Re: Silly Car Fantasies
09-30-2003, 03:00 PM
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Re: Silly Car Fantasies
Brent P wrote:
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> In article <6n%db.9137$NX3.5503@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink. net>, Dave C. wrote:
>
> > All these V6 and V8 engines are OK, but I'm still waiting for someone to put
> > out a nice sports car with an INLINE V6. Now that would be ultra cool.
> > Screw the "V" format, give me something that will rev SMOOTHLY beyond 6K.
> > VRRRRRrrrrrrrOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!! Heck, even Chevy put out an SUV
> > recently with an Inline 6. I was drooling. Didn't like the platform,
> > though. And of course, no real tranny available
-Dave
>
> Jaguar XKE.
>
> Ford Falcon (Austrailia)
>
> Other various Jaguars, BMWs, etc.
Out in the driveway is a Toyota Cressida w/ .... an Inline Six.
Runs real good, and a faulty radiator overheating the motor didn't cause
the head to warp, slipping the gasket and Oh I cant go on!
TBerk
>
> In article <6n%db.9137$NX3.5503@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink. net>, Dave C. wrote:
>
> > All these V6 and V8 engines are OK, but I'm still waiting for someone to put
> > out a nice sports car with an INLINE V6. Now that would be ultra cool.
> > Screw the "V" format, give me something that will rev SMOOTHLY beyond 6K.
> > VRRRRRrrrrrrrOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!! Heck, even Chevy put out an SUV
> > recently with an Inline 6. I was drooling. Didn't like the platform,
> > though. And of course, no real tranny available
-Dave>
> Jaguar XKE.
>
> Ford Falcon (Austrailia)
>
> Other various Jaguars, BMWs, etc.
Out in the driveway is a Toyota Cressida w/ .... an Inline Six.
Runs real good, and a faulty radiator overheating the motor didn't cause
the head to warp, slipping the gasket and Oh I cant go on!
TBerk
09-30-2003, 03:07 PM
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Re: Silly Car Fantasies
Spider wrote:
> Mike Smith <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message news:<vnhddjlqnr0e03@news.supernews.com>...
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>>Dave C. wrote:
>>
>>>All these V6 and V8 engines are OK, but I'm still waiting for someone to put
>>>out a nice sports car with an INLINE V6.
>>
>>BMWs don't count?
>
>
> How, pray tell, can a car have an *inline* *V*6?
Oh, you're so clever. Everyone else knew what he was talking about.
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> Mike Smith <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message news:<vnhddjlqnr0e03@news.supernews.com>...
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>>Dave C. wrote:
>>
>>>All these V6 and V8 engines are OK, but I'm still waiting for someone to put
>>>out a nice sports car with an INLINE V6.
>>
>>BMWs don't count?
>
>
> How, pray tell, can a car have an *inline* *V*6?
Oh, you're so clever. Everyone else knew what he was talking about.
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09-30-2003, 03:52 PM
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Re: Silly Car Fantasies
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:07:10 -0400, Mike Smith
<mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
>> How, pray tell, can a car have an *inline* *V*6?
>
>Oh, you're so clever. Everyone else knew what he was talking about.
And I even went to the trouble to auto correct the quote (q.v.), not
failing to enclose the corrected part in the requisite brackets. (It
is never proper to alter a quote without explicitly clarifying the
alteration.)
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<mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
>> How, pray tell, can a car have an *inline* *V*6?
>
>Oh, you're so clever. Everyone else knew what he was talking about.
And I even went to the trouble to auto correct the quote (q.v.), not
failing to enclose the corrected part in the requisite brackets. (It
is never proper to alter a quote without explicitly clarifying the
alteration.)
