunk
> right where they enter the hinge to go back to the lights. They all do
> this eventually due to bending when opening and closing the trunk.
>
> If the wires are broken just crawl in there and reconnect them. I just
> did mine tonight. All five wires had broken. Soldering is difficult
> because it is above your head. Use crimp connectors.
>
> I have done this on all three of my previous type 44s. Sort of a right
> of passage : )
>
> Tony
> '91 100Q 5spd
>
> Bill Graham wrote:
>> It's the new guys again:
>>
>> Backup lights on an '89 200 TQ. I'm getting nothing. I've got a good fuse
>> (slot 12, 15 amp), and good bulbs. Is there a trigger, switch, module, or
>> relay I need to check?
>>
>> Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the back
>> of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
>> here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
>> and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.
>>
>> As always, thanks.
>>
>> Bill Graham
>>
>

Re: Backup Lights Question
 

Two wires were frayed, brown and light blue. Wired them back up, but I still
have no backup lights. I'll keep looking for wires, but is there not a relay
or a switch elsewhere that might be the culprit?

Thanks,

Bill

> Glad to know another trait. I'll check it tonight.
>
> Bill
>
>> Might be cheap and easy if it is what I would suspect.
>>
>> The type 44s have a characteristic of breaking the wires in the trunk
>> right where they enter the hinge to go back to the lights. They all do
>> this eventually due to bending when opening and closing the trunk.
>>
>> If the wires are broken just crawl in there and reconnect them. I just
>> did mine tonight. All five wires had broken. Soldering is difficult
>> because it is above your head. Use crimp connectors.
>>
>> I have done this on all three of my previous type 44s. Sort of a right
>> of passage : )
>>
>> Tony
>> '91 100Q 5spd
>>
>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>> It's the new guys again:
>>>
>>> Backup lights on an '89 200 TQ. I'm getting nothing. I've got a good fuse
>>> (slot 12, 15 amp), and good bulbs. Is there a trigger, switch, module, or
>>> relay I need to check?
>>>
>>> Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the back
>>> of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
>>> here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
>>> and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.
>>>
>>> As always, thanks.
>>>
>>> Bill Graham
>>>
>>
>

Re: Backup Lights Question
 

I was out of town for a few days. Sorry to take so long getting back.

Bill Graham wrote:
> Two wires were frayed, brown and light blue. Wired them back up, but I still
> have no backup lights. I'll keep looking for wires, but is there not a relay
> or a switch elsewhere that might be the culprit?

You may find a bad fuse in the box by the left hood hinge.

The back up light switch must be on the shift linkage or trans but I am
not sure where. Just look for wires in those areas and you should be
able to find it.

>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>>Glad to know another trait. I'll check it tonight.
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>>>Might be cheap and easy if it is what I would suspect.
>>>
>>>The type 44s have a characteristic of breaking the wires in the trunk
>>>right where they enter the hinge to go back to the lights. They all do
>>>this eventually due to bending when opening and closing the trunk.
>>>
>>>If the wires are broken just crawl in there and reconnect them. I just
>>>did mine tonight. All five wires had broken. Soldering is difficult
>>>because it is above your head. Use crimp connectors.
>>>
>>>I have done this on all three of my previous type 44s. Sort of a right
>>>of passage : )
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>'91 100Q 5spd
>>>
>>>Bill Graham wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's the new guys again:
>>>>
>>>>Backup lights on an '89 200 TQ. I'm getting nothing. I've got a good fuse
>>>>(slot 12, 15 amp), and good bulbs. Is there a trigger, switch, module, or
>>>>relay I need to check?
>>>>
>>>>Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the back
>>>>of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
>>>>here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
>>>>and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.
>>>>
>>>>As always, thanks.
>>>>
>>>>Bill Graham
>>>>
>>>
>

Re: Backup Lights Question
 

I'll check that. Since I'm new at Audi's I'll have to find it first, but
I've got the Bentley.

Fuses, bulbs, and now wires all appear to be good.

On a side note: I love driving this car!

Thanks,

Bill

> I was out of town for a few days. Sorry to take so long getting back.
>
> Bill Graham wrote:
>> Two wires were frayed, brown and light blue. Wired them back up, but I still
>> have no backup lights. I'll keep looking for wires, but is there not a relay
>> or a switch elsewhere that might be the culprit?
>
> You may find a bad fuse in the box by the left hood hinge.
>
> The back up light switch must be on the shift linkage or trans but I am
> not sure where. Just look for wires in those areas and you should be
> able to find it.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>> Glad to know another trait. I'll check it tonight.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>> Might be cheap and easy if it is what I would suspect.
>>>>
>>>> The type 44s have a characteristic of breaking the wires in the trunk
>>>> right where they enter the hinge to go back to the lights. They all do
>>>> this eventually due to bending when opening and closing the trunk.
>>>>
>>>> If the wires are broken just crawl in there and reconnect them. I just
>>>> did mine tonight. All five wires had broken. Soldering is difficult
>>>> because it is above your head. Use crimp connectors.
>>>>
>>>> I have done this on all three of my previous type 44s. Sort of a right
>>>> of passage : )
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>> '91 100Q 5spd
>>>>
>>>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's the new guys again:
>>>>>
>>>>> Backup lights on an '89 200 TQ. I'm getting nothing. I've got a good fuse
>>>>> (slot 12, 15 amp), and good bulbs. Is there a trigger, switch, module, or
>>>>> relay I need to check?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the
>>>>> back
>>>>> of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
>>>>> here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
>>>>> and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.
>>>>>
>>>>> As always, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Graham
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

