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hawkinsa21 11-02-2006 06:56 AM

Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
very helpful and knowledgable...

Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
to me.....

I found this here:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...a8bf1c43fd949c

What Tony wrote describes my problem almost down to a T...

My dad is an ex-mechanic, and the CV boot was his first suggestion, and
we can see that it is BADLY split.... so its going to the shop for
repairs... (as I've had one replaced previously and this sorted the
problem out for the right hand side... )

BUT, when this started knocking about 6 weeks ago, it was very light...
and I've been told by mates who know more about cars that the CV
knocking will just get louder... I was assured it wasn't something that
would kill me.... since then though, I find that when turning the
steering wheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on the steering, as if my wheels
jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
correct this myself on the steering column, otherwise I won't follow
the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...

Some people have advised that this could be related to the CV itself...
but I'm not sure, and was worried that something is dying on my
steering column... there are two poles that connect from the column to
the top of the wheels which my dad has tightened a nut on, which made
it better but only for a short period as the slipping effect has come
back... he has also checked a nut that is under my steering column
which required a very awkward position to stick my head up near my foot
pedals and pull back some felt covering so that I could check nothing
was loose there...


I've trawled google and couldn't find anything relating to this on the
web so have found this group and posted here...


Any ideas would be great... I know my dad suggested that it could be
comming from the transmission and in that case it would be a throw away
job... I suppose I'm just trying to narrow it down so that I can be
more specific before taking it to the garage,,,, unless of course
someone knows of the problem and can say: "your car needs scrapping...
"


My Audi has 130,000 miles, and I've had it for 2 years... it has never
been in any accidents... I knew the owner through a friend, and it was
in immaculate condition after he owned it for 14 years... it even had
the original full exhaust !!


Thanks guys for any assistance...


Alex


Tony 11-02-2006 12:11 PM

Re: Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
Things to look at might include:
- failing steering rack
- worn tie rod ends
- loose connection of tie rods to steering rack
- loose mounting of steering rack
- worn ball joints
- loose sway bar
- broken motor / transmission mounts

.... the list goes on. A mechanic will need to check it to find and correct the
problem.

You are right to be concerned about safety. Get it fixed soon.

hawkinsa21 wrote:
> Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
> very helpful and knowledgable...
>
> Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
> to me.....
>
> I found this here:
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...a8bf1c43fd949c
>
> What Tony wrote describes my problem almost down to a T...
>
> My dad is an ex-mechanic, and the CV boot was his first suggestion, and
> we can see that it is BADLY split.... so its going to the shop for
> repairs... (as I've had one replaced previously and this sorted the
> problem out for the right hand side... )
>
> BUT, when this started knocking about 6 weeks ago, it was very light...
> and I've been told by mates who know more about cars that the CV
> knocking will just get louder... I was assured it wasn't something that
> would kill me.... since then though, I find that when turning the
> steering wheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
> take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on the steering, as if my wheels
> jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
> correct this myself on the steering column, otherwise I won't follow
> the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
> am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
> on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
> locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...
>
> Some people have advised that this could be related to the CV itself...
> but I'm not sure, and was worried that something is dying on my
> steering column... there are two poles that connect from the column to
> the top of the wheels which my dad has tightened a nut on, which made
> it better but only for a short period as the slipping effect has come
> back... he has also checked a nut that is under my steering column
> which required a very awkward position to stick my head up near my foot
> pedals and pull back some felt covering so that I could check nothing
> was loose there...
>
>
> I've trawled google and couldn't find anything relating to this on the
> web so have found this group and posted here...
>
>
> Any ideas would be great... I know my dad suggested that it could be
> comming from the transmission and in that case it would be a throw away
> job... I suppose I'm just trying to narrow it down so that I can be
> more specific before taking it to the garage,,,, unless of course
> someone knows of the problem and can say: "your car needs scrapping...
> "
>
>
> My Audi has 130,000 miles, and I've had it for 2 years... it has never
> been in any accidents... I knew the owner through a friend, and it was
> in immaculate condition after he owned it for 14 years... it even had
> the original full exhaust !!
>
>
> Thanks guys for any assistance...
>
>
> Alex
>


Tony 11-02-2006 12:11 PM

Re: Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
Things to look at might include:
- failing steering rack
- worn tie rod ends
- loose connection of tie rods to steering rack
- loose mounting of steering rack
- worn ball joints
- loose sway bar
- broken motor / transmission mounts

.... the list goes on. A mechanic will need to check it to find and correct the
problem.

