Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
05-08-2004, 11:21 AM
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Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >are you stupid, the tranny and engines are the same in the 911 and RS6.
>
> The 911 is running a 3.6 litre flat-six developed by Porsche. The RS6 is
> running a 4.2 litre, twin-turbocharged V8 developed by the sport division
at
> Audi. Who's stupid?
if you look at the turbos, tranny, AWD system they're all the same. you'll
still the dumbass by far.
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> >are you stupid, the tranny and engines are the same in the 911 and RS6.
>
> The 911 is running a 3.6 litre flat-six developed by Porsche. The RS6 is
> running a 4.2 litre, twin-turbocharged V8 developed by the sport division
at
> Audi. Who's stupid?
if you look at the turbos, tranny, AWD system they're all the same. you'll
still the dumbass by far.
05-08-2004, 11:54 AM
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Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >300 GT is not AWD
>
> The 3000GT VR-4 was AWD, as was the R/T Turbo variant of it's Dodge
> counterpart, the Stealth. Both also had All-Wheel-Steering. Should'nt your
vast
> knowledge of cars and magazines have helped you here?
>
> >the GSX was def. rally derived
>
> No it wasn't. Mitsubishi rallies with the Lancer, they never used the
Eclipse
> as a rallye car.
dumbass all wheel steering is not the same as AWD, if you look the 3000GT
was FWD and had a LSD in the back. it's also had pseudo 4 wheel steering
the rear tires moved between 4-5 degrees into the turn to help corning, but
it DID NOT have AWD just FWD with LSD on the real wheels. yeah I have a
vast knowledge of cars.
I could have swore that the GSX was used in a rally before the Lancer Evo
came out. like the earlier 90s.
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> >300 GT is not AWD
>
> The 3000GT VR-4 was AWD, as was the R/T Turbo variant of it's Dodge
> counterpart, the Stealth. Both also had All-Wheel-Steering. Should'nt your
vast
> knowledge of cars and magazines have helped you here?
>
> >the GSX was def. rally derived
>
> No it wasn't. Mitsubishi rallies with the Lancer, they never used the
Eclipse
> as a rallye car.
dumbass all wheel steering is not the same as AWD, if you look the 3000GT
was FWD and had a LSD in the back. it's also had pseudo 4 wheel steering
the rear tires moved between 4-5 degrees into the turn to help corning, but
it DID NOT have AWD just FWD with LSD on the real wheels. yeah I have a
vast knowledge of cars.
I could have swore that the GSX was used in a rally before the Lancer Evo
came out. like the earlier 90s.
05-08-2004, 12:02 PM
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Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Audi/Porc.
> >are you gay is that why you want to nail a guy, I'm scared now.
>
> What in god's name are you spewing?
>
> > only in C &D not in over mags but I forgot since you can't prove them
wrong their now margina
>
> You're a throughly inadequte opponent. I refuse to have a battle of the
wits
> with an unarmed opponent. =)
that you want to nail a guy that's scary.
wow you just get dumber and use worse quotes. this is why I'm bringing this
to an end. lil Stevie you're dumb the only lady that likes you is your mom
and she has to.
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> >Audi/Porc.
> >are you gay is that why you want to nail a guy, I'm scared now.
>
> What in god's name are you spewing?
>
> > only in C &D not in over mags but I forgot since you can't prove them
wrong their now margina
>
> You're a throughly inadequte opponent. I refuse to have a battle of the
wits
> with an unarmed opponent. =)
that you want to nail a guy that's scary.
wow you just get dumber and use worse quotes. this is why I'm bringing this
to an end. lil Stevie you're dumb the only lady that likes you is your mom
and she has to.
05-08-2004, 04:20 PM
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Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
>wow you just get dumber and use worse quotes. this is why I'm bringing this
>to an end. lil Stevie you're dumb the only lady that likes you is your mom
>and she has to.
Obviously the rantings of a college graduate. LOL
>to an end. lil Stevie you're dumb the only lady that likes you is your mom
>and she has to.
Obviously the rantings of a college graduate. LOL
05-08-2004, 04:23 PM
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Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
>dumbass all wheel steering is not the same as AWD
I'm aware of this.
>if you look the 3000GT
>was FWD and had a LSD in the back.
Umm, no. The base and SL trim versions of the 3000GT were RWD. The AWD system
in the VR-4 was similar to the system Infiniti is using in their G35. There's
no FWD there.
>I could have swore that the GSX was used in a rally before the Lancer Evo
>came out. like the earlier 90s.
>
Well you're wrong, as usual. Eclipse's have been trimmed out by private owners
for rally in the past, as have Galant VR-4s which were also AWD. But the
facotry never ran them. They ran the Lancer and and believe they had a rally
version of the Colt hatch as well.
