2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
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Re: 2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
<sst117@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153272839.293692.204490@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for all the replies.
>
> So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> indeed ridiculous.
>
> The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
>
> Thanks again for all the replies.
I recently bought a 2001 A4 Avant 1.8t Sport privately - very low mileage,
still had something like 11,000 miles till next service, only done 100 miles
or so in the last year.
Driving back from the sale, at around 70miles in (and having put my foot
down quite a few times), the oil pressure warning light came on. Checked the
oil, plenty there.Waited a few minutes, drove on again, light stayed off for
another 30 miles. Called Audi dealer, they said it sounded like it needed a
good run, but to call my local garage who have a good rep. Local garage said
it sounded like a faulty fuel pressure switch. Booked in for an oil and
filter change and to have the switch replaced. All done, new switch has been
redesigned, car working beautifully (couple of thousand miles later.) The
sensor cost me around £10 (ten pounds sterling.) Total "repair" job cost me
£65 (including oil and filter change.)
Btw, I tested the car afterwards, driving it like a maniac for 95 miles
straight, and really flooring it after the 70mile mark (which is when it
first manifested.) No problem. We then drove from Scotland to the south
coast of England - no problem. Then from London back to Edinburgh. No
problem.
news:1153272839.293692.204490@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for all the replies.
>
> So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> indeed ridiculous.
>
> The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
>
> Thanks again for all the replies.
I recently bought a 2001 A4 Avant 1.8t Sport privately - very low mileage,
still had something like 11,000 miles till next service, only done 100 miles
or so in the last year.
Driving back from the sale, at around 70miles in (and having put my foot
down quite a few times), the oil pressure warning light came on. Checked the
oil, plenty there.Waited a few minutes, drove on again, light stayed off for
another 30 miles. Called Audi dealer, they said it sounded like it needed a
good run, but to call my local garage who have a good rep. Local garage said
it sounded like a faulty fuel pressure switch. Booked in for an oil and
filter change and to have the switch replaced. All done, new switch has been
redesigned, car working beautifully (couple of thousand miles later.) The
sensor cost me around £10 (ten pounds sterling.) Total "repair" job cost me
£65 (including oil and filter change.)
Btw, I tested the car afterwards, driving it like a maniac for 95 miles
straight, and really flooring it after the 70mile mark (which is when it
first manifested.) No problem. We then drove from Scotland to the south
coast of England - no problem. Then from London back to Edinburgh. No
problem.
#22
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Re: 2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
I have already paid for the repair, and did not ask them to
keep the replaced parts. I could be that the screen was
a problem and the sensor was bad as well. It seems like
there's no way of knowing. I am still going to talk with them
about it. Any suggestions for a better way than just asking
them whether they mis-diagnosed the first time? Thanks.
Tony wrote:
> I think that their mis-diagnosis of the screen should be their responsibility
> (and cost). Seem quite clear to me.
>
> They are grasping at straws about the oil change interval.
>
> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> > a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> > fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> > 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> > late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> > dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> > indeed ridiculous.
> >
> > The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> > says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> > and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> > their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> > asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> > they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> > (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> > camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> > or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
> >
> > Thanks again for all the replies.
> >
> >
> > Dano58 wrote:
> >
> >>sst117@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
> >>>2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
> >>>and they found out that the screen leading up to
> >>>the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
> >>>me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
> >>>covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
> >>>a service. In reality, after the warranty period
> >>>got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
> >>>miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
> >>>no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
> >>>and another at 72K).
> >>>
> >>>I had thought of following up with Audi after I
> >>>got the car back. After I got the car back, the
> >>>oil pressure light came on again the very next day
> >>>- after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
> >>>So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
> >>>are trying to figure out what's wrong.
> >>>
> >>>What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
> >>>Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
> >>>oil changes and services done at an authorized
> >>>dealership.
> >>>
> >>>Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
> >>>permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
> >>>to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
> >>>congestion.
