Re: Audi rear wiring loom
08-08-2005, 12:33 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
This is the same failure that was essentially a 100 percent guarantee of 'when'
rather than 'if' in the T44 series. Caused a number of seemingly unrelated
symptoms including dash lights failing.
Tony
Previous: four T44s '84 - '91
Current: 98.5 B5 A4 1.8TQM
patty wrote:
> 96 Cabriolet. Has anybody had problems with there rear wiring looms
> from the wing up the hinge into the boot lid?
> Mine failed the MOT for a fog light not working. Tracked this back the
> wiring loom. Sheath was undamaged but when I disected the sheath
> carefully I found all 8 wires completely severed. This inspired me to
> check the otherside and in that 5 out of 8 wires were snapped.
> Each loom £112+ vat or £300 fitted. Audi view expected wear and tear.
> Not happy, have failed to answer question about fire risk possed.
>
rather than 'if' in the T44 series. Caused a number of seemingly unrelated
symptoms including dash lights failing.
Tony
Previous: four T44s '84 - '91
Current: 98.5 B5 A4 1.8TQM
patty wrote:
> 96 Cabriolet. Has anybody had problems with there rear wiring looms
> from the wing up the hinge into the boot lid?
> Mine failed the MOT for a fog light not working. Tracked this back the
> wiring loom. Sheath was undamaged but when I disected the sheath
> carefully I found all 8 wires completely severed. This inspired me to
> check the otherside and in that 5 out of 8 wires were snapped.
> Each loom £112+ vat or £300 fitted. Audi view expected wear and tear.
> Not happy, have failed to answer question about fire risk possed.
>
08-08-2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
Patty,
Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying? I've heard
about many, many flexing-induced wire breaks in the door hinges and trunks
for our Audis - but I've never heard of a fire from them. Now if you're
talking about Bose rear speaker amps in Audi 200/V8's, there were a few
fires as I recall (no pun intended), before Audi began to address the
problem. I would have to ask why, after discovering the breaks in the
wires, someone would spend 2x£300 for looms when you could simply repair the
break with decent wire, crimp connectors, a set or ratchet crimpers and
maybe some heat shrink tubing to make it look pretty?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - BTDT with the driver's door - that was already repaired _at
least_ once by a previous owner
1980 Audi 5k - very few flexing wires, aka very few "features"
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - engine and radio have power
wires, very little else
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"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
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> This is the same failure that was essentially a 100 percent guarantee of
'when'
> rather than 'if' in the T44 series. Caused a number of seemingly unrelated
> symptoms including dash lights failing.
>
> Tony
> Previous: four T44s '84 - '91
> Current: 98.5 B5 A4 1.8TQM
>
> patty wrote:
> > 96 Cabriolet. Has anybody had problems with there rear wiring looms
> > from the wing up the hinge into the boot lid?
> > Mine failed the MOT for a fog light not working. Tracked this back the
> > wiring loom. Sheath was undamaged but when I disected the sheath
> > carefully I found all 8 wires completely severed. This inspired me to
> > check the otherside and in that 5 out of 8 wires were snapped.
> > Each loom £112+ vat or £300 fitted. Audi view expected wear and tear.
> > Not happy, have failed to answer question about fire risk possed.
> >
Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying? I've heard
about many, many flexing-induced wire breaks in the door hinges and trunks
for our Audis - but I've never heard of a fire from them. Now if you're
talking about Bose rear speaker amps in Audi 200/V8's, there were a few
fires as I recall (no pun intended), before Audi began to address the
problem. I would have to ask why, after discovering the breaks in the
wires, someone would spend 2x£300 for looms when you could simply repair the
break with decent wire, crimp connectors, a set or ratchet crimpers and
maybe some heat shrink tubing to make it look pretty?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - BTDT with the driver's door - that was already repaired _at
least_ once by a previous owner
1980 Audi 5k - very few flexing wires, aka very few "features"
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - engine and radio have power
wires, very little else
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"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
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> This is the same failure that was essentially a 100 percent guarantee of
'when'
> rather than 'if' in the T44 series. Caused a number of seemingly unrelated
> symptoms including dash lights failing.
>
> Tony
> Previous: four T44s '84 - '91
> Current: 98.5 B5 A4 1.8TQM
>
> patty wrote:
> > 96 Cabriolet. Has anybody had problems with there rear wiring looms
> > from the wing up the hinge into the boot lid?
> > Mine failed the MOT for a fog light not working. Tracked this back the
> > wiring loom. Sheath was undamaged but when I disected the sheath
> > carefully I found all 8 wires completely severed. This inspired me to
> > check the otherside and in that 5 out of 8 wires were snapped.
> > Each loom £112+ vat or £300 fitted. Audi view expected wear and tear.
> > Not happy, have failed to answer question about fire risk possed.
