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"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
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> Tha Ghee wrote:
>
> > "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> > news:10cpm04i4f02p84@news.supernews.com...
> >>
> >>No, they're not. 60 degrees is the optimal angle for balancing, but for
> >>packaging reasons (i.e. not as tall) 90 degrees is much more common, at
> >>least in American cars. The Audi/VW 2.8 V6 is 90 degrees, as are the
> >>newer Audi V6 engines. I believe the Honda 3.0 and 3.5 V6es are also 90
> >>degrees.
> >
> > no you're incorrect, the 2.8 is 15 degree
>
> No, the *VR6* is 15 degrees. The *V6* is not. The 2.8L engine used in
> the VW Passat and previous-gen Audi A4 and A6 is a 90-degree *V6*, not
> the *VR6* used in the GTI. *Different engine*.
>
> > most are V-6s are 60 degree, the
> > only ones are GM Ford, the big 3.
>
> Um, given that they are the largest auto manufacturers in the world (not
> just the US - the *world*), that would mean that *most* V6es are
90-degree.
>
> > the 3.0 and 3.5 are 60 degree
> > www.honda.com
>
> That may be, but GM and Ford make *lots* more engines than Honda
worldwide.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
>
if GM engines are so great way are they buying V-6s from Honda, if you add
up all the 60s vs. 90 I think the 60s will number more. also GM is starting
to make more 60 and I-6s so I think that the 90 is not in vogue.
news:10d15k7k9am0f14@news.supernews.com...
> Tha Ghee wrote:
>
> > "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> > news:10cpm04i4f02p84@news.supernews.com...
> >>
> >>No, they're not. 60 degrees is the optimal angle for balancing, but for
> >>packaging reasons (i.e. not as tall) 90 degrees is much more common, at
> >>least in American cars. The Audi/VW 2.8 V6 is 90 degrees, as are the
> >>newer Audi V6 engines. I believe the Honda 3.0 and 3.5 V6es are also 90
> >>degrees.
> >
> > no you're incorrect, the 2.8 is 15 degree
>
> No, the *VR6* is 15 degrees. The *V6* is not. The 2.8L engine used in
> the VW Passat and previous-gen Audi A4 and A6 is a 90-degree *V6*, not
> the *VR6* used in the GTI. *Different engine*.
>
> > most are V-6s are 60 degree, the
> > only ones are GM Ford, the big 3.
>
> Um, given that they are the largest auto manufacturers in the world (not
> just the US - the *world*), that would mean that *most* V6es are
90-degree.
>
> > the 3.0 and 3.5 are 60 degree
> > www.honda.com
>
> That may be, but GM and Ford make *lots* more engines than Honda
worldwide.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
>
if GM engines are so great way are they buying V-6s from Honda, if you add
up all the 60s vs. 90 I think the 60s will number more. also GM is starting
to make more 60 and I-6s so I think that the 90 is not in vogue.
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"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
news:10d15k7k9am0f14@news.supernews.com...
> Tha Ghee wrote:
>
> > "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> > news:10cpm04i4f02p84@news.supernews.com...
> >>
> >>No, they're not. 60 degrees is the optimal angle for balancing, but for
> >>packaging reasons (i.e. not as tall) 90 degrees is much more common, at
> >>least in American cars. The Audi/VW 2.8 V6 is 90 degrees, as are the
> >>newer Audi V6 engines. I believe the Honda 3.0 and 3.5 V6es are also 90
> >>degrees.
> >
> > no you're incorrect, the 2.8 is 15 degree
>
> No, the *VR6* is 15 degrees. The *V6* is not. The 2.8L engine used in
> the VW Passat and previous-gen Audi A4 and A6 is a 90-degree *V6*, not
> the *VR6* used in the GTI. *Different engine*.
>
> > most are V-6s are 60 degree, the
> > only ones are GM Ford, the big 3.
>
> Um, given that they are the largest auto manufacturers in the world (not
> just the US - the *world*), that would mean that *most* V6es are
90-degree.
