Harry

Cheerio, Harry.
>
> A4 1.8T does not have a turbo timer unless added by the owner.
>
> Your local repair shop is not correct about the codes. The car stored
> them even without a CEL. Try another shop that is more familiar with Audis.

thanks - will do.

Small update: as magically as the problem surfaced it magically
disappeared again today (until the next rain I guess)... Will still
have the codes scanned at the next best opportunity.

If the cause is found I'll post an update to the list.

Thanks, Harry.

dave AKA vwdoc1

any water leaking inside of car?

"Harry" <groupalias@mac.com> wrote in message news:0d92331e-237a-4aba-8f18-117742713777@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Cheerio, Harry.
>
> A4 1.8T does not have a turbo timer unless added by the owner.
>
> Your local repair shop is not correct about the codes. The car stored
> them even without a CEL. Try another shop that is more familiar with Audis.

thanks - will do.

Small update: as magically as the problem surfaced it magically
disappeared again today (until the next rain I guess)... Will still
have the codes scanned at the next best opportunity.

If the cause is found I'll post an update to the list.

Thanks, Harry.

Harry

On Jan 8, 4:05 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> any water leaking inside of car?
>

no, everything seems fine there. Best case it's just been the extreme
humidity associated with the recent rain... Let's see.

Thanks, Harry.

Booker

On Jan 8, 6:05 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> any water leaking inside of car?
>
> "Harry" <groupal...@mac.com> wrote in messagenews:0d92331e-237a-4aba-8f18-117742713777@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Cheerio, Harry.
> >
> > A4 1.8T does not have a turbo timer unless added by the owner.
> >
> > Your local repair shop is not correct about the codes. The car stored
> > them even without a CEL. Try another shop that is more familiar with Audis.
>
> thanks - will do.
>
> Small update: as magically as the problem surfaced it magically
> disappeared again today (until the next rain I guess)... Will still
> have the codes scanned at the next best opportunity.
>
> If the cause is found I'll post an update to the list.
>
> Thanks, Harry.

My 2002 Audi A-6 3.0 took in a TON of water in a couple severe rain/
wind storms this past summer 2007. I have had NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS
with it since. My brake (re-call taken care of) booster was full of
water and the brakes FROZE on the road on a trip. Prior to that I've
been going around with a mis fire in the cylinder (per my local
mechanic) to the point it misfires so bad it is undriveable. After
the brake deal and after they said my problem was I needed new tires
(which I now have) my check engine light is on again (less than a
week) from the 2nd. tow into Audi. My belief after much research is
that it is catalytic converter issues. Possibly from WATER as I cannot
stress to you enough HOW MUCH water this car took in - both engine and
interior of car. I have YET to get Audi to direct themselves to the
fact that ALL the problems I have had with the car is since it took in
droves of water. With the amount of money $$$$ this car has cost me
I'm quite upset not to mention it is my only source of transportation
and since summer of 2007 it is not driveable more than it is!!!

Ed Pirrero

On Jan 10, 10:53 am, Booker <kitra_b_boo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 6:05 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > any water leaking inside of car?
>
> > "Harry" <groupal...@mac.com> wrote in messagenews:0d92331e-237a-4aba-8f18-117742713777@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > Cheerio, Harry.
>
> > > A4 1.8T does not have a turbo timer unless added by the owner.
>
> > > Your local repair shop is not correct about the codes. The car stored
> > > them even without a CEL. Try another shop that is more familiar with Audis.
>
> > thanks - will do.
>
> > Small update: as magically as the problem surfaced it magically
> > disappeared again today (until the next rain I guess)... Will still
> > have the codes scanned at the next best opportunity.
>
> > If the cause is found I'll post an update to the list.
>
> > Thanks, Harry.
>
> My 2002 Audi A-6 3.0 took in a TON of water in a couple severe rain/
> wind storms this past summer 2007.

I don't get it - how did your car get so much water inside? I live in
an area that gets severe summer thunderstorms, with 50+mph winds and
torrential downpours. None of my Audis ever got wet inside, unless a
window was down!

E.P.