> >>
> >>There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
> >>'audi sludge' or something similar.
> >>
> >>The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
> >>engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
> >>inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
> >>deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
> >>
> >>If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
> >>Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
> >>done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
> >>is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
> >>considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
> >>getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
> >>
> >>Here is one good reference -
> >>
> >>http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
> >>
> >>Good luck....
> >>
> >>Dan D
> >>'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> >>Central NJ USA
> >
> >
keep the replaced parts. I could be that the screen was
a problem and the sensor was bad as well. It seems like
there's no way of knowing. I am still going to talk with them
about it. Any suggestions for a better way than just asking
them whether they mis-diagnosed the first time? Thanks.
Tony wrote:
> I think that their mis-diagnosis of the screen should be their responsibility
> (and cost). Seem quite clear to me.
>
> They are grasping at straws about the oil change interval.
>
> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> > a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> > fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> > 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> > late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> > dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> > indeed ridiculous.
> >
> > The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> > says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> > and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> > their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> > asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> > they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> > (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> > camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> > or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
> >
> > Thanks again for all the replies.
> >
> >
> > Dano58 wrote:
> >
> >>sst117@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
> >>>2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
> >>>and they found out that the screen leading up to
> >>>the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
> >>>me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
> >>>covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
> >>>a service. In reality, after the warranty period
> >>>got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
> >>>miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
> >>>no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
> >>>and another at 72K).
> >>>
> >>>I had thought of following up with Audi after I
> >>>got the car back. After I got the car back, the
> >>>oil pressure light came on again the very next day
> >>>- after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
> >>>So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
> >>>are trying to figure out what's wrong.
> >>>
> >>>What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
> >>>Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
> >>>oil changes and services done at an authorized
> >>>dealership.
> >>>
> >>>Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
> >>>permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
> >>>to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
> >>>congestion.
> >>
> >>There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
> >>'audi sludge' or something similar.
> >>
> >>The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
> >>engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
> >>inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
> >>deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
> >>
> >>If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
> >>Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
> >>done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
> >>is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
> >>considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
> >>getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
> >>
> >>Here is one good reference -
> >>
> >>http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
> >>
> >>Good luck....
> >>
> >>Dan D
> >>'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> >>Central NJ USA
> >
> >
#23
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Re: 2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
I have already paid for the repair, and did not ask them to
keep the replaced parts. I could be that the screen was
a problem and the sensor was bad as well. It seems like
there's no way of knowing. I am still going to talk with them
about it. Any suggestions for a better way than just asking
them whether they mis-diagnosed the first time? Thanks.
Tony wrote:
> I think that their mis-diagnosis of the screen should be their responsibility
> (and cost). Seem quite clear to me.
>
> They are grasping at straws about the oil change interval.
>
> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> > a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> > fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> > 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> > late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> > dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> > indeed ridiculous.
> >
> > The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> > says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> > and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> > their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> > asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> > they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> > (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> > camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> > or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
> >
> > Thanks again for all the replies.
> >
> >
> > Dano58 wrote:
> >
> >>sst117@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
> >>>2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
> >>>and they found out that the screen leading up to
> >>>the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
> >>>me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
> >>>covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
> >>>a service. In reality, after the warranty period
> >>>got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
> >>>miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
> >>>no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
> >>>and another at 72K).
> >>>
> >>>I had thought of following up with Audi after I
> >>>got the car back. After I got the car back, the
> >>>oil pressure light came on again the very next day
> >>>- after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
> >>>So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
> >>>are trying to figure out what's wrong.
> >>>
> >>>What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
> >>>Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
> >>>oil changes and services done at an authorized
> >>>dealership.
> >>>
> >>>Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
> >>>permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
> >>>to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
> >>>congestion.
> >>
> >>There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
> >>'audi sludge' or something similar.