>
> > the 3.0 and 3.5 are 60 degree
> > www.honda.com
>
> That may be, but GM and Ford make *lots* more engines than Honda
worldwide.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
>
if GM engines are so great way are they buying V-6s from Honda, if you add
up all the 60s vs. 90 I think the 60s will number more. also GM is starting
to make more 60 and I-6s so I think that the 90 is not in vogue.
news:10d15k7k9am0f14@news.supernews.com...
> Tha Ghee wrote:
>
> > "Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
> > news:10cpm04i4f02p84@news.supernews.com...
> >>
> >>No, they're not. 60 degrees is the optimal angle for balancing, but for
> >>packaging reasons (i.e. not as tall) 90 degrees is much more common, at
> >>least in American cars. The Audi/VW 2.8 V6 is 90 degrees, as are the
> >>newer Audi V6 engines. I believe the Honda 3.0 and 3.5 V6es are also 90
> >>degrees.
> >
> > no you're incorrect, the 2.8 is 15 degree
>
> No, the *VR6* is 15 degrees. The *V6* is not. The 2.8L engine used in
> the VW Passat and previous-gen Audi A4 and A6 is a 90-degree *V6*, not
> the *VR6* used in the GTI. *Different engine*.
>
> > most are V-6s are 60 degree, the
> > only ones are GM Ford, the big 3.
>
> Um, given that they are the largest auto manufacturers in the world (not
> just the US - the *world*), that would mean that *most* V6es are
90-degree.
>
> > the 3.0 and 3.5 are 60 degree
> > www.honda.com
>
> That may be, but GM and Ford make *lots* more engines than Honda
worldwide.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
>
if GM engines are so great way are they buying V-6s from Honda, if you add
up all the 60s vs. 90 I think the 60s will number more. also GM is starting
to make more 60 and I-6s so I think that the 90 is not in vogue.
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >no you're incorrect, the 2.8 is 15
>
> You're a dipshit. VW's 2.8 VR6 is 15 degrees. Audi's 2.8 V6, found in the
B5 A4 and B5/B5.5 Passat are both 90 degress.
he just said 2.8 so then were both correct dumazz, buy you won admission.
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> >no you're incorrect, the 2.8 is 15
>
> You're a dipshit. VW's 2.8 VR6 is 15 degrees. Audi's 2.8 V6, found in the
B5 A4 and B5/B5.5 Passat are both 90 degress.
he just said 2.8 so then were both correct dumazz, buy you won admission.
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >no you're incorrect, the 2.8 is 15
>
> You're a dipshit. VW's 2.8 VR6 is 15 degrees. Audi's 2.8 V6, found in the
B5 A4 and B5/B5.5 Passat are both 90 degress.
he just said 2.8 so then were both correct dumazz, buy you won admission.
news:20040616233800.10961.00000085@mb-m02.aol.com...
> >no you're incorrect, the 2.8 is 15
>
> You're a dipshit. VW's 2.8 VR6 is 15 degrees. Audi's 2.8 V6, found in the
B5 A4 and B5/B5.5 Passat are both 90 degress.
he just said 2.8 so then were both correct dumazz, buy you won admission.
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >of it ever
>
> I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> flagship model. So this is not their first one.
>
> > the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
>
> What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
>
> >now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >
> >Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
>
> FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> fabrications.
oh so now you're back peddling, you look good going backwards.
in this post, do I need to show more?? if you say so, but you still haven't
showed where I lied but in your mind.
news:20040616233643.10961.00000084@mb-m02.aol.com...
> >how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >of it ever
>
> I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> flagship model. So this is not their first one.
>
> > the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
>
> What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
>
> >now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >
> >Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
>
> FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> fabrications.
oh so now you're back peddling, you look good going backwards.
in this post, do I need to show more?? if you say so, but you still haven't
showed where I lied but in your mind.
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616233643.10961.00000084@mb-m02.aol.com...
> >how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >of it ever
>
> I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> flagship model. So this is not their first one.