Ian G

"Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6da70ca4-6c29-45fc-9519-437f41f9f955@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 10, 10:53 am, Booker <kitra_b_boo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>
>> My 2002 Audi A-6 3.0 took in a TON of water in a couple severe rain/
>>wind storms this past summer 2007.

>I don't get it - how did your car get so much water inside? I live in
>an area that gets severe summer thunderstorms, with 50+mph winds and
>torrential downpours. None of my Audis ever got wet inside, unless a
>window was down!

>E.P.



I have reported to the group before..... (search for WATER INGRESS A6) as I
have experienced similar MAJOR flooding with multiple consequences.
There is a drain "tube" hidden away under the battery. This gets blocked
with leaves etc, allows the chamber the battery is located in to fill with
water. It floods the wiper motor, fusebox & everything else within that
chamber, then water finds its way to the car interior via grommets where
cables pass from the interior of the car into engine compartment. Thence the
wiring loom gets saturated & crimped connectors with it get corroded. Not to
mention the risk to any control modules located in the footwells. . . .

Maybe you don't park your car near any trees Ed ?

Just my experience

Ian

Ed Pirrero

On Jan 10, 3:56 pm, "Ian G" <ian.gaskell.wotnos...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6da70ca4-6c29-45fc-9519-437f41f9f955@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 10, 10:53 am, Booker <kitra_b_boo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> My 2002 Audi A-6 3.0 took in a TON of water in a couple severe rain/
> >>wind storms this past summer 2007.
> >I don't get it - how did your car get so much water inside? I live in
> >an area that gets severe summer thunderstorms, with 50+mph winds and
> >torrential downpours. None of my Audis ever got wet inside, unless a
> >window was down!
> >E.P.
>
> I have reported to the group before..... (search for WATER INGRESS A6) as I
> have experienced similar MAJOR flooding with multiple consequences.
> There is a drain "tube" hidden away under the battery. This gets blocked
> with leaves etc, allows the chamber the battery is located in to fill with
> water. It floods the wiper motor, fusebox & everything else within that
> chamber, then water finds its way to the car interior via grommets where
> cables pass from the interior of the car into engine compartment. Thence the
> wiring loom gets saturated & crimped connectors with it get corroded. Not to
> mention the risk to any control modules located in the footwells. . . .
>
> Maybe you don't park your car near any trees Ed ?


I used to, before I had a garage. Even now, I park the cars under
trees in parking lots, etc.

I have always cleared the drains, even way back when before I owned
Audis - othe rmakes have this same set-up.

ISTR reading about it in an owner's manual.

Sunroofs have drains, too. Does everyone ignore those things, too? I
clean those out every couple of years - they collect dirt and clog as
well.

Sorry, but if folks think the only thing they need to do to a car is
put gas in and make the payments, then blame the manufacturer for not
idiot-proofing their cars...

E.P.

dave AKA vwdoc1

Will the owner's manual instruct you on how to clean the drains, both sunroof and under the battery?

I think that services like that should be done during "servicing" the vehicle. So if it is the owner that does it or the repair person...............someone has to do it! <g>
I have found over a gallon bucket of leaves and debris under some batteries or in that tray area. Surprising!!!
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
1997 Red A4 1.8tq auto
"Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message news:40e17fe3-7cbc-404a-8a59-7207f25e5e71@s27g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 10, 3:56 pm, "Ian G" <ian.gaskell.wotnos...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6da70ca4-6c29-45fc-9519-437f41f9f955@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 10, 10:53 am, Booker <kitra_b_boo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> My 2002 Audi A-6 3.0 took in a TON of water in a couple severe rain/
> >>wind storms this past summer 2007.
> >I don't get it - how did your car get so much water inside? I live in
> >an area that gets severe summer thunderstorms, with 50+mph winds and
> >torrential downpours. None of my Audis ever got wet inside, unless a
> >window was down!
> >E.P.
>
> I have reported to the group before..... (search for WATER INGRESS A6) as I
> have experienced similar MAJOR flooding with multiple consequences.
> There is a drain "tube" hidden away under the battery. This gets blocked
> with leaves etc, allows the chamber the battery is located in to fill with
> water. It floods the wiper motor, fusebox & everything else within that
> chamber, then water finds its way to the car interior via grommets where
> cables pass from the interior of the car into engine compartment. Thence the
> wiring loom gets saturated & crimped connectors with it get corroded. Not to
> mention the risk to any control modules located in the footwells. . .. .
>
> Maybe you don't park your car near any trees Ed ?


