2003 S4 engine question
Does the 4.2 V8 have a cam belt, or a chain? I saw some pictures with a
chain, so I guess its the latter, but I am not totally sure. Thanks, Chip. |
Re: 2003 S4 engine question
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:35:02 +0100, "Chip" <AnneOnymouse@virgin.net> wrote:
>Does the 4.2 V8 have a cam belt, or a chain? I saw some pictures with a >chain, so I guess its the latter, but I am not totally sure. It uses a chain - which is a damned good thing considering it is at the *back* of the engine ;-) |
Re: 2003 S4 engine question
They went to a chain because it was narrower than the belt. With a belt the
engine didn't fit in. "Chip" <AnneOnymouse@virgin.net> wrote in message news:bivas6$djfem$1@ID-185713.news.uni-berlin.de... > Does the 4.2 V8 have a cam belt, or a chain? I saw some pictures with a > chain, so I guess its the latter, but I am not totally sure. > > Thanks, > > Chip. > > |
Re: 2003 S4 engine question
"Charles Fox" <cafox513@gte.net> wrote in message
news:1sw6b.8331$98.4931@nwrddc03.gnilink.net... > They went to a chain because it was narrower than the belt. With a belt the > engine didn't fit in. > > "Chip" <AnneOnymouse@virgin.net> wrote in message > news:bivas6$djfem$1@ID-185713.news.uni-berlin.de... > > Does the 4.2 V8 have a cam belt, or a chain? I saw some pictures with a > > chain, so I guess its the latter, but I am not totally sure. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chip. I thought that relocating the cam drive to the rear of the engine was the space-saving feature. The switch to a chain from a belt was because the new rearward location made regular changes of a belt impractical. This might be a dumb question, but why doesn't Audi do away with timing belts on *every* engine? FTM, why don't *all* auto manufacturers do away with them? A chain drive -- or even better yet, direct gear drive -- for the camshaft(s) is much more reliable than a belt. No more worrying about whether Audi's service recommendations are accurate; no more multi-thousand-dollar engine repair bills if you ignorantly believe Audi's exaggerated timing belt longevity claims. No longer will essentially complete and immediate obliteration of the engine be the collateral result of a seized water pump or tension roller. Do chain- or gear-driven camshafts generate too much noise? Do they impose additional drag on the engine? Are they that much more expensive than belts? Or are most automakers simply unconcerned about the long-term reliability of their cars? A cynic would claim that the automakers intentionally build their cars to fail shortly after the warranty period, because vehicle longevity reduces new car sales. Personally, I've never accepted this claim. But sometimes the evidence does seem to point in that direction. There must be a reason why belts continue to be used to drive engines' camshafts (other than Audi's secret desire for all their cars to die 4 years after they're built). Can anyone offer some insight as to what this reason might be? - Greg -- 1976 Cadillac Fleetwood 9-passenger sedan 1989 Audi 200TQ sedan 1990 Audi V8Q 2000 Oldsmobile Intrigue 2001 Chevy Astro AWD |
Re: 2003 S4 engine question
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rovplv8qgrh73ohsibcbc8gnqbn0p6tfam@4ax.com... <snip> > Audi is hardly alone with cam belts in their engine line-up, I bet most > mainstream engines are belt driven these days. > > Belts are usually quieter than chain drives, and are usually lighter than > chain drives. Gear drives are difficult to eliminate excess lash (something > tensioners do for chains and belts) and tend to whine. I guess my personal preference for bullet-proof dependability over aesthetics (and even at a modest weight expense) are trumped by others' preferences (for reduced weight and noise) and for other design considerations. And I honestly hadn't thought about lash in a gear-driven setup. Actually, the only gear-driven cams I've ever seen were on older GM 8-cylinder engines. (I'm not even sure whether they were aftermarket-only or available right from the factory.) They appeared to be indestructible, which is why that design sticks in my head. Perhaps sloppy timing (as would result from excessive gear lash) isn't as detrimental to these older engines as it would be to modern ones. - Greg -- 1976 Cadillac Fleetwood 9-passenger sedan 1989 Audi 200TQ sedan 1990 Audi V8Q 2000 Oldsmobile Intrigue 2001 Chevy Astro AWD |
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