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09-30-2003, 04:47 PM
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Re: Silly Car Fantasies
"Dave C." wrote:
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> >
> > Do you know about Bimmers Dave? They have everything you want! Great
> > cars too. Given that you seem to be a fairly "aggressive" driver
> > (kudos to you), the M3 might be right up your street. Fast,
> > responsive, awesome handling, inline six, real tranny (6sp). But
> > then, at 74 grand with cloth seats (!), it had better be darn good.
> >
>
> Yeah, if I thought they weren't terribly overpriced, I'd consider one. I
> have nothing against bimmers at all, just don't see the value in them
> (compared to the competition), even if they do have the inline 6, real
> tranny, etc. I mean, it would be child's play to put out a nice 2005 or
> later smallish sedan (not coupe, not hatchback, not mini-SUV, not two-door
> with false back seat) with powerful inline 6, manual tranny, possibly even
> REAR wheel drive with limited slip differential AND keep the price down to
> say ~$35 K or less. Easy! Why it hasn't been done is a real mystery, as
> that puppy would probably outsell the top ten (camry?, taurus, etc.)
> combined, in the U.S. at least. -Dave
Almost sounds like the Mazda RX-8. Well, almost.
TBerk
>
> >
> > Do you know about Bimmers Dave? They have everything you want! Great
> > cars too. Given that you seem to be a fairly "aggressive" driver
> > (kudos to you), the M3 might be right up your street. Fast,
> > responsive, awesome handling, inline six, real tranny (6sp). But
> > then, at 74 grand with cloth seats (!), it had better be darn good.
> >
>
> Yeah, if I thought they weren't terribly overpriced, I'd consider one. I
> have nothing against bimmers at all, just don't see the value in them
> (compared to the competition), even if they do have the inline 6, real
> tranny, etc. I mean, it would be child's play to put out a nice 2005 or
> later smallish sedan (not coupe, not hatchback, not mini-SUV, not two-door
> with false back seat) with powerful inline 6, manual tranny, possibly even
> REAR wheel drive with limited slip differential AND keep the price down to
> say ~$35 K or less. Easy! Why it hasn't been done is a real mystery, as
> that puppy would probably outsell the top ten (camry?, taurus, etc.)
> combined, in the U.S. at least. -Dave
Almost sounds like the Mazda RX-8. Well, almost.
TBerk
09-30-2003, 06:46 PM
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:47:41 GMT, T Berk <"TBerk "@ sbcglobal . net>
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>Almost sounds like the Mazda RX-8. Well, almost.
Talking of which, I eyed a couple of specimen of the REAL thing at
my local Mazda dealer recently. I actually sat in it and got the
feel of the interior (very nice), though sadly the battery was dead
so no adjusting the driver seat to see how much room there was.
Apparently there are only 700 RX8s lined up for sale in Canada, and
the dealer was friendly and very happy to let me check out this new
baby that he knew full well I couldn't afford in a month of Lotto
winning Saturdays. He was equally eager to show me the new Mazda 6
and how it's selling like hot cakes and the fact (?) that it handles
better than the RX8 on the 'pad and all that kinda stuff. Ahh,
nothing beats the joy of checking out cars you can't afford (other
than checking out the same cars if you CAN afford them, of course!).
And no, that is not the reason I was at the dealer. I was looking
for a tin of body paint, but that won't be in till next Monday.
Maybe they'll have some new cars in by then, héhé. (OK, so some of
us never grow up; when I was a lot younger I enjoyed getting the
feel of the hundred plus kay luxos at my local Merc dealer, say,
when my mom was interested in buying a new Merc, something she
didn't do in the end, sigh.)
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wrote:
>Almost sounds like the Mazda RX-8. Well, almost.
Talking of which, I eyed a couple of specimen of the REAL thing at
my local Mazda dealer recently. I actually sat in it and got the
feel of the interior (very nice), though sadly the battery was dead
so no adjusting the driver seat to see how much room there was.