Re: Backup Lights Question
 

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:53:40 GMT, Bill Graham <whgraham@nc.rr.com>
wrote:

>Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the back
>of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
>here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
>and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.

What part did you replace? I have the exact same problem! Maybe I
won't call my mechanic after all seeing as how you say it was easy...


--
Taylor

'89 Audi 200
'03 Audi S6 Avant
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Re: Backup Lights Question
 

On my car:

There's some wiring behind the passenger side headlamp. In this mess of
wires, there was a small square three-pronged module. It just kind of hangs
there. That's what was replaced. I don't know the values of the module or
the part number, but I'll look on what's there now and see if I can find
more out. The original was a dull grey, the replacement is bright yellow and
says Ford on it.

Good luck.

Bill
---------------------
'89 200 Quattro Turbo


> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:53:40 GMT, Bill Graham <whgraham@nc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the back
>> of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
>> here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
>> and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.
>
> What part did you replace? I have the exact same problem! Maybe I
> won't call my mechanic after all seeing as how you say it was easy...
>
>
> --
> Taylor
>
> '89 Audi 200
> '03 Audi S6 Avant
> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Re: Backup Lights Question
 

Sorry, same problem as in no low beams, or no backup lights? I posted the
low beam fix that worked for me, but I still have no backup lights. I've
been advised of a switch on the transmission that should be checked, but I
haven't looked for/at that yet.

Thanks,

Bill

---------------------
'89 200 Quattro Turbo


> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:53:40 GMT, Bill Graham <whgraham@nc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the back
>> of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
>> here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
>> and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.
>
> What part did you replace? I have the exact same problem! Maybe I
> won't call my mechanic after all seeing as how you say it was easy...
>
>
> --
> Taylor
>
> '89 Audi 200
> '03 Audi S6 Avant
> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Re: Backup Lights Question
 

Aanother thought on the wires that you repaired. They are in a bundle of
five or six wires. I have found that sometimes the wires break inside
the insulation and appear OK until you flex them to find the internal
break by noticing a place where they bend too easily.

Bill Graham wrote:
> I'll check that. Since I'm new at Audi's I'll have to find it first, but
> I've got the Bentley.
>
> Fuses, bulbs, and now wires all appear to be good.
>
> On a side note: I love driving this car!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>>I was out of town for a few days. Sorry to take so long getting back.
>>
>>Bill Graham wrote:
>>
>>>Two wires were frayed, brown and light blue. Wired them back up, but I still
>>>have no backup lights. I'll keep looking for wires, but is there not a relay
>>>or a switch elsewhere that might be the culprit?
>>
>>You may find a bad fuse in the box by the left hood hinge.
>>
>>The back up light switch must be on the shift linkage or trans but I am
>>not sure where. Just look for wires in those areas and you should be
>>able to find it.
>>
>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Glad to know another trait. I'll check it tonight.
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Might be cheap and easy if it is what I would suspect.
>>>>>
>>>>>The type 44s have a characteristic of breaking the wires in the trunk
>>>>>right where they enter the hinge to go back to the lights. They all do
>>>>>this eventually due to bending when opening and closing the trunk.
>>>>>
>>>>>If the wires are broken just crawl in there and reconnect them. I just
>>>>>did mine tonight. All five wires had broken. Soldering is difficult
>>>>>because it is above your head. Use crimp connectors.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have done this on all three of my previous type 44s. Sort of a right
>>>>>of passage : )
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony
>>>>>'91 100Q 5spd
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill Graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's the new guys again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Backup lights on an '89 200 TQ. I'm getting nothing. I've got a good fuse
>>>>>>(slot 12, 15 amp), and good bulbs. Is there a trigger, switch, module, or
>>>>>>relay I need to check?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not long ago I lost low beams and it ended up being a module off of the
>>>>>>back
>>>>>>of the headlamp wiring. Cheap and easy fix, and I'm hoping for the same
>>>>>>here. My driveway is a drag during the day, at night you cross you fingers
>>>>>>and hope all goes well when you can't see behind you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As always, thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>