1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

I took my A4 into the Audi dealer today due to excessive exhaust noise.
They determined it is both catalytic converters which are covered under
warranty. (Thank God, $1900 each).

Anyway, the dealer says I should change out the oxygen sensors while they do
the catalytics. This will cost over $900 and apparently it should be done,
eventhough all 4 o2 sensors are not reading faulty. Apparently it is a 4-5
hour job to change these sensors.

Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Would it be a waste of
money to change the sensors now?

Thanks for any help.

Re: 1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

If it were me, I would not have them do it - if they do end up going
later, you can them done MUCH less expensively at an indepedent shop.
$900 is way too much. This topic is being discussed on the Audifan's
quattro list, on a 2000 Passat GLS and the numbers being thrown around
are m ore like $50 - $100 each, parts and labor...

Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA

Re: 1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

If it were me, I would not have them do it - if they do end up going
later, you can them done MUCH less expensively at an indepedent shop.
$900 is way too much. This topic is being discussed on the Audifan's
quattro list, on a 2000 Passat GLS and the numbers being thrown around
are m ore like $50 - $100 each, parts and labor...

Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA

Re: 1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

If it were me, I would not have them do it - if they do end up going
later, you can them done MUCH less expensively at an indepedent shop.
$900 is way too much. This topic is being discussed on the Audifan's
quattro list, on a 2000 Passat GLS and the numbers being thrown around
are m ore like $50 - $100 each, parts and labor...

Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA

Re: 1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

NV,
No way - don't let them pick your pocket. It may be so that they'd be
charging you 4 to 5 hours by the book to change the sensors, but they'd have
the car opened up to service the cats, so that $900 is essentially for the 4
sensors themselves. You can go to your local auto parts store, buy a
generic 2, 3, or 4 wire sensor and splice it into the Audi harness (I got a
3-wire Bosch for my 5ktq from Canadian Tire for around $40). And that's if
they're not working (which they probably are). The cats probably broke up
from vibration - I've heard of that happening alot - not from a mass OXS
malfunction.
That's what's called a "Plus Sell", like when a shoe store tries to sell you
running shocks with a new set of running shoes. Except the store is paying
for your replacement shoes, and so they're trying to soak you with a set of
$900 socks.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - running happily with a generic, spliced-in OXS, on the
original cat, passed emissions with flying colours last year, one more test
to go........
1980 Audi 5k - no OXS, no Cat, no worries
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - No.....(where do I start?)
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)

"NV_BC" <nvanbc@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:5nlqe.1638508$Xk.1217626@pd7tw3no...
> I took my A4 into the Audi dealer today due to excessive exhaust noise.
> They determined it is both catalytic converters which are covered under
> warranty. (Thank God, $1900 each).
>
> Anyway, the dealer says I should change out the oxygen sensors while they
do
> the catalytics. This will cost over $900 and apparently it should be
done,
> eventhough all 4 o2 sensors are not reading faulty. Apparently it is a
4-5
> hour job to change these sensors.
>
> Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Would it be a waste
of
> money to change the sensors now?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>

Re: 1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

NV,
No way - don't let them pick your pocket. It may be so that they'd be
charging you 4 to 5 hours by the book to change the sensors, but they'd have
the car opened up to service the cats, so that $900 is essentially for the 4
sensors themselves. You can go to your local auto parts store, buy a
generic 2, 3, or 4 wire sensor and splice it into the Audi harness (I got a
3-wire Bosch for my 5ktq from Canadian Tire for around $40). And that's if
they're not working (which they probably are). The cats probably broke up
from vibration - I've heard of that happening alot - not from a mass OXS
malfunction.
That's what's called a "Plus Sell", like when a shoe store tries to sell you
running shocks with a new set of running shoes. Except the store is paying
for your replacement shoes, and so they're trying to soak you with a set of
$900 socks.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - running happily with a generic, spliced-in OXS, on the
original cat, passed emissions with flying colours last year, one more test
to go........
1980 Audi 5k - no OXS, no Cat, no worries
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - No.....(where do I start?)
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)