Apparently there are only 700 RX8s lined up for sale in Canada, and
the dealer was friendly and very happy to let me check out this new
baby that he knew full well I couldn't afford in a month of Lotto
winning Saturdays. He was equally eager to show me the new Mazda 6
and how it's selling like hot cakes and the fact (?) that it handles
better than the RX8 on the 'pad and all that kinda stuff. Ahh,
nothing beats the joy of checking out cars you can't afford (other
than checking out the same cars if you CAN afford them, of course!).
And no, that is not the reason I was at the dealer. I was looking
for a tin of body paint, but that won't be in till next Monday.
Maybe they'll have some new cars in by then, héhé. (OK, so some of
us never grow up; when I was a lot younger I enjoyed getting the
feel of the hundred plus kay luxos at my local Merc dealer, say,
when my mom was interested in buying a new Merc, something she
didn't do in the end, sigh.)
--
ricardo, ex-euroslav vancouver bc canada
for liability purposes: I *always* obey the law.
'89 grand am le, garaged; '91 mx6 gt
09-30-2003, 07:12 PM
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Re: Silly Car Fantasies
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:26:54 GMT,
sovietjamaicanguy@spamfreezone.yahoo.ca (Ricardo) wrote:
> I think they
>deliberately chose not to offer the 400 series cars with a MT 'cos
>they felt it unnecessary (which is true to a large degree based on
>the performance profile of that car and the target market), perhaps
>not realizing that some people want to drive a three pedal car just
>for the sake of operating a clutch and shifter, even though it makes
>precious little practical and noticeable difference to the car's
>performance (added weight aside) when you have a bajillion lb-ft of
>torque on tap at peak torque revs, with most of that bajillion being
>available just off fast idle. Good thing those cars have traction
>control. :}
They're not that powerful. Sad thing is they already had a robust
6-speed MT (from the Supra) that bolts right on. Oh well, I'm sure
they did their market research...
sovietjamaicanguy@spamfreezone.yahoo.ca (Ricardo) wrote:
> I think they
>deliberately chose not to offer the 400 series cars with a MT 'cos
>they felt it unnecessary (which is true to a large degree based on
>the performance profile of that car and the target market), perhaps
>not realizing that some people want to drive a three pedal car just
>for the sake of operating a clutch and shifter, even though it makes
>precious little practical and noticeable difference to the car's
>performance (added weight aside) when you have a bajillion lb-ft of
>torque on tap at peak torque revs, with most of that bajillion being
>available just off fast idle. Good thing those cars have traction
>control. :}
They're not that powerful. Sad thing is they already had a robust
6-speed MT (from the Supra) that bolts right on. Oh well, I'm sure
they did their market research...
09-30-2003, 07:24 PM
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 00:12:39 GMT, dizzy <dizzy@nospan.com> wrote:
>They're not that powerful.
SC4x0s? Actually, in relative terms you're right in so far as a 6cyl
3.2L BMW M3 being able to smoke 'em in raw hp terms. But the SC400
can still haul to 100kph in something shy of seven seconds, and aiui
it's endowed with quite a bit more in the mass department than are
the M cars.
>Sad thing is they already had a robust
>6-speed MT (from the Supra) that bolts right on.
It is sad (ish), but I think one ought to blame the EPA for this
more than Toyota/Lexus. It is stupid EPA rules that require separate
certification for different motor/tranny combos, after all.
>Oh well, I'm sure they did their market research...
And it seemed to pay off. They never even bothered trying to sell
the three litre snail to Canajuns...
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'89 grand am le, garaged; '91 mx6 gt
>They're not that powerful.
SC4x0s? Actually, in relative terms you're right in so far as a 6cyl
3.2L BMW M3 being able to smoke 'em in raw hp terms. But the SC400
can still haul to 100kph in something shy of seven seconds, and aiui
it's endowed with quite a bit more in the mass department than are
the M cars.
>Sad thing is they already had a robust
>6-speed MT (from the Supra) that bolts right on.