> >>
> >>The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
> >>engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
> >>inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
> >>deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
> >>
> >>If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
> >>Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
> >>done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
> >>is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
> >>considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
> >>getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
> >>
> >>Here is one good reference -
> >>
> >>http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
> >>
> >>Good luck....
> >>
> >>Dan D
> >>'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> >>Central NJ USA
> >
> >
keep the replaced parts. I could be that the screen was
a problem and the sensor was bad as well. It seems like
there's no way of knowing. I am still going to talk with them
about it. Any suggestions for a better way than just asking
them whether they mis-diagnosed the first time? Thanks.
Tony wrote:
> I think that their mis-diagnosis of the screen should be their responsibility
> (and cost). Seem quite clear to me.
>
> They are grasping at straws about the oil change interval.
>
> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> > a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> > fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> > 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> > late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> > dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> > indeed ridiculous.
> >
> > The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> > says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> > and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> > their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> > asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> > they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> > (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> > camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> > or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
> >
> > Thanks again for all the replies.
> >
> >
> > Dano58 wrote:
> >
> >>sst117@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
> >>>2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
> >>>and they found out that the screen leading up to
> >>>the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
> >>>me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
> >>>covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
> >>>a service. In reality, after the warranty period
> >>>got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
> >>>miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
> >>>no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
> >>>and another at 72K).
> >>>
> >>>I had thought of following up with Audi after I
> >>>got the car back. After I got the car back, the
> >>>oil pressure light came on again the very next day
> >>>- after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
> >>>So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
> >>>are trying to figure out what's wrong.
> >>>
> >>>What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
> >>>Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
> >>>oil changes and services done at an authorized
> >>>dealership.
> >>>
> >>>Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
> >>>permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
> >>>to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
> >>>congestion.
> >>
> >>There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
> >>'audi sludge' or something similar.
> >>
> >>The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
> >>engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
> >>inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
> >>deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
> >>
> >>If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
> >>Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
> >>done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
> >>is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
> >>considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
> >>getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
> >>
> >>Here is one good reference -
> >>
> >>http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
> >>
> >>Good luck....
> >>
> >>Dan D
> >>'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> >>Central NJ USA
> >
> >
#24
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Re: 2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
I have already paid for the repair, and did not ask them to
keep the replaced parts. I could be that the screen was
a problem and the sensor was bad as well. It seems like
there's no way of knowing. I am still going to talk with them
about it. Any suggestions for a better way than just asking
them whether they mis-diagnosed the first time? Thanks.
Tony wrote:
> I think that their mis-diagnosis of the screen should be their responsibility
> (and cost). Seem quite clear to me.
>
> They are grasping at straws about the oil change interval.
>
> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> > a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> > fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> > 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> > late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> > dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> > indeed ridiculous.
> >
> > The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> > says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> > and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> > their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> > asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> > they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> > (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> > camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> > or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
> >
> > Thanks again for all the replies.
> >
> >
> > Dano58 wrote:
> >
> >>sst117@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
> >>>2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
> >>>and they found out that the screen leading up to
> >>>the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
> >>>me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
> >>>covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
> >>>a service. In reality, after the warranty period
> >>>got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
> >>>miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
> >>>no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
> >>>and another at 72K).
> >>>
> >>>I had thought of following up with Audi after I
> >>>got the car back. After I got the car back, the
> >>>oil pressure light came on again the very next day
> >>>- after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
> >>>So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
> >>>are trying to figure out what's wrong.
> >>>
> >>>What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
> >>>Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
> >>>oil changes and services done at an authorized
> >>>dealership.
> >>>
> >>>Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
> >>>permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
> >>>to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
> >>>congestion.
> >>
> >>There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
> >>'audi sludge' or something similar.
> >>
> >>The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
> >>engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
> >>inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
> >>deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
> >>
> >>If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
> >>Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
> >>done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
> >>is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
> >>considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
> >>getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
> >>
> >>Here is one good reference -
> >>
> >>http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
> >>
> >>Good luck....
