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Old 05-17-2009, 07:17 PM
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Okay, so i;ve set my eyes on this car for some time now,
and this is what the numbers look like for me (im from Calgary Albert)

A4 2.0 Quattro Premium - 45,000
Metallic Paint - 750
Sport Package - 1,800
Bang and Olufsen - 1,100
Wood Trim - 500
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Total 48450

Freight and PDI - 2545
Air and Tire tax - 120
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Total before tax 51115

Total After tax 53675


Is this price pretty much set? or can i get some $$ off this price, currently, i think this is kinda too much...

I have no idea how much the invoice is, ive looked at other forms from the states, and it looks like people there can get them few hundreds/thousands under invoice..
(im in calgary alberta)

any tips welcomed.
thanks guys!

Victor

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Old 05-17-2009, 07:24 PM
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for 40$, you'll know their cost. The other option is to get an APA membership or use one of their pre-approved deals.
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Here ya go. Start out offering 2% above the wholesale price, and consider 3% above a fair deal:

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $45,000.00 $41,346.00
Freight $800.00 $800.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- ICE SILVER METALLIC (P5P5) $750.00 $683.00
- SPORT PKG -inc: 18" 10-spoke alloy wheels w/245/40R18 high performance tires, sport steering wheel w/shift paddles, sport seats, sport suspension (PPS) $1,800.00 $1,638.00
- BANG & OLUFSEN SOUND SYSTEM (9VK) $1,100.00 $1,001.00
- DARK WALNUT WOOD TRIM *Affects Colour Availability* (5MG) $500.00 $455.00
Totals including all items above $50,050.00 $46,023.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-5% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 June 30, 2009
Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Lease Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate $750.00 June 30, 2009
Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Finance Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate $1,500.00 June 30, 2009
Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Alternative Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate $3,000.00 June 30, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 1.9% 24 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 36 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 48 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.9% 60 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.9% 72 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 4.9% 84 June 30, 2009
Lease Program
Lease Rate 3.9% 24 June 30, 2009
Lease Rate 3.9% 36 June 30, 2009
Lease Rate 4.4% 42 June 30, 2009
Lease Rate 4.9% 48 June 30, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
Minimum amount financed $4000
No Security Deposit on all leases.
The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Lease Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate applies to deliveries betweein May 1, 2009 and June 30, 2009. This program is available to customers who lease their vehicle and can be combined with any Audi Finance standard or special lease rate and other cash incentives, excluding The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Finance Cash or The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Alternative Cash. This program is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.
The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Finance Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate applies to deliveries between May 1, 2009 and June 30, 2009. This program is available to customers who finance their vehicle and can be combined with any Audi Finance standard or special retail finance rate. It can also be combined with other cash incentives excluding The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Lease Cash or The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Alternative Cash. This program is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.
The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Alternative Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate applies to deliveries between May 1, 2009 and June 30, 2009. This program can be combined with other cash incenties, excluding the Incredibly Simply Audi Sales Event Lease Cash and The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Finance cash. Also this program can not be combined with any Audi Finance standard nor special rate offer. This program is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.
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The problem that he has is that he is in Calgary and both dealers in Calgary belong to the same group. So basically, his negotiating is limited.
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If i can get 1500+ dollars off at anywhere else in the country, i can fly there and get the car.

My province.AB does not have PST, if i buy at other provinces. do i need to pay PST, even thought the car will be registered at Alberta?

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The problem that he has is that he is in Calgary and both dealers in Calgary belong to the same group. So basically, his negotiating is limited.
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No, you do not have to pay another province's PST, they will only charge you GST.
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In ON, everyone pays taxes… both taxes. No Exceptions! Now, you may apply for a refund after the fact.
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ive never negotiated a car deal before...
where should i start, money wise? below invoice or at invoice or what ever % above invoice...
giving the condition that hes not gona say "get out"

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Hi bud, could you please check for me the cost for Nav package?

thanks

Originally Posted by DrXenon
Here ya go. Start out offering 2% above the wholesale price, and consider 3% above a fair deal:

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $45,000.00 $41,346.00
Freight $800.00 $800.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- ICE SILVER METALLIC (P5P5) $750.00 $683.00
- SPORT PKG -inc: 18" 10-spoke alloy wheels w/245/40R18 high performance tires, sport steering wheel w/shift paddles, sport seats, sport suspension (PPS) $1,800.00 $1,638.00
- BANG & OLUFSEN SOUND SYSTEM (9VK) $1,100.00 $1,001.00
- DARK WALNUT WOOD TRIM *Affects Colour Availability* (5MG) $500.00 $455.00
Totals including all items above $50,050.00 $46,023.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-5% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 June 30, 2009
Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Lease Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate $750.00 June 30, 2009
Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Finance Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate $1,500.00 June 30, 2009
Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Alternative Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate $3,000.00 June 30, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 1.9% 24 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 36 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 48 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.9% 60 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.9% 72 June 30, 2009
Retail Finance 4.9% 84 June 30, 2009
Lease Program
Lease Rate 3.9% 24 June 30, 2009
Lease Rate 3.9% 36 June 30, 2009
Lease Rate 4.4% 42 June 30, 2009
Lease Rate 4.9% 48 June 30, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
Minimum amount financed $4000
No Security Deposit on all leases.
The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Lease Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate applies to deliveries betweein May 1, 2009 and June 30, 2009. This program is available to customers who lease their vehicle and can be combined with any Audi Finance standard or special lease rate and other cash incentives, excluding The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Finance Cash or The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Alternative Cash. This program is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.
The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Finance Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate applies to deliveries between May 1, 2009 and June 30, 2009. This program is available to customers who finance their vehicle and can be combined with any Audi Finance standard or special retail finance rate. It can also be combined with other cash incentives excluding The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Lease Cash or The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Alternative Cash. This program is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.
The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Alternative Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate applies to deliveries between May 1, 2009 and June 30, 2009. This program can be combined with other cash incenties, excluding the Incredibly Simply Audi Sales Event Lease Cash and The Incredibly Simple Audi Sales Event Finance cash. Also this program can not be combined with any Audi Finance standard nor special rate offer. This program is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.
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hey xuchenxixu,

i paid $53K but I got the tech and nav package to boot so I'm guessing there's some room to negotiate.

i've read that 4-8% off the MSRP is a good discount.

good luck.
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