I'm aware of this.
>if you look the 3000GT
>was FWD and had a LSD in the back.
Umm, no. The base and SL trim versions of the 3000GT were RWD. The AWD system
in the VR-4 was similar to the system Infiniti is using in their G35. There's
no FWD there.
>I could have swore that the GSX was used in a rally before the Lancer Evo
>came out. like the earlier 90s.
>
Well you're wrong, as usual. Eclipse's have been trimmed out by private owners
for rally in the past, as have Galant VR-4s which were also AWD. But the
facotry never ran them. They ran the Lancer and and believe they had a rally
version of the Colt hatch as well.
05-08-2004, 04:40 PM
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>if you look at the turbos
Vw/Audi uses K03 and K04 turbos, Porsche was running K27s last I checked.
>tranny
Audi/VW share a 5-speed manual for the 1.8T. But the VW 6-speed and the Audi
six-speed are unique and not shared. Porsche's trannies are also not shared
over. They all use variations of the Tiptronic but there are hardware and
software controllers shared between them.
>AWD system
Sorry, wrong again. The 4Motion system that VW uses is a Haladex system also
used by the TT. But the Quattro system on the A4, A6 and A8 is different, as is
the system Porsche uses on the Turbo and C4. The Toureag and Cayenne also have
different variants of a system.
Vw/Audi uses K03 and K04 turbos, Porsche was running K27s last I checked.
>tranny
Audi/VW share a 5-speed manual for the 1.8T. But the VW 6-speed and the Audi
six-speed are unique and not shared. Porsche's trannies are also not shared
over. They all use variations of the Tiptronic but there are hardware and
software controllers shared between them.
>AWD system
Sorry, wrong again. The 4Motion system that VW uses is a Haladex system also
used by the TT. But the Quattro system on the A4, A6 and A8 is different, as is
the system Porsche uses on the Turbo and C4. The Toureag and Cayenne also have
different variants of a system.
05-10-2004, 04:19 PM
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Tha Ghee wrote:
>
> dumbass all wheel steering is not the same as AWD, if you look the 3000GT
> was FWD and had a LSD in the back. it's also had pseudo 4 wheel steering
> the rear tires moved between 4-5 degrees into the turn to help corning, but
> it DID NOT have AWD just FWD with LSD on the real wheels. yeah I have a
> vast knowledge of cars.
Does the term "VR4" mean anything to you? "dumbass"? There most
certainly *were* AWD 3000GTs.
--
Mike Smith
>
> dumbass all wheel steering is not the same as AWD, if you look the 3000GT
> was FWD and had a LSD in the back. it's also had pseudo 4 wheel steering
> the rear tires moved between 4-5 degrees into the turn to help corning, but
> it DID NOT have AWD just FWD with LSD on the real wheels. yeah I have a
> vast knowledge of cars.
Does the term "VR4" mean anything to you? "dumbass"? There most
certainly *were* AWD 3000GTs.
--
Mike Smith
05-10-2004, 05:33 PM
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Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
lsd means limited slip differental , but if it is fwd how can it slip at the
rear with acceleration ???
"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
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> Tha Ghee wrote:
> >
> > dumbass all wheel steering is not the same as AWD, if you look the
3000GT
> > was FWD and had a LSD in the back. it's also had pseudo 4 wheel
steering
> > the rear tires moved between 4-5 degrees into the turn to help corning,
but
> > it DID NOT have AWD just FWD with LSD on the real wheels. yeah I have a
> > vast knowledge of cars.
>
> Does the term "VR4" mean anything to you? "dumbass"? There most
> certainly *were* AWD 3000GTs.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
>
rear with acceleration ???
"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
news:109vsea7rir2ve5@news.supernews.com...
> Tha Ghee wrote:
> >
> > dumbass all wheel steering is not the same as AWD, if you look the
3000GT
> > was FWD and had a LSD in the back. it's also had pseudo 4 wheel
steering
> > the rear tires moved between 4-5 degrees into the turn to help corning,
but
> > it DID NOT have AWD just FWD with LSD on the real wheels. yeah I have a
> > vast knowledge of cars.
>
> Does the term "VR4" mean anything to you? "dumbass"? There most
> certainly *were* AWD 3000GTs.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
>
05-10-2004, 06:16 PM
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Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
johngerardoconnell@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> lsd means limited slip differental , but if it is fwd how can it slip at the
> rear with acceleration ???
Because it's Tha Ghee world. No physics laws apply there.
- Yak
> lsd means limited slip differental , but if it is fwd how can it slip at the
> rear with acceleration ???
Because it's Tha Ghee world. No physics laws apply there.
- Yak