> >>
> >>Dan D
> >>'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> >>Central NJ USA
> >
> >
keep the replaced parts. I could be that the screen was
a problem and the sensor was bad as well. It seems like
there's no way of knowing. I am still going to talk with them
about it. Any suggestions for a better way than just asking
them whether they mis-diagnosed the first time? Thanks.
Tony wrote:
> I think that their mis-diagnosis of the screen should be their responsibility
> (and cost). Seem quite clear to me.
>
> They are grasping at straws about the oil change interval.
>
> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> > a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> > fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> > 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> > late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> > dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> > indeed ridiculous.
> >
> > The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> > says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> > and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> > their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> > asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> > they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> > (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> > camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> > or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
> >
> > Thanks again for all the replies.
> >
> >
> > Dano58 wrote:
> >
> >>sst117@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
> >>>2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
> >>>and they found out that the screen leading up to
> >>>the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
> >>>me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
> >>>covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
> >>>a service. In reality, after the warranty period
> >>>got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
> >>>miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
> >>>no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
> >>>and another at 72K).
> >>>
> >>>I had thought of following up with Audi after I
> >>>got the car back. After I got the car back, the
> >>>oil pressure light came on again the very next day
> >>>- after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
> >>>So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
> >>>are trying to figure out what's wrong.
> >>>
> >>>What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
> >>>Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
> >>>oil changes and services done at an authorized
> >>>dealership.
> >>>
> >>>Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
> >>>permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
> >>>to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
> >>>congestion.
> >>
> >>There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
> >>'audi sludge' or something similar.
> >>
> >>The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
> >>engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
> >>inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
> >>deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
> >>
> >>If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
> >>Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
> >>done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
> >>is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
> >>considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
> >>getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
> >>
> >>Here is one good reference -
> >>
> >>http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
> >>
> >>Good luck....
> >>
> >>Dan D
> >>'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> >>Central NJ USA
> >
> >
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Re: 2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
I have already paid for the repair, and did not ask them to
keep the replaced parts. I could be that the screen was
a problem and the sensor was bad as well. It seems like
there's no way of knowing. I am still going to talk with them
about it. Any suggestions for a better way than just asking
them whether they mis-diagnosed the first time? Thanks.
Tony wrote:
> I think that their mis-diagnosis of the screen should be their responsibility
> (and cost). Seem quite clear to me.
>
> They are grasping at straws about the oil change interval.
>
> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> > a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> > fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> > 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> > late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> > dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> > indeed ridiculous.
> >
> > The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> > says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> > and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> > their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> > asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> > they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> > (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> > camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> > or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
> >
> > Thanks again for all the replies.
> >
> >
> > Dano58 wrote:
> >
> >>sst117@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
> >>>2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
> >>>and they found out that the screen leading up to
> >>>the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
> >>>me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
> >>>covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
> >>>a service. In reality, after the warranty period
> >>>got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
> >>>miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
> >>>no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
> >>>and another at 72K).
> >>>
> >>>I had thought of following up with Audi after I
> >>>got the car back. After I got the car back, the
> >>>oil pressure light came on again the very next day
> >>>- after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
> >>>So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
> >>>are trying to figure out what's wrong.
> >>>
> >>>What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
> >>>Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
> >>>oil changes and services done at an authorized
> >>>dealership.
> >>>
> >>>Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
> >>>permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
> >>>to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
> >>>congestion.
> >>
> >>There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
> >>'audi sludge' or something similar.
> >>
> >>The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
> >>engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
> >>inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
> >>deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
> >>
> >>If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
> >>Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
> >>done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
> >>is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
> >>considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
> >>getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
> >>
> >>Here is one good reference -
> >>
> >>http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
> >>
> >>Good luck....