You are right to be concerned about safety. Get it fixed soon.

hawkinsa21 wrote:
> Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
> very helpful and knowledgable...
>
> Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
> to me.....
>
> I found this here:
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...a8bf1c43fd949c
>
> What Tony wrote describes my problem almost down to a T...
>
> My dad is an ex-mechanic, and the CV boot was his first suggestion, and
> we can see that it is BADLY split.... so its going to the shop for
> repairs... (as I've had one replaced previously and this sorted the
> problem out for the right hand side... )
>
> BUT, when this started knocking about 6 weeks ago, it was very light...
> and I've been told by mates who know more about cars that the CV
> knocking will just get louder... I was assured it wasn't something that
> would kill me.... since then though, I find that when turning the
> steering wheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
> take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on the steering, as if my wheels
> jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
> correct this myself on the steering column, otherwise I won't follow
> the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
> am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
> on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
> locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...
>
> Some people have advised that this could be related to the CV itself...
> but I'm not sure, and was worried that something is dying on my
> steering column... there are two poles that connect from the column to
> the top of the wheels which my dad has tightened a nut on, which made
> it better but only for a short period as the slipping effect has come
> back... he has also checked a nut that is under my steering column
> which required a very awkward position to stick my head up near my foot
> pedals and pull back some felt covering so that I could check nothing
> was loose there...
>
>
> I've trawled google and couldn't find anything relating to this on the
> web so have found this group and posted here...
>
>
> Any ideas would be great... I know my dad suggested that it could be
> comming from the transmission and in that case it would be a throw away
> job... I suppose I'm just trying to narrow it down so that I can be
> more specific before taking it to the garage,,,, unless of course
> someone knows of the problem and can say: "your car needs scrapping...
> "
>
>
> My Audi has 130,000 miles, and I've had it for 2 years... it has never
> been in any accidents... I knew the owner through a friend, and it was
> in immaculate condition after he owned it for 14 years... it even had
> the original full exhaust !!
>
>
> Thanks guys for any assistance...
>
>
> Alex
>


Tony 11-02-2006 12:11 PM

Re: Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
Things to look at might include:
- failing steering rack
- worn tie rod ends
- loose connection of tie rods to steering rack
- loose mounting of steering rack
- worn ball joints
- loose sway bar
- broken motor / transmission mounts

.... the list goes on. A mechanic will need to check it to find and correct the
problem.

You are right to be concerned about safety. Get it fixed soon.

