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parenta3 10-29-2013 07:51 PM

Engine swap
 
Need to do an engine swap as my son screwed up his engine. I found an engine for $500.00, but have a few questions.

The guy said;

1. RPM varies when engine is idling (goes higher and lower, didn't tell me everything but engine probably shakes)
2. He said something like it won't shift from 4th into 5th or something, didn't hear him correctly will call again tomorrow

He said he went to two mechanics, and both told him it was a faulty computer and not the engine.

That being said, will a 2003 3.0 engine fit into a 2005 3.0?

parenta3 10-29-2013 07:53 PM

Re: Engine swap
 
Also, he is a dealer

Daonhathai 10-29-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Engine swap
 
the engine will fit without any modifications

As for the rough idle:
-weak spark; plugs, coils
-dirty/faulty maf
-vacuum leak(s)
-something up with your EPC

Transmission probably has a damaged synchro

$500 is pretty cheap, so i guess you get what you pay for. The good case scenario is if it ends being the ecu like he says.

parenta3 10-29-2013 08:50 PM

Re: Engine swap
 

Originally Posted by Daonhathai (Post 188561)
the engine will fit without any modifications

As for the rough idle:
-weak spark; plugs, coils
-dirty/faulty maf
-vacuum leak(s)
-something up with your EPC

Transmission probably has a damaged synchro

$500 is pretty cheap, so i guess you get what you pay for. The good case scenario is if it ends being the ecu like he says.

Since what I'm doing is just swapping my engine, would spark plugs, coils, maf's etc not be affected since it is all staying from my old engine?

And if it's the tranny..would that also be a problem just on his car or would it continue on mine?

Daonhathai 10-29-2013 09:20 PM

Re: Engine swap
 
I'd atleast buy new spark plugs, coolant, oil and filter. Wouldn;t be a bad idea to flush your old transmission and change the filter on that.

If what you've got is a 2003, then i would just mate the engine you're buying to your existing 5-speed transmission. the 6speed that is most likely mated to the engine you're buying is already ed and you'd need to run the harness for it. Save yourself the headache.

-Take new engine, mate to current transmission
-change all the fluids, spark plugs, old/hard/cracking lines and hoses
-swap it in and enjoy
-sell old engine and ed up 6-speed tranny to crap metal
-...
-Profit!

parenta3 10-29-2013 09:50 PM

Re: Engine swap
 

Originally Posted by Daonhathai (Post 188563)
I'd atleast buy new spark plugs, coolant, oil and filter. Wouldn;t be a bad idea to flush your old transmission and change the filter on that.

If what you've got is a 2003, then i would just mate the engine you're buying to your existing 5-speed transmission. the 6speed that is most likely mated to the engine you're buying is already ed and you'd need to run the harness for it. Save yourself the headache.

-Take new engine, mate to current transmission
-change all the fluids, spark plugs, old/hard/cracking lines and hoses
-swap it in and enjoy
-sell old engine and ed up 6-speed tranny to crap metal
-...
-Profit!


I have the 2005, and I'm putting a 2003 engine in it...

Daonhathai 10-29-2013 10:00 PM

Re: Engine swap
 
That's fine too. Just keep your 6-speed then and scrap the 5 speed.

parenta3 10-29-2013 10:02 PM

Re: Engine swap
 

Originally Posted by Daonhathai (Post 188565)
That's fine too. Just keep your 6-speed then and scrap the 5 speed.

Care to clarify? I thought the 2003 and 2005 are virtually the same? Don't they both have 6 speed tranny's and not 5 speed??:confused::confused:

Daonhathai 10-29-2013 10:13 PM

Re: Engine swap
 
Oh right, you have the 3.0L. I'm used to talking about the 1.8T. In your case, it should be common sense, use the new engine you're buying with your old transmission.

To clarify the confusion:

2002-2003 non sport 1.8T came with 5-speed, the ultrasports came with 6 speed
2004-2005 all 1.8T came with 6-speed if manual
2002-2005 all 3.0L came with 6-speed if manual

parenta3 10-29-2013 10:15 PM

Re: Engine swap
 

Originally Posted by Daonhathai (Post 188568)
Oh right, you have the 3.0L. I'm used to talking about the 1.8T. In your case, it should be common sense, use the new engine you're buying with your old transmission.

To clarify the confusion:

2002-2003 non sport 1.8T came with 5-speed, the ultrasports came with 6 speed
2004-2005 all 1.8T came with 6-speed if manual
2002-2005 all 3.0L came with 6-speed if manual

Just swap engines right? No necessary spark plug changes, coil box etc

Daonhathai 10-29-2013 10:20 PM

Re: Engine swap
 
I'd change the spark plugs and fluids with brand new, not sure why you would cheap out on those since they're maintenance items anyways.

parenta3 10-29-2013 10:21 PM

Re: Engine swap
 

Originally Posted by Daonhathai (Post 188570)
I'd change the spark plugs and fluids with brand new, not sure why you would cheap out on those since they're maintenance items anyways.

Well I was going to let my mechanic do it, and it didn't seem like he was going to do that stuff. But I decided to do it myself

waspjr 10-29-2013 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by parenta3 (Post 188572)
Well I was going to let my mechanic do it, and it didn't seem like he was going to do that stuff. But I decided to do it myself

I am not up to speed on this engine but do what ypu can while you have the chance and its easy. Plugs thermostat have a look at your coolant hoses and evap lines. Even the vavle cover gaskets this stuff is cheap to do it now compared to putting it in and paying a mech hours labour to when it fails 500k after install. Look at things like the water pump and possibly the pilot bearing on the transmision. I mean if your driving it into the ground just giver but if you want 50 or 100 more k then listen to the guys on here.
Anyways sorry about your luck with the motor but all the best and i hope i helped you out.

veedubb 10-30-2013 08:30 PM

Re: Engine swap
 
I concur with other posters. Since the engine / trans is removed, it's the best time to replace items that are hard to get to. Things like maybe the timing belt/water pump, hoses at the rear of the engine, hoses, and plastic coolant fittings on the engine block. These fittings are notorious for getting brittle with age.


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