It is sad (ish), but I think one ought to blame the EPA for this
more than Toyota/Lexus. It is stupid EPA rules that require separate
certification for different motor/tranny combos, after all.
>Oh well, I'm sure they did their market research...
And it seemed to pay off. They never even bothered trying to sell
the three litre snail to Canajuns...
--
ricardo, ex-euroslav vancouver bc canada
for liability purposes: I *always* obey the law.
'89 grand am le, garaged; '91 mx6 gt
09-30-2003, 10:37 PM
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Re: Silly Car Fantasies
"Matt B." <noway@hellno.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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> > out a nice sports car with an INLINE V6.
>
> No such animal could ever exist.
>
>
Assuming you were talking about his Typo, then yes. Assuming that you say
no such sports car (an I6 sports car, not a sedam,[nixs the bimmers]) they
you are very wrong
Sitting outside my house (and finally running again) is a 1980 Dautsun
280zx. All the Z cars up to a certain year (dunno which year yet, still
looking) had inline 6 engines. 2 seats (or 2+2, which i thought looked
ugly) T-tops were a (popular) option, and i like the way it runs
10-01-2003, 12:08 AM
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BunnERabbit@webtv.net (Keith) wrote:
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>
>paul@crapco.com (Paul Luvlyturd), Wrote:
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>"Keith" <BunnERabbit@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>><I listened for about 10 min. in my car at 3:15 am
>>>in the morning.
>
><In the Rabbit Mobile. How's it running?
>
>My GTi is running fine. Although I'm thinking of trading in and getting
>one of these:
>
>http://vwvortex.rely.net/artman/publ...icle_115.shtml
>
WOW!.. Maybe I'll reconsider that used S4 Avant (The 2004 S4 is just
too expensive) This is the only full-time AWD alternative to the S4
I've seen in a long time..
(Anything with a clutch in place of a center diff has part-time AWD)
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>paul@crapco.com (Paul Luvlyturd), Wrote:
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>"Keith" <BunnERabbit@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>><I listened for about 10 min. in my car at 3:15 am
>>>in the morning.
>
><In the Rabbit Mobile. How's it running?
>
>My GTi is running fine. Although I'm thinking of trading in and getting
>one of these:
>
>http://vwvortex.rely.net/artman/publ...icle_115.shtml
>
WOW!.. Maybe I'll reconsider that used S4 Avant (The 2004 S4 is just
too expensive) This is the only full-time AWD alternative to the S4
I've seen in a long time..
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10-01-2003, 04:41 AM
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Re: Silly Car Fantasies
Nicodemus Telrenner wrote:
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>>"Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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>>>out a nice sports car with an INLINE V6.
>>
>>No such animal could ever exist.
>>
>>
>
>
> Assuming you were talking about his Typo, then yes. Assuming that you say
> no such sports car (an I6 sports car, not a sedam,[nixs the bimmers]) they
> you are very wrong
>
> Sitting outside my house (and finally running again) is a 1980 Dautsun
> 280zx. All the Z cars up to a certain year (dunno which year yet, still
> looking) had inline 6 engines. 2 seats (or 2+2, which i thought looked
> ugly) T-tops were a (popular) option, and i like the way it runs
>
>
I believe the 300ZX introduced the V6.
how about a BMW Z4?
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>>"Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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>>>out a nice sports car with an INLINE V6.
>>
>>No such animal could ever exist.
>>
>>
>
>
> Assuming you were talking about his Typo, then yes. Assuming that you say
> no such sports car (an I6 sports car, not a sedam,[nixs the bimmers]) they
> you are very wrong
>
> Sitting outside my house (and finally running again) is a 1980 Dautsun
> 280zx. All the Z cars up to a certain year (dunno which year yet, still
> looking) had inline 6 engines. 2 seats (or 2+2, which i thought looked
> ugly) T-tops were a (popular) option, and i like the way it runs
>
>
I believe the 300ZX introduced the V6.
how about a BMW Z4?
nate
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