> >>
> >>Dan D
> >>'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> >>Central NJ USA
> >
> >
keep the replaced parts. I could be that the screen was
a problem and the sensor was bad as well. It seems like
there's no way of knowing. I am still going to talk with them
about it. Any suggestions for a better way than just asking
them whether they mis-diagnosed the first time? Thanks.
Tony wrote:
> I think that their mis-diagnosis of the screen should be their responsibility
> (and cost). Seem quite clear to me.
>
> They are grasping at straws about the oil change interval.
>
> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
> > a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
> > fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
> > 40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
> > late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
> > dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
> > indeed ridiculous.
> >
> > The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
> > says they are continuously running the engine at idle
> > and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
> > their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
> > asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
> > they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
> > (when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
> > camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
> > or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
> >
> > Thanks again for all the replies.
> >
> >
> > Dano58 wrote:
> >
> >>sst117@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
> >>>2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
> >>>and they found out that the screen leading up to
> >>>the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
> >>>me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
> >>>covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
> >>>a service. In reality, after the warranty period
> >>>got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
> >>>miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
> >>>no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
> >>>and another at 72K).
> >>>
> >>>I had thought of following up with Audi after I
> >>>got the car back. After I got the car back, the
> >>>oil pressure light came on again the very next day
> >>>- after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
> >>>So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
> >>>are trying to figure out what's wrong.
> >>>
> >>>What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
> >>>Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
> >>>oil changes and services done at an authorized
> >>>dealership.
> >>>
> >>>Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
> >>>permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
> >>>to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
> >>>congestion.
> >>
> >>There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
> >>'audi sludge' or something similar.
> >>
> >>The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
> >>engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
> >>inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
> >>deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
> >>
> >>If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
> >>Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
> >>done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
> >>is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
> >>considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
> >>getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
> >>
> >>Here is one good reference -
> >>
> >>http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
> >>
> >>Good luck....
> >>
> >>Dan D
> >>'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> >>Central NJ USA
> >
> >
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Re: 2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
Just for the record, Audi (U.S.) will cover oil sludge problems if
owners can show they're not at fault. I bought my used 2001 1.8 A4
from a dealer with 36k on it and an extended warranty -- one of the
little checkmarks on the dealer guarantee, remember, says the oil is
topped off and OK. I hit the oil sludge wall at about 40k at speed on
the Ohio turnpike, but managed to get it off and to a repair shop w/o
major engine damage (except to turbo lines). Audi eventually ponied up
for everything, including new turbochargers and the $700 oil screen
cleanout in Ohio so I could drive it back to New Jersey (sans turbo,
don't try it) dealership. Now drives like new (or is it just me?)
On 18 Jul 2006 18:33:59 -0700, sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>Thanks for all the replies.
>
>So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
>a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
>fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
>40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
>late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
>dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
>indeed ridiculous.
>
>The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
>says they are continuously running the engine at idle
>and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
>their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
>asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
>they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
>(when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
>camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
>or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
>
>Thanks again for all the replies.
>
>
>Dano58 wrote:
>> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>> > A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
>> > 2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
>> > and they found out that the screen leading up to
>> > the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
>> > me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
>> > covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
>> > a service. In reality, after the warranty period
>> > got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
>> > miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
>> > no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
>> > and another at 72K).
>> >
>> > I had thought of following up with Audi after I
>> > got the car back. After I got the car back, the
>> > oil pressure light came on again the very next day
>> > - after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
>> > So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
>> > are trying to figure out what's wrong.
>> >
>> > What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
>> > Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
>> > oil changes and services done at an authorized
>> > dealership.
>> >
>> > Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
>> > permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
>> > to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
>> > congestion.
>>
>> There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
>> 'audi sludge' or something similar.
>>
>> The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
>> engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
>> inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
>> deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
>>
>> If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
>> Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
>> done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
>> is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
>> considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
>> getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
>>
>> Here is one good reference -
>>
>> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
>>
>> Good luck....