"NV_BC" <nvanbc@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:5nlqe.1638508$Xk.1217626@pd7tw3no...
> I took my A4 into the Audi dealer today due to excessive exhaust noise.
> They determined it is both catalytic converters which are covered under
> warranty. (Thank God, $1900 each).
>
> Anyway, the dealer says I should change out the oxygen sensors while they
do
> the catalytics. This will cost over $900 and apparently it should be
done,
> eventhough all 4 o2 sensors are not reading faulty. Apparently it is a
4-5
> hour job to change these sensors.
>
> Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Would it be a waste
of
> money to change the sensors now?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>

Re: 1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

NV,
No way - don't let them pick your pocket. It may be so that they'd be
charging you 4 to 5 hours by the book to change the sensors, but they'd have
the car opened up to service the cats, so that $900 is essentially for the 4
sensors themselves. You can go to your local auto parts store, buy a
generic 2, 3, or 4 wire sensor and splice it into the Audi harness (I got a
3-wire Bosch for my 5ktq from Canadian Tire for around $40). And that's if
they're not working (which they probably are). The cats probably broke up
from vibration - I've heard of that happening alot - not from a mass OXS
malfunction.
That's what's called a "Plus Sell", like when a shoe store tries to sell you
running shocks with a new set of running shoes. Except the store is paying
for your replacement shoes, and so they're trying to soak you with a set of
$900 socks.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - running happily with a generic, spliced-in OXS, on the
original cat, passed emissions with flying colours last year, one more test
to go........
1980 Audi 5k - no OXS, no Cat, no worries
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - No.....(where do I start?)
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)

"NV_BC" <nvanbc@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:5nlqe.1638508$Xk.1217626@pd7tw3no...
> I took my A4 into the Audi dealer today due to excessive exhaust noise.
> They determined it is both catalytic converters which are covered under
> warranty. (Thank God, $1900 each).
>
> Anyway, the dealer says I should change out the oxygen sensors while they
do
> the catalytics. This will cost over $900 and apparently it should be
done,
> eventhough all 4 o2 sensors are not reading faulty. Apparently it is a
4-5
> hour job to change these sensors.
>
> Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Would it be a waste
of
> money to change the sensors now?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>

Re: 1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

Thank you Dan and Steve. Your advice is much appreciated. I had a feeling
they were just trying to pad their loss on my warranty repair work.

I will turn them down and hopefully they don't mess with the car in some way
to make the problem more urgent.

I would hope Capilano Volkswagen Audi in North Vancouver wouldn't do that.


"Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> wrote in message
news:apnqe.16415$_n2.1251577@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> NV,
> No way - don't let them pick your pocket. It may be so that they'd be
> charging you 4 to 5 hours by the book to change the sensors, but they'd
have
> the car opened up to service the cats, so that $900 is essentially for the
4
> sensors themselves. You can go to your local auto parts store, buy a
> generic 2, 3, or 4 wire sensor and splice it into the Audi harness (I got
a
> 3-wire Bosch for my 5ktq from Canadian Tire for around $40). And that's
if
> they're not working (which they probably are). The cats probably broke up
> from vibration - I've heard of that happening alot - not from a mass OXS
> malfunction.
> That's what's called a "Plus Sell", like when a shoe store tries to sell
you
> running shocks with a new set of running shoes. Except the store is
paying
> for your replacement shoes, and so they're trying to soak you with a set
of
> $900 socks.
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ - running happily with a generic, spliced-in OXS, on the
> original cat, passed emissions with flying colours last year, one more
test
> to go........
> 1980 Audi 5k - no OXS, no Cat, no worries
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - No.....(where do I start?)
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>
> "NV_BC" <nvanbc@netscape.com> wrote in message
> news:5nlqe.1638508$Xk.1217626@pd7tw3no...
> > I took my A4 into the Audi dealer today due to excessive exhaust noise.
> > They determined it is both catalytic converters which are covered under
> > warranty. (Thank God, $1900 each).
> >
> > Anyway, the dealer says I should change out the oxygen sensors while
they
> do
> > the catalytics. This will cost over $900 and apparently it should be
> done,
> > eventhough all 4 o2 sensors are not reading faulty. Apparently it is a
> 4-5
> > hour job to change these sensors.
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Would it be a
waste
> of
> > money to change the sensors now?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

Thank you Dan and Steve. Your advice is much appreciated. I had a feeling
they were just trying to pad their loss on my warranty repair work.

