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sonic 04-14-2008 07:59 AM

Buying new rims...weight?
 
Ok, i have a 2004 A4 quattro 1.8T

There is a set of 19s i want to get but they are 31lbs each....somewhat heavy....but i have nothing to base this on. Does anyone know the stock wheel weights? of either the 16s or 17s??

I dont want to do any damage to the quattro system with the extra weight causeing strain. Or does anyone know the max weight suggested?

Stevelev 04-14-2008 09:04 AM

Re: Buying new rims...weight?
 
Whoa !! 31 lbs is heavier than stock fo sho. My 18's were approx 28 lbs. Here's a link for you to determine wheel weights: WHEELWEIGHTS.NET

From recent experience, I'd strongly suggest trying to get lighter wheels ... my 19's are 10 lbs lighter than my stockers (incl. tires) and the difference in drive (acceleration, handling and ride) is quite noticeable.

MAlby7 04-14-2008 04:01 PM

Re: Buying new rims...weight?
 
My 19's are 19 or 18lbs but they really lightweight.

Stevelev 04-14-2008 04:09 PM

Re: Buying new rims...weight?
 

Originally Posted by MAlby7 (Post 65427)
My 19's are 19 or 18lbs but they really lightweight.


And they're hot !!

akula-ssh 04-15-2008 07:09 AM

Re: Buying new rims...weight?
 
The extra mass doesn't hurt the drive train per se. It'd only impact performance. Keep in mind also that it's not just mass that's hampering performance, but also mass that's farther from the centre of the rotating part: rotational inertia, the physical quantity analogous to mass in describing rotations as opposed to linear motion, scales as radius squared while it scales linearly with mass, so the amount of torque required to accelerate a heavier wheel that's larger in diameter is much larger than an equally heavy wheel that's smaller.

Stevelev 04-15-2008 07:57 AM

Re: Buying new rims...weight?
 
I've read that an increase of 1 lb of wheel/tire weight equates to 8 lbs of rotational mass. Dunno if this is true ...

nlk125 04-15-2008 09:45 AM

Re: Buying new rims...weight?
 

Originally Posted by akula-ssh (Post 65519)
The extra mass doesn't hurt the drive train per se. It'd only impact performance. Keep in mind also that it's not just mass that's hampering performance, but also mass that's farther from the centre of the rotating part: rotational inertia, the physical quantity analogous to mass in describing rotations as opposed to linear motion, scales as radius squared while it scales linearly with mass, so the amount of torque required to accelerate a heavier wheel that's larger in diameter is much larger than an equally heavy wheel that's smaller.

Well said... An Engineer I'm assuming?

sonic 04-15-2008 10:00 AM

Re: Buying new rims...weight?
 

Originally Posted by akula-ssh (Post 65519)
The extra mass doesn't hurt the drive train per se. It'd only impact performance. Keep in mind also that it's not just mass that's hampering performance, but also mass that's farther from the centre of the rotating part: rotational inertia, the physical quantity analogous to mass in describing rotations as opposed to linear motion, scales as radius squared while it scales linearly with mass, so the amount of torque required to accelerate a heavier wheel that's larger in diameter is much larger than an equally heavy wheel that's smaller.

Geeze, if your going to call me all sorts of names at least say Sir.

haha. Thanks for the explination.

rusty_67 04-15-2008 12:17 PM

Re: Buying new rims...weight?
 
To answer your first question:

Audi A4 5-spoke Cast 16x7 20.0
Audi A4 7-spoke Cast 16x7 20.6
Audi A8 Forged 17x8 21.0
Audi A8 9-spoke Cast 20x8.5 28.6
Audi S4 Avus Cast 17x7.5 28.0
Audi S8 Avus Cast 18x8 27.2
Audi TT Cast 16x7 18.5
Audi TT Forged 17x7.5 21.5
Audi TT Cast 17x7.5 29.0

The last number there is the weight in pounds. Can't gaurantee its all true, I just found it on some website, but it seems fair.

I'm currently looking into buying some 18's for mine, going to try to look for something around the 20-22 pound range, less would be nice but I think I might be paying more then I want to then.

Stevelev 04-15-2008 01:42 PM

Re: Buying new rims...weight?
 
[QUOTE=rusty_67;65550] ... Can't gaurantee its all true, I just found it on some website, but it seems fair.
QUOTE]

You mean the website I provided in my first post ? ;-)

Any of the wheels I had weighed were the same as what that website stated.

Good luck with finding wheels - patience is a virtue and sometimes paying a few bucks more than planned allows you to get what you want (ie: lighter wheels).


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