>>
>> Dan D
>> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
>> Central NJ USA
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Re: 2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
Just for the record, Audi (U.S.) will cover oil sludge problems if
owners can show they're not at fault. I bought my used 2001 1.8 A4
from a dealer with 36k on it and an extended warranty -- one of the
little checkmarks on the dealer guarantee, remember, says the oil is
topped off and OK. I hit the oil sludge wall at about 40k at speed on
the Ohio turnpike, but managed to get it off and to a repair shop w/o
major engine damage (except to turbo lines). Audi eventually ponied up
for everything, including new turbochargers and the $700 oil screen
cleanout in Ohio so I could drive it back to New Jersey (sans turbo,
don't try it) dealership. Now drives like new (or is it just me?)
On 18 Jul 2006 18:33:59 -0700, sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>Thanks for all the replies.
>
>So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
>a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
>fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
>40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
>late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
>dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
>indeed ridiculous.
>
>The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
>says they are continuously running the engine at idle
>and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
>their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
>asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
>they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
>(when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
>camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
>or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
>
>Thanks again for all the replies.
>
>
>Dano58 wrote:
>> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>> > A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
>> > 2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
>> > and they found out that the screen leading up to
>> > the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
>> > me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
>> > covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
>> > a service. In reality, after the warranty period
>> > got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
>> > miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
>> > no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
>> > and another at 72K).
>> >
>> > I had thought of following up with Audi after I
>> > got the car back. After I got the car back, the
>> > oil pressure light came on again the very next day
>> > - after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
>> > So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
>> > are trying to figure out what's wrong.
>> >
>> > What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
>> > Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
>> > oil changes and services done at an authorized
>> > dealership.
>> >
>> > Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
>> > permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
>> > to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
>> > congestion.
>>
>> There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
>> 'audi sludge' or something similar.
>>
>> The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
>> engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
>> inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
>> deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
>>
>> If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
>> Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
>> done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
>> is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
>> considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
>> getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
>>
>> Here is one good reference -
>>
>> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
>>
>> Good luck....
>>
>> Dan D
>> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
>> Central NJ USA
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Re: 2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
Just for the record, Audi (U.S.) will cover oil sludge problems if
owners can show they're not at fault. I bought my used 2001 1.8 A4
from a dealer with 36k on it and an extended warranty -- one of the
little checkmarks on the dealer guarantee, remember, says the oil is
topped off and OK. I hit the oil sludge wall at about 40k at speed on
the Ohio turnpike, but managed to get it off and to a repair shop w/o
major engine damage (except to turbo lines). Audi eventually ponied up
for everything, including new turbochargers and the $700 oil screen
cleanout in Ohio so I could drive it back to New Jersey (sans turbo,
don't try it) dealership. Now drives like new (or is it just me?)
On 18 Jul 2006 18:33:59 -0700, sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>Thanks for all the replies.
>
>So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
>a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
>fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
>40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
>late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
>dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
>indeed ridiculous.
>
>The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
>says they are continuously running the engine at idle
>and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
>their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
>asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
>they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
>(when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
>camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
>or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
>
>Thanks again for all the replies.
>
>
>Dano58 wrote:
>> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>> > A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
>> > 2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
>> > and they found out that the screen leading up to
>> > the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
>> > me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
>> > covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
>> > a service. In reality, after the warranty period
>> > got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
>> > miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
>> > no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
>> > and another at 72K).
>> >
>> > I had thought of following up with Audi after I
>> > got the car back. After I got the car back, the
>> > oil pressure light came on again the very next day
>> > - after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
>> > So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
>> > are trying to figure out what's wrong.
>> >
>> > What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
>> > Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
>> > oil changes and services done at an authorized
>> > dealership.
>> >
>> > Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
>> > permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
>> > to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
>> > congestion.
>>
>> There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
>> 'audi sludge' or something similar.
