Synthetic oil
08-01-2004, 09:45 AM
#11
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Re: Synthetic oil
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 14:12:18 GMT, ZiggyPopp <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
>> "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions about
>> synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the subject
>> matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>
>And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
>helpful??
groups.google.com
or
bobistheoilguy.com
That should get you started.
wrote:
>
>> Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
>> "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions about
>> synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the subject
>> matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>
>And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
>helpful??
groups.google.com
or
bobistheoilguy.com
That should get you started.
08-01-2004, 10:33 AM
#12
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Re: Synthetic oil
Brian,
As I said, I have been checking out the groups for quite some time, and
especially reading all the posts about synthetic oils. I haven't checked
out Google to see if there are posts in groups that could answer this
question. From what I've read, and while talking to people, the general
response is "use X, that's what I've always used and its never let me down."
"X" can be Mobile 1, Valvoline, Quaker State, whatever they use. This is
usefull, as if the oil turned to water or sludge after 200 miles, they
wouldn't still be using it, but what I'm looking for is an actual
comparison, done by Labs Not Affiliated With Anyone, that actually ran tests
using the major oils and can say "oil X held it's viscosity better, oil Y
kept its additives better, oil Z blew up the engine, etc".
I'm not sure if Nige's response was a slam towards me because of the Amsoil
comment, or a comment about brand loyalty, but it really is somewhat
appropriate when it comes to the recomendations. I used to work at
Valvoline, and heard comments about how someone only ever used Penzoil so
they left with getting nothing done (don't ask me why they came in to begin
with, it baffled me), or people who thought synthetics were just a scam so
the oil change places could make more money at worst, just a waste of money
at best (read jdoe's comment to the other synthetic oil post). So, although
opinions can be very usefull, they can also be very biased and not very
scientifically based.
Enjoy
Bill
"Curtis Newton" <cnewton.remove@akamail.com> wrote in message
news:ia0qg0tp7hp0mfqhjut3lo7oucqv6r3cp0@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 14:12:18 GMT, ZiggyPopp <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> >> "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> >> synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> >> matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >>
> >
> >And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> >helpful??
>
>
> groups.google.com
>
> or
>
> bobistheoilguy.com
>
> That should get you started.
>
>
As I said, I have been checking out the groups for quite some time, and
especially reading all the posts about synthetic oils. I haven't checked
out Google to see if there are posts in groups that could answer this
question. From what I've read, and while talking to people, the general
response is "use X, that's what I've always used and its never let me down."
"X" can be Mobile 1, Valvoline, Quaker State, whatever they use. This is
usefull, as if the oil turned to water or sludge after 200 miles, they
wouldn't still be using it, but what I'm looking for is an actual
comparison, done by Labs Not Affiliated With Anyone, that actually ran tests
using the major oils and can say "oil X held it's viscosity better, oil Y
kept its additives better, oil Z blew up the engine, etc".
I'm not sure if Nige's response was a slam towards me because of the Amsoil
comment, or a comment about brand loyalty, but it really is somewhat
appropriate when it comes to the recomendations. I used to work at
Valvoline, and heard comments about how someone only ever used Penzoil so
they left with getting nothing done (don't ask me why they came in to begin
with, it baffled me), or people who thought synthetics were just a scam so
the oil change places could make more money at worst, just a waste of money
at best (read jdoe's comment to the other synthetic oil post). So, although
opinions can be very usefull, they can also be very biased and not very
scientifically based.
Enjoy
Bill
"Curtis Newton" <cnewton.remove@akamail.com> wrote in message
news:ia0qg0tp7hp0mfqhjut3lo7oucqv6r3cp0@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 14:12:18 GMT, ZiggyPopp <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> >> "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> >> synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> >> matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >>
> >
> >And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> >helpful??
>
>
> groups.google.com
>
> or
>
> bobistheoilguy.com
>
> That should get you started.
>
>
08-01-2004, 10:33 AM
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: Synthetic oil
Brian,
As I said, I have been checking out the groups for quite some time, and
especially reading all the posts about synthetic oils. I haven't checked
out Google to see if there are posts in groups that could answer this
question. From what I've read, and while talking to people, the general
response is "use X, that's what I've always used and its never let me down."
"X" can be Mobile 1, Valvoline, Quaker State, whatever they use. This is
usefull, as if the oil turned to water or sludge after 200 miles, they
wouldn't still be using it, but what I'm looking for is an actual
comparison, done by Labs Not Affiliated With Anyone, that actually ran tests
using the major oils and can say "oil X held it's viscosity better, oil Y
kept its additives better, oil Z blew up the engine, etc".
I'm not sure if Nige's response was a slam towards me because of the Amsoil
comment, or a comment about brand loyalty, but it really is somewhat
appropriate when it comes to the recomendations. I used to work at
Valvoline, and heard comments about how someone only ever used Penzoil so
they left with getting nothing done (don't ask me why they came in to begin
with, it baffled me), or people who thought synthetics were just a scam so
the oil change places could make more money at worst, just a waste of money
at best (read jdoe's comment to the other synthetic oil post). So, although
opinions can be very usefull, they can also be very biased and not very
scientifically based.