>
> > the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
>
> What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
>
> >now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >
> >Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
>
> FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> fabrications.
oh so now you're back peddling, you look good going backwards.
in this post, do I need to show more?? if you say so, but you still haven't
showed where I lied but in your mind.
news:20040616233643.10961.00000084@mb-m02.aol.com...
> >how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >of it ever
>
> I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> flagship model. So this is not their first one.
>
> > the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
>
> What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
>
> >now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >
> >Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
>
> FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> fabrications.
oh so now you're back peddling, you look good going backwards.
in this post, do I need to show more?? if you say so, but you still haven't
showed where I lied but in your mind.
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616233643.10961.00000084@mb-m02.aol.com...
> >how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >of it ever
>
> I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> flagship model. So this is not their first one.
>
> > the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
>
> What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
>
> >now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >
> >Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
>
> FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> fabrications.
no just since 98 before then it was the 560 or something else don't try and
change you're reply now, you're a liar just accept your scarlet letter of L.
news:20040616233643.10961.00000084@mb-m02.aol.com...
> >how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >of it ever
>
> I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> flagship model. So this is not their first one.
>
> > the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
>
> What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
>
> >now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >
> >Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
>
> FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> fabrications.
no just since 98 before then it was the 560 or something else don't try and
change you're reply now, you're a liar just accept your scarlet letter of L.
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616233643.10961.00000084@mb-m02.aol.com...
> >how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >of it ever
>
> I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> flagship model. So this is not their first one.
>
> > the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
>
> What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
>
> >now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >
> >Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
>
> FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> fabrications.
no just since 98 before then it was the 560 or something else don't try and
change you're reply now, you're a liar just accept your scarlet letter of L.
news:20040616233643.10961.00000084@mb-m02.aol.com...
> >how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >of it ever
>
> I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> flagship model. So this is not their first one.
>
> > the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
>
> What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
>
> >now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >
> >Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
>
> FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> fabrications.
no just since 98 before then it was the 560 or something else don't try and
change you're reply now, you're a liar just accept your scarlet letter of L.
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"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 17 Jun 2004 03:36:43 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>
> >>how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >>of it ever
> >
> >I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> >flagship model. So this is not their first one.
> >
> >> the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
> >
> >What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
> >
> >>now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >>
> >>Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
> >
> >FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> >fabrications.
>
> you're being far too kind...
how is he too kind, cause your head is up his azz??
news:7n14d01f7jv3vk5qq8n1dfs475f2lau9f7@4ax.com...
> On 17 Jun 2004 03:36:43 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>
> >>how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >>of it ever
> >
> >I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> >flagship model. So this is not their first one.
> >
> >> the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
> >
> >What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
> >
> >>now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >>
> >>Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
> >
> >FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> >fabrications.
>
> you're being far too kind...
how is he too kind, cause your head is up his azz??
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"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7n14d01f7jv3vk5qq8n1dfs475f2lau9f7@4ax.com...
> On 17 Jun 2004 03:36:43 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>
> >>how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >>of it ever
> >
> >I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> >flagship model. So this is not their first one.
> >
> >> the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
> >
> >What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
> >
> >>now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >>
> >>Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
> >
> >FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> >fabrications.
>
> you're being far too kind...
how is he too kind, cause your head is up his azz??
news:7n14d01f7jv3vk5qq8n1dfs475f2lau9f7@4ax.com...
> On 17 Jun 2004 03:36:43 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>
> >>how can you ride in two (2) generations of the 760 this is the first
model
> >>of it ever
> >
> >I meant 750/760. Prior to the new version, the 750 was BMW's 12-cylinder
> >flagship model. So this is not their first one.
> >
> >> the same with the MB so now I know you are full of .
> >
> >What? Again, MB has been building an S600 for several years! You're a
moron.
> >
> >>now sir you are the liar, join Olie North, liar.
> >>
> >>Stevie is a liar, does it hurt to bend the truth.
> >
> >FInd an instance where I lied. For the time being, you're still the king
of
> >fabrications.
>
> you're being far too kind...
how is he too kind, cause your head is up his azz??