>>
>> The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
>> engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
>> inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
>> deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
>>
>> If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
>> Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
>> done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
>> is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
>> considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
>> getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
>>
>> Here is one good reference -
>>
>> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
>>
>> Good luck....
>>
>> Dan D
>> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
>> Central NJ USA
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 A4 1.8.T sludge problem
Just for the record, Audi (U.S.) will cover oil sludge problems if
owners can show they're not at fault. I bought my used 2001 1.8 A4
from a dealer with 36k on it and an extended warranty -- one of the
little checkmarks on the dealer guarantee, remember, says the oil is
topped off and OK. I hit the oil sludge wall at about 40k at speed on
the Ohio turnpike, but managed to get it off and to a repair shop w/o
major engine damage (except to turbo lines). Audi eventually ponied up
for everything, including new turbochargers and the $700 oil screen
cleanout in Ohio so I could drive it back to New Jersey (sans turbo,
don't try it) dealership. Now drives like new (or is it just me?)
On 18 Jul 2006 18:33:59 -0700, sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>Thanks for all the replies.
>
>So, I clarified what the dealership meant by I missing
>a service. They say that my post-warranty records are
>fine. But while being in the warranty period, my
>40K service was done "a couple of hunderd miles" too
>late. I called up Audi too, and after speaking with the
>dealership, they gave me the same answer. This is
>indeed ridiculous.
>
>The current problem seems to be the sensor. Dealership
>says they are continuously running the engine at idle
>and at one point the low pressure light came on, although
>their guage showed the pressure was fine. I also
>asked about cleaning the engine, and they told me that
>they had opened the top cover during my previous visit
>(when the pick up screen was changed) and checked the
>camshaft etc. They did not find any signs of scorring
>or sludge. Should I be satisfied?
>
>Thanks again for all the replies.
>
>
>Dano58 wrote:
>> sst117@gmail.com wrote:
>> > A week ago the oil pressure warning light in my
>> > 2001 A4 1.8T came on. I took it to the dealership
>> > and they found out that the screen leading up to
>> > the oil pump was totally clogged. The repair cost
>> > me $2600. The dealership tried to get the repair
>> > covered by Audi, who refused, saying I had missed
>> > a service. In reality, after the warranty period
>> > got over, I have got oil changes done every 6000
>> > miles. I had the 60K and 80K services done, but
>> > no full service at 70K (an oil change at 66K,
>> > and another at 72K).
>> >
>> > I had thought of following up with Audi after I
>> > got the car back. After I got the car back, the
>> > oil pressure light came on again the very next day
>> > - after I had driven the car for only 25 miles more.
>> > So, now the car is back at the dealership and they
>> > are trying to figure out what's wrong.
>> >
>> > What are my options at this point? For the 2001 year,
>> > Audi recommended oil changes every 10K. I got ALL
>> > oil changes and services done at an authorized
>> > dealership.
>> >
>> > Will these guys be able to figure out whether there's
>> > permanent engine damage? The next thing they plan
>> > to look at is the oil pump, which itself might have
>> > congestion.
>>
>> There's a lot of info out there on this issue. Do a Google search on
>> 'audi sludge' or something similar.
>>
>> The problem is, they can't just replace the oil pump screen, the entire
>> engine needs to be cleaned out. You should be able to tell by looking
>> inside the oil filler - everything should be relatively clean, no black
>> deposits. Unfortunately, this sludge problem creates a lot of issues.
>>
>> If it were me, I would spend a lot of time geting my records together.
>> Put together a sheet with all of the oil and filter changes, when
>> done, what oil used (if you can figure that out), etc. Audi of America
>> is very picky when it comes to paying for this repair, which sucks
>> considering that owners following their service intervals are the ones
>> getting screwed here, not just owners that ignore the services.
>>
>> Here is one good reference -
>>
>> http://members.***.net/ambox/audi_sl...%20a%20problem
>>
>> Good luck....
>>
>> Dan D
>> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
>> Central NJ USA
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