Enjoy
Bill
"Curtis Newton" <cnewton.remove@akamail.com> wrote in message
news:ia0qg0tp7hp0mfqhjut3lo7oucqv6r3cp0@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 14:12:18 GMT, ZiggyPopp <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> >> "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> >> synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> >> matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >>
> >
> >And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> >helpful??
>
>
> groups.google.com
>
> or
>
> bobistheoilguy.com
>
> That should get you started.
>
>
As I said, I have been checking out the groups for quite some time, and
especially reading all the posts about synthetic oils. I haven't checked
out Google to see if there are posts in groups that could answer this
question. From what I've read, and while talking to people, the general
response is "use X, that's what I've always used and its never let me down."
"X" can be Mobile 1, Valvoline, Quaker State, whatever they use. This is
usefull, as if the oil turned to water or sludge after 200 miles, they
wouldn't still be using it, but what I'm looking for is an actual
comparison, done by Labs Not Affiliated With Anyone, that actually ran tests
using the major oils and can say "oil X held it's viscosity better, oil Y
kept its additives better, oil Z blew up the engine, etc".
I'm not sure if Nige's response was a slam towards me because of the Amsoil
comment, or a comment about brand loyalty, but it really is somewhat
appropriate when it comes to the recomendations. I used to work at
Valvoline, and heard comments about how someone only ever used Penzoil so
they left with getting nothing done (don't ask me why they came in to begin
with, it baffled me), or people who thought synthetics were just a scam so
the oil change places could make more money at worst, just a waste of money
at best (read jdoe's comment to the other synthetic oil post). So, although
opinions can be very usefull, they can also be very biased and not very
scientifically based.
Enjoy
Bill
"Curtis Newton" <cnewton.remove@akamail.com> wrote in message
news:ia0qg0tp7hp0mfqhjut3lo7oucqv6r3cp0@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 14:12:18 GMT, ZiggyPopp <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> >> "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> >> synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> >> matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >>
> >
> >And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> >helpful??
>
>
> groups.google.com
>
> or
>
> bobistheoilguy.com
>
> That should get you started.
>
>
08-01-2004, 12:26 PM
#14
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Re: Synthetic oil
"ZiggyPopp" <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> > "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> > synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> > matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
>
> And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> helpful??
>
I'm sorry, I thought that this was "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" not
"alt.beginners-PC".
And where is all your wisdom?
Brian
08-01-2004, 12:26 PM
#15
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Re: Synthetic oil
"ZiggyPopp" <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6T6Pc.192220$a24.84421@attbi_s03...
>
> > Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> > "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> > synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> > matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
>
> And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> helpful??
>
I'm sorry, I thought that this was "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" not
"alt.beginners-PC".
And where is all your wisdom?
Brian
08-01-2004, 07:37 PM
#16
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Re: Synthetic oil
No one ever posted an "Independent"
Research article, except the so called independent research article by the
Amsoil to paraphrase Doc: "Spammer" did!
Refinish King
PS
Why would someone do an independent test, an oil company usually pays for it
to make their oil look best!
"ZiggyPopp" <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6T6Pc.192220$a24.84421@attbi_s03...
>
> > Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> > "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> > synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> > matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
>
> And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> helpful??
>
Research article, except the so called independent research article by the
Amsoil to paraphrase Doc: "Spammer" did!
Refinish King
PS
Why would someone do an independent test, an oil company usually pays for it
to make their oil look best!
"ZiggyPopp" <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6T6Pc.192220$a24.84421@attbi_s03...
>
> > Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> > "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> > synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> > matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
>
> And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> helpful??
>
08-01-2004, 07:37 PM
#17
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Re: Synthetic oil
No one ever posted an "Independent"
Research article, except the so called independent research article by the
Amsoil to paraphrase Doc: "Spammer" did!
Refinish King
PS
Why would someone do an independent test, an oil company usually pays for it
to make their oil look best!
"ZiggyPopp" <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6T6Pc.192220$a24.84421@attbi_s03...
>
> > Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> > "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> > synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> > matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
>
> And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> helpful??
>
Research article, except the so called independent research article by the
Amsoil to paraphrase Doc: "Spammer" did!
Refinish King
PS
Why would someone do an independent test, an oil company usually pays for it
to make their oil look best!
"ZiggyPopp" <ZiggyPop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6T6Pc.192220$a24.84421@attbi_s03...
>
> > Bill, not to be a smart *** but if you are regularly reading
> > "alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks" there are about sixty posts and opinions
about
> > synthetic oils in the past 3 months. You might try a search for the
subject
> > matter, you're questions may have been answered already.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
>
> And maybe a little info on how to search prior posts would have been
> helpful??
>
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