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Doug Warner 07-13-2005 09:41 PM

3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 
I test drove a 3.2L A4 recently and found the tiptronic trans to be
very sluggish, especially in manual mode, where it took a full second
or more to complete a shift.

So, is there any chance the 3.2 V6 will show up in an A4 Avant in the
USA this year?

In theory, the Tip SHOULD be capable of consistently completing shifts
faster than any human could shift a manual gearbox. It's puzzling to
me that it can't.

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daytripper 07-13-2005 10:02 PM

Re: 3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:41:28 -0400, Doug Warner <dwarner22@ccharter.net>
wrote:

>I test drove a 3.2L A4 recently and found the tiptronic trans to be
>very sluggish, especially in manual mode, where it took a full second
>or more to complete a shift.
>
>So, is there any chance the 3.2 V6 will show up in an A4 Avant in the
>USA this year?
>
>In theory, the Tip SHOULD be capable of consistently completing shifts
>faster than any human could shift a manual gearbox. It's puzzling to
>me that it can't.


Because it's a slush box. It's not DSG - nor even a CVT...

daytripper 07-13-2005 10:02 PM

Re: 3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:41:28 -0400, Doug Warner <dwarner22@ccharter.net>
wrote:

>I test drove a 3.2L A4 recently and found the tiptronic trans to be
>very sluggish, especially in manual mode, where it took a full second
>or more to complete a shift.
>
>So, is there any chance the 3.2 V6 will show up in an A4 Avant in the
>USA this year?
>
>In theory, the Tip SHOULD be capable of consistently completing shifts
>faster than any human could shift a manual gearbox. It's puzzling to
>me that it can't.


Because it's a slush box. It's not DSG - nor even a CVT...

daytripper 07-13-2005 10:02 PM

Re: 3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:41:28 -0400, Doug Warner <dwarner22@ccharter.net>
wrote:

>I test drove a 3.2L A4 recently and found the tiptronic trans to be
>very sluggish, especially in manual mode, where it took a full second
>or more to complete a shift.
>
>So, is there any chance the 3.2 V6 will show up in an A4 Avant in the
>USA this year?
>
>In theory, the Tip SHOULD be capable of consistently completing shifts
>faster than any human could shift a manual gearbox. It's puzzling to
>me that it can't.


Because it's a slush box. It's not DSG - nor even a CVT...

daytripper 07-13-2005 10:02 PM

Re: 3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:41:28 -0400, Doug Warner <dwarner22@ccharter.net>
wrote:

>I test drove a 3.2L A4 recently and found the tiptronic trans to be
>very sluggish, especially in manual mode, where it took a full second
>or more to complete a shift.
>
>So, is there any chance the 3.2 V6 will show up in an A4 Avant in the
>USA this year?
>
>In theory, the Tip SHOULD be capable of consistently completing shifts
>faster than any human could shift a manual gearbox. It's puzzling to
>me that it can't.


Because it's a slush box. It's not DSG - nor even a CVT...

Dano58 07-14-2005 09:25 AM

Re: 3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 
Right, the auto trans uses fluids to control shifting, so it will never
be as quick or crisp as a manual transmission - which has a direct
connection, via the clutch, to the engine. The DSG is simply a manual
transmission with an automatic clutch. Frankly, I see Audi offering the
DSG with the 3.2 before they offer a traditional manual transmission.

Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA


Dano58 07-14-2005 09:25 AM

Re: 3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 
Right, the auto trans uses fluids to control shifting, so it will never
be as quick or crisp as a manual transmission - which has a direct
connection, via the clutch, to the engine. The DSG is simply a manual
transmission with an automatic clutch. Frankly, I see Audi offering the
DSG with the 3.2 before they offer a traditional manual transmission.

Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA


Dano58 07-14-2005 09:25 AM

Re: 3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 
Right, the auto trans uses fluids to control shifting, so it will never
be as quick or crisp as a manual transmission - which has a direct
connection, via the clutch, to the engine. The DSG is simply a manual
transmission with an automatic clutch. Frankly, I see Audi offering the
DSG with the 3.2 before they offer a traditional manual transmission.

Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA


Dano58 07-14-2005 09:25 AM

Re: 3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 
Right, the auto trans uses fluids to control shifting, so it will never
be as quick or crisp as a manual transmission - which has a direct
connection, via the clutch, to the engine. The DSG is simply a manual
transmission with an automatic clutch. Frankly, I see Audi offering the
DSG with the 3.2 before they offer a traditional manual transmission.

Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA


Ronny 07-14-2005 11:12 AM

Re: 3.2 A4, manual trans in USA?
 

"Dano58" <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121351106.538506.52610@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Right, the auto trans uses fluids to control shifting, so it will never
> be as quick or crisp as a manual transmission - which has a direct
> connection, via the clutch, to the engine. The DSG is simply a manual
> transmission with an automatic clutch. Frankly, I see Audi offering the
> DSG with the 3.2 before they offer a traditional manual transmission.
>
> Dan D
> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> Central NJ USA
>


DSG is a bit more than "just" manual transmission, it is like having 2
gearboxs. The next gear is always engaged so there is no delay in the
change. It's about the only way you can make a Auto car change as quick as a
manual :)




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