I will turn them down and hopefully they don't mess with the car in some way
to make the problem more urgent.

I would hope Capilano Volkswagen Audi in North Vancouver wouldn't do that.


"Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> wrote in message
news:apnqe.16415$_n2.1251577@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> NV,
> No way - don't let them pick your pocket. It may be so that they'd be
> charging you 4 to 5 hours by the book to change the sensors, but they'd
have
> the car opened up to service the cats, so that $900 is essentially for the
4
> sensors themselves. You can go to your local auto parts store, buy a
> generic 2, 3, or 4 wire sensor and splice it into the Audi harness (I got
a
> 3-wire Bosch for my 5ktq from Canadian Tire for around $40). And that's
if
> they're not working (which they probably are). The cats probably broke up
> from vibration - I've heard of that happening alot - not from a mass OXS
> malfunction.
> That's what's called a "Plus Sell", like when a shoe store tries to sell
you
> running shocks with a new set of running shoes. Except the store is
paying
> for your replacement shoes, and so they're trying to soak you with a set
of
> $900 socks.
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ - running happily with a generic, spliced-in OXS, on the
> original cat, passed emissions with flying colours last year, one more
test
> to go........
> 1980 Audi 5k - no OXS, no Cat, no worries
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - No.....(where do I start?)
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>
> "NV_BC" <nvanbc@netscape.com> wrote in message
> news:5nlqe.1638508$Xk.1217626@pd7tw3no...
> > I took my A4 into the Audi dealer today due to excessive exhaust noise.
> > They determined it is both catalytic converters which are covered under
> > warranty. (Thank God, $1900 each).
> >
> > Anyway, the dealer says I should change out the oxygen sensors while
they
> do
> > the catalytics. This will cost over $900 and apparently it should be
> done,
> > eventhough all 4 o2 sensors are not reading faulty. Apparently it is a
> 4-5
> > hour job to change these sensors.
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Would it be a
waste
> of
> > money to change the sensors now?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 1998 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro Oxygen Sensors
 

Thank you Dan and Steve. Your advice is much appreciated. I had a feeling
they were just trying to pad their loss on my warranty repair work.

I will turn them down and hopefully they don't mess with the car in some way
to make the problem more urgent.

I would hope Capilano Volkswagen Audi in North Vancouver wouldn't do that.


"Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> wrote in message
news:apnqe.16415$_n2.1251577@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> NV,
> No way - don't let them pick your pocket. It may be so that they'd be
> charging you 4 to 5 hours by the book to change the sensors, but they'd
have
> the car opened up to service the cats, so that $900 is essentially for the
4
> sensors themselves. You can go to your local auto parts store, buy a
> generic 2, 3, or 4 wire sensor and splice it into the Audi harness (I got
a
> 3-wire Bosch for my 5ktq from Canadian Tire for around $40). And that's
if
> they're not working (which they probably are). The cats probably broke up
> from vibration - I've heard of that happening alot - not from a mass OXS
> malfunction.
> That's what's called a "Plus Sell", like when a shoe store tries to sell
you
> running shocks with a new set of running shoes. Except the store is
paying
> for your replacement shoes, and so they're trying to soak you with a set
of
> $900 socks.
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ - running happily with a generic, spliced-in OXS, on the
> original cat, passed emissions with flying colours last year, one more
test
> to go........
> 1980 Audi 5k - no OXS, no Cat, no worries
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - No.....(where do I start?)
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>
> "NV_BC" <nvanbc@netscape.com> wrote in message
> news:5nlqe.1638508$Xk.1217626@pd7tw3no...
> > I took my A4 into the Audi dealer today due to excessive exhaust noise.
> > They determined it is both catalytic converters which are covered under
> > warranty. (Thank God, $1900 each).
> >
> > Anyway, the dealer says I should change out the oxygen sensors while
they
> do
> > the catalytics. This will cost over $900 and apparently it should be
> done,
> > eventhough all 4 o2 sensors are not reading faulty. Apparently it is a
> 4-5
> > hour job to change these sensors.
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Would it be a
waste
> of
> > money to change the sensors now?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> >
>
>