hawkinsa21 wrote:
> Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
> very helpful and knowledgable...
>
> Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
> to me.....
>
> I found this here:
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...a8bf1c43fd949c
>
> What Tony wrote describes my problem almost down to a T...
>
> My dad is an ex-mechanic, and the CV boot was his first suggestion, and
> we can see that it is BADLY split.... so its going to the shop for
> repairs... (as I've had one replaced previously and this sorted the
> problem out for the right hand side... )
>
> BUT, when this started knocking about 6 weeks ago, it was very light...
> and I've been told by mates who know more about cars that the CV
> knocking will just get louder... I was assured it wasn't something that
> would kill me.... since then though, I find that when turning the
> steering wheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
> take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on the steering, as if my wheels
> jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
> correct this myself on the steering column, otherwise I won't follow
> the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
> am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
> on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
> locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...
>
> Some people have advised that this could be related to the CV itself...
> but I'm not sure, and was worried that something is dying on my
> steering column... there are two poles that connect from the column to
> the top of the wheels which my dad has tightened a nut on, which made
> it better but only for a short period as the slipping effect has come
> back... he has also checked a nut that is under my steering column
> which required a very awkward position to stick my head up near my foot
> pedals and pull back some felt covering so that I could check nothing
> was loose there...
>
>
> I've trawled google and couldn't find anything relating to this on the
> web so have found this group and posted here...
>
>
> Any ideas would be great... I know my dad suggested that it could be
> comming from the transmission and in that case it would be a throw away
> job... I suppose I'm just trying to narrow it down so that I can be
> more specific before taking it to the garage,,,, unless of course
> someone knows of the problem and can say: "your car needs scrapping...
> "
>
>
> My Audi has 130,000 miles, and I've had it for 2 years... it has never
> been in any accidents... I knew the owner through a friend, and it was
> in immaculate condition after he owned it for 14 years... it even had
> the original full exhaust !!
>
>
> Thanks guys for any assistance...
>
>
> Alex
>


hawkinsa21 11-02-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
Thanks Tony, I much appreciate your quick reply...

I will get this looked at pronto...


:-D Alex

On Nov 2, 6:11 pm, Tony <tonyjnos...@nospamvisi.com> wrote:
> Things to look at might include:
> - failingsteeringrack
> - worn tie rod ends
> - loose connection of tie rods tosteeringrack
> - loose mounting ofsteeringrack
> - worn ball joints
> - loose sway bar
> - broken motor / transmission mounts
>
> ... the list goes on. A mechanic will need to check it to find and correct theproblem.
>
> You are right to be concerned about safety. Get it fixed soon.
>
>
>
> hawkinsa21 wrote:
> > Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
> > very helpful and knowledgable...

>
> > Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
> > to me.....

>
> > I found this here:
> >http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...thread/thread/...

>
> > What Tony wrote describes myproblemalmost down to a T...

>
> > My dad is an ex-mechanic, and the CV boot was his first suggestion, and
> > we can see that it is BADLY split.... so its going to the shop for
> > repairs... (as I've had one replaced previously and this sorted the
> >problemout for the right hand side... )

>
> > BUT, when this started knocking about 6 weeks ago, it was very light...
> > and I've been told by mates who know more about cars that the CV
> > knocking will just get louder... I was assured it wasn't something that
> > would kill me.... since then though, I find that when turning the
> >steeringwheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
> > take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on thesteering, as if my wheels
> > jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
> > correct this myself on thesteeringcolumn, otherwise I won't follow
> > the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
> > am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
> > on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
> > locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...

>
> > Some people have advised that this could be related to the CV itself...
> > but I'm not sure, and was worried that something is dying on my
> >steeringcolumn... there are two poles that connect from the column to
> > the top of the wheels which my dad has tightened a nut on, which made
> > it better but only for a short period as the slipping effect has come
> > back... he has also checked a nut that is under mysteeringcolumn
> > which required a very awkward position to stick my head up near my foot
> > pedals and pull back some felt covering so that I could check nothing
> > was loose there...

>
> > I've trawled google and couldn't find anything relating to this on the
> > web so have found this group and posted here...

>
> > Any ideas would be great... I know my dad suggested that it could be
> > comming from the transmission and in that case it would be a throw away
> > job... I suppose I'm just trying to narrow it down so that I can be
> > more specific before taking it to the garage,,,, unless of course
> > someone knows of theproblemand can say: "your car needs scrapping...
> > "

>
> > MyAudihas 130,000 miles, and I've had it for 2 years... it has never
> > been in any accidents... I knew the owner through a friend, and it was
> > in immaculate condition after he owned it for 14 years... it even had
> > the original full exhaust !!

>
> > Thanks guys for any assistance...

>
> > Alex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



hawkinsa21 11-02-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
Thanks Tony, I much appreciate your quick reply...

I will get this looked at pronto...