I used to, before I had a garage. Even now, I park the cars under
trees in parking lots, etc.

I have always cleared the drains, even way back when before I owned
Audis - othe rmakes have this same set-up.

ISTR reading about it in an owner's manual.

Sunroofs have drains, too. Does everyone ignore those things, too? I
clean those out every couple of years - they collect dirt and clog as
well.

Sorry, but if folks think the only thing they need to do to a car is
put gas in and make the payments, then blame the manufacturer for not
idiot-proofing their cars...

E.P.

Ed Pirrero

On Jan 10, 4:49 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Will the owner's manual instruct you on how to clean the drains, both sunroof and under the battery?
>
> I think that services like that should be done during "servicing" the vehicle. So if it is the owner that does it or the repair person...............someone has to do it! <g>
> I have found over a gallon bucket of leaves and debris under some batteries or in that tray area. Surprising!!!

Yeah, a good service person should point it out. The owner's manual
should say that such things need to be done, if not how.

Sort of like an oil change.

I clean the cowl drains with my finger at every oil change, so I never
have had the problem. The sunroof drains I clean the first time I
vacuum the car in the spring (outside the garage).

I dunno - I'm have trouble working up concern for folks who don't do
this stuff. It's not a secret.

E.P.


> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:40e17fe3-7cbc-404a-8a59-7207f25e5e71@s27g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 10, 3:56 pm, "Ian G" <ian.gaskell.wotnos...@tesco.net> wrote:
> > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >news:6da70ca4-6c29-45fc-9519-437f41f9f955@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jan 10, 10:53 am, Booker <kitra_b_boo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >> My 2002 Audi A-6 3.0 took in a TON of water in a couple severe rain/
> > >>wind storms this past summer 2007.
> > >I don't get it - how did your car get so much water inside? I live in
> > >an area that gets severe summer thunderstorms, with 50+mph winds and
> > >torrential downpours. None of my Audis ever got wet inside, unless a
> > >window was down!
> > >E.P.
> >
> > I have reported to the group before..... (search for WATER INGRESS A6) as I
> > have experienced similar MAJOR flooding with multiple consequences.
> > There is a drain "tube" hidden away under the battery. This gets blocked
> > with leaves etc, allows the chamber the battery is located in to fill with
> > water. It floods the wiper motor, fusebox & everything else within that
> > chamber, then water finds its way to the car interior via grommets where
> > cables pass from the interior of the car into engine compartment. Thence the
> > wiring loom gets saturated & crimped connectors with it get corroded. Not to
> > mention the risk to any control modules located in the footwells. . . .
> >
> > Maybe you don't park your car near any trees Ed ?
>
> I used to, before I had a garage. Even now, I park the cars under
> trees in parking lots, etc.
>
> I have always cleared the drains, even way back when before I owned
> Audis - othe rmakes have this same set-up.
>
> ISTR reading about it in an owner's manual.
>
> Sunroofs have drains, too. Does everyone ignore those things, too? I
> clean those out every couple of years - they collect dirt and clog as
> well.
>
> Sorry, but if folks think the only thing they need to do to a car is
> put gas in and make the payments, then blame the manufacturer for not
> idiot-proofing their cars...
>
> E.P.

Frank

Ed Pirrero knastet inn: :
> On Jan 10, 10:53 am, Booker <kitra_b_boo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 6:05 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> I don't get it - how did your car get so much water inside? I live in
> an area that gets severe summer thunderstorms, with 50+mph winds and
> torrential downpours. None of my Audis ever got wet inside, unless a
> window was down!

One possible (and common) reason, blocked drain hole under the pollen
filter/battery.

Look at pictures from a Passat, but mostly the same with Audi.

http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/passat/leak/


Second, one of the doors doesn't fit - and need to be adjusted, or the
rubber sealing have to be replaced. Adjusting is quite easy to do.