:-D Alex

On Nov 2, 6:11 pm, Tony <tonyjnos...@nospamvisi.com> wrote:
> Things to look at might include:
> - failingsteeringrack
> - worn tie rod ends
> - loose connection of tie rods tosteeringrack
> - loose mounting ofsteeringrack
> - worn ball joints
> - loose sway bar
> - broken motor / transmission mounts
>
> ... the list goes on. A mechanic will need to check it to find and correct theproblem.
>
> You are right to be concerned about safety. Get it fixed soon.
>
>
>
> hawkinsa21 wrote:
> > Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
> > very helpful and knowledgable...

>
> > Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
> > to me.....

>
> > I found this here:
> >http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...thread/thread/...

>
> > What Tony wrote describes myproblemalmost down to a T...

>
> > My dad is an ex-mechanic, and the CV boot was his first suggestion, and
> > we can see that it is BADLY split.... so its going to the shop for
> > repairs... (as I've had one replaced previously and this sorted the
> >problemout for the right hand side... )

>
> > BUT, when this started knocking about 6 weeks ago, it was very light...
> > and I've been told by mates who know more about cars that the CV
> > knocking will just get louder... I was assured it wasn't something that
> > would kill me.... since then though, I find that when turning the
> >steeringwheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
> > take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on thesteering, as if my wheels
> > jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
> > correct this myself on thesteeringcolumn, otherwise I won't follow
> > the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
> > am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
> > on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
> > locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...

>
> > Some people have advised that this could be related to the CV itself...
> > but I'm not sure, and was worried that something is dying on my
> >steeringcolumn... there are two poles that connect from the column to
> > the top of the wheels which my dad has tightened a nut on, which made
> > it better but only for a short period as the slipping effect has come
> > back... he has also checked a nut that is under mysteeringcolumn
> > which required a very awkward position to stick my head up near my foot
> > pedals and pull back some felt covering so that I could check nothing
> > was loose there...

>
> > I've trawled google and couldn't find anything relating to this on the
> > web so have found this group and posted here...

>
> > Any ideas would be great... I know my dad suggested that it could be
> > comming from the transmission and in that case it would be a throw away
> > job... I suppose I'm just trying to narrow it down so that I can be
> > more specific before taking it to the garage,,,, unless of course
> > someone knows of theproblemand can say: "your car needs scrapping...
> > "

>
> > MyAudihas 130,000 miles, and I've had it for 2 years... it has never
> > been in any accidents... I knew the owner through a friend, and it was
> > in immaculate condition after he owned it for 14 years... it even had
> > the original full exhaust !!

>
> > Thanks guys for any assistance...

>
> > Alex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



hawkinsa21 11-02-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
Thanks Tony, I much appreciate your quick reply...

I will get this looked at pronto...


:-D Alex

On Nov 2, 6:11 pm, Tony <tonyjnos...@nospamvisi.com> wrote:
> Things to look at might include:
> - failingsteeringrack
> - worn tie rod ends
> - loose connection of tie rods tosteeringrack
> - loose mounting ofsteeringrack
> - worn ball joints
> - loose sway bar
> - broken motor / transmission mounts
>
> ... the list goes on. A mechanic will need to check it to find and correct theproblem.
>
> You are right to be concerned about safety. Get it fixed soon.
>
>
>
> hawkinsa21 wrote:
> > Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
> > very helpful and knowledgable...

>
> > Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
> > to me.....

>
> > I found this here:
> >http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...thread/thread/...

>
> > What Tony wrote describes myproblemalmost down to a T...

>
> > My dad is an ex-mechanic, and the CV boot was his first suggestion, and
> > we can see that it is BADLY split.... so its going to the shop for
> > repairs... (as I've had one replaced previously and this sorted the
> >problemout for the right hand side... )

>
> > BUT, when this started knocking about 6 weeks ago, it was very light...
> > and I've been told by mates who know more about cars that the CV
> > knocking will just get louder... I was assured it wasn't something that
> > would kill me.... since then though, I find that when turning the
> >steeringwheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
> > take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on thesteering, as if my wheels
> > jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
> > correct this myself on thesteeringcolumn, otherwise I won't follow
> > the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
> > am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
> > on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
> > locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...

>
> > Some people have advised that this could be related to the CV itself...
> > but I'm not sure, and was worried that something is dying on my
> >steeringcolumn... there are two poles that connect from the column to
> > the top of the wheels which my dad has tightened a nut on, which made
> > it better but only for a short period as the slipping effect has come
> > back... he has also checked a nut that is under mysteeringcolumn
> > which required a very awkward position to stick my head up near my foot
> > pedals and pull back some felt covering so that I could check nothing
> > was loose there...

>
> > I've trawled google and couldn't find anything relating to this on the
> > web so have found this group and posted here...

>
> > Any ideas would be great... I know my dad suggested that it could be
> > comming from the transmission and in that case it would be a throw away
> > job... I suppose I'm just trying to narrow it down so that I can be
> > more specific before taking it to the garage,,,, unless of course
> > someone knows of theproblemand can say: "your car needs scrapping...
> > "

>
> > MyAudihas 130,000 miles, and I've had it for 2 years... it has never
> > been in any accidents... I knew the owner through a friend, and it was
> > in immaculate condition after he owned it for 14 years... it even had
> > the original full exhaust !!

>
> > Thanks guys for any assistance...

>
> > Alex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



5potnoodle 11-03-2006 03:51 AM

Re: Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
"hawkinsa21" <hawkinsa21@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162472180.246615.5430@f16g2000cwb.googlegrou ps.com...
> Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
> very helpful and knowledgable...
>
> Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
> to me.....
>
> snip
> .................................................. ..... I find that when
> turning the
> steering wheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
> take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on the steering, as if my wheels
> jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
> correct this myself on the steering column, otherwise I won't follow
> the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
> am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
> on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
> locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...
>
> snip


I had this problem on a Passatt once. It was loose bolts where the ball
joint fastens to the lower wishbone. It appeared shortly after I'd had a
wheel alignment.

HTH



5potnoodle 11-03-2006 03:51 AM

Re: Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
"hawkinsa21" <hawkinsa21@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162472180.246615.5430@f16g2000cwb.googlegrou ps.com...
> Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
> very helpful and knowledgable...
>
> Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
> to me.....
>
> snip
> .................................................. ..... I find that when
> turning the
> steering wheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
> take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on the steering, as if my wheels
> jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
> correct this myself on the steering column, otherwise I won't follow
> the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
> am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
> on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
> locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...
>
> snip


I had this problem on a Passatt once. It was loose bolts where the ball
joint fastens to the lower wishbone. It appeared shortly after I'd had a
wheel alignment.

HTH



5potnoodle 11-03-2006 03:51 AM

Re: Audi 80 - Steering knocking and slipping on 1990 2.0E model
 
"hawkinsa21" <hawkinsa21@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162472180.246615.5430@f16g2000cwb.googlegrou ps.com...
> Hi guys, found this thread whilst searching groups and you all seem
> very helpful and knowledgable...
>
> Maybe someone can assist with my query... its getting very concerning
> to me.....
>
> snip
> .................................................. ..... I find that when
> turning the
> steering wheel at any speed, i.e. to navigate a turn in the road, or
> take a corner... I get a slight 'slip' on the steering, as if my wheels
> jump in the other direction marginally... and I have to physically
> correct this myself on the steering column, otherwise I won't follow
> the original path I was taking... this is of course, VERY scary, and I
> am driving my car less and less... it happens on both sides, but more
> on the left... and it only happens once per turn.. i.e. if I am full
> locking to the left, it'll only happen the once... not repeatadely...
>
> snip


I had this problem on a Passatt once. It was loose bolts where the ball
joint fastens to the lower wishbone. It appeared shortly after I'd had a
wheel alignment.

HTH




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