> >
08-08-2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
Patty,
Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying? I've heard
about many, many flexing-induced wire breaks in the door hinges and trunks
for our Audis - but I've never heard of a fire from them. Now if you're
talking about Bose rear speaker amps in Audi 200/V8's, there were a few
fires as I recall (no pun intended), before Audi began to address the
problem. I would have to ask why, after discovering the breaks in the
wires, someone would spend 2x£300 for looms when you could simply repair the
break with decent wire, crimp connectors, a set or ratchet crimpers and
maybe some heat shrink tubing to make it look pretty?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - BTDT with the driver's door - that was already repaired _at
least_ once by a previous owner
1980 Audi 5k - very few flexing wires, aka very few "features"
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - engine and radio have power
wires, very little else
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"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:11ff5qut11drr0d@corp.supernews.com...
> This is the same failure that was essentially a 100 percent guarantee of
'when'
> rather than 'if' in the T44 series. Caused a number of seemingly unrelated
> symptoms including dash lights failing.
>
> Tony
> Previous: four T44s '84 - '91
> Current: 98.5 B5 A4 1.8TQM
>
> patty wrote:
> > 96 Cabriolet. Has anybody had problems with there rear wiring looms
> > from the wing up the hinge into the boot lid?
> > Mine failed the MOT for a fog light not working. Tracked this back the
> > wiring loom. Sheath was undamaged but when I disected the sheath
> > carefully I found all 8 wires completely severed. This inspired me to
> > check the otherside and in that 5 out of 8 wires were snapped.
> > Each loom £112+ vat or £300 fitted. Audi view expected wear and tear.
> > Not happy, have failed to answer question about fire risk possed.
> >
Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying? I've heard
about many, many flexing-induced wire breaks in the door hinges and trunks
for our Audis - but I've never heard of a fire from them. Now if you're
talking about Bose rear speaker amps in Audi 200/V8's, there were a few
fires as I recall (no pun intended), before Audi began to address the
problem. I would have to ask why, after discovering the breaks in the
wires, someone would spend 2x£300 for looms when you could simply repair the
break with decent wire, crimp connectors, a set or ratchet crimpers and
maybe some heat shrink tubing to make it look pretty?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - BTDT with the driver's door - that was already repaired _at
least_ once by a previous owner
1980 Audi 5k - very few flexing wires, aka very few "features"
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - engine and radio have power
wires, very little else
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"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:11ff5qut11drr0d@corp.supernews.com...
> This is the same failure that was essentially a 100 percent guarantee of
'when'
> rather than 'if' in the T44 series. Caused a number of seemingly unrelated
> symptoms including dash lights failing.
>
> Tony
> Previous: four T44s '84 - '91
> Current: 98.5 B5 A4 1.8TQM
>
> patty wrote:
> > 96 Cabriolet. Has anybody had problems with there rear wiring looms
> > from the wing up the hinge into the boot lid?
> > Mine failed the MOT for a fog light not working. Tracked this back the
> > wiring loom. Sheath was undamaged but when I disected the sheath
> > carefully I found all 8 wires completely severed. This inspired me to
> > check the otherside and in that 5 out of 8 wires were snapped.
> > Each loom £112+ vat or £300 fitted. Audi view expected wear and tear.
> > Not happy, have failed to answer question about fire risk possed.
> >
08-08-2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
Patty,
Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying? I've heard
about many, many flexing-induced wire breaks in the door hinges and trunks
for our Audis - but I've never heard of a fire from them. Now if you're
talking about Bose rear speaker amps in Audi 200/V8's, there were a few
fires as I recall (no pun intended), before Audi began to address the
problem. I would have to ask why, after discovering the breaks in the
wires, someone would spend 2x£300 for looms when you could simply repair the
break with decent wire, crimp connectors, a set or ratchet crimpers and
maybe some heat shrink tubing to make it look pretty?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - BTDT with the driver's door - that was already repaired _at
least_ once by a previous owner
1980 Audi 5k - very few flexing wires, aka very few "features"
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - engine and radio have power
wires, very little else
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"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:11ff5qut11drr0d@corp.supernews.com...
> This is the same failure that was essentially a 100 percent guarantee of
'when'
> rather than 'if' in the T44 series. Caused a number of seemingly unrelated
> symptoms including dash lights failing.
>
> Tony
> Previous: four T44s '84 - '91
> Current: 98.5 B5 A4 1.8TQM
>
> patty wrote:
> > 96 Cabriolet. Has anybody had problems with there rear wiring looms
> > from the wing up the hinge into the boot lid?
> > Mine failed the MOT for a fog light not working. Tracked this back the
> > wiring loom. Sheath was undamaged but when I disected the sheath
> > carefully I found all 8 wires completely severed. This inspired me to
> > check the otherside and in that 5 out of 8 wires were snapped.
> > Each loom £112+ vat or £300 fitted. Audi view expected wear and tear.
> > Not happy, have failed to answer question about fire risk possed.
> >
Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying? I've heard
about many, many flexing-induced wire breaks in the door hinges and trunks
for our Audis - but I've never heard of a fire from them. Now if you're
talking about Bose rear speaker amps in Audi 200/V8's, there were a few
fires as I recall (no pun intended), before Audi began to address the
problem. I would have to ask why, after discovering the breaks in the
wires, someone would spend 2x£300 for looms when you could simply repair the
break with decent wire, crimp connectors, a set or ratchet crimpers and
maybe some heat shrink tubing to make it look pretty?
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - BTDT with the driver's door - that was already repaired _at
least_ once by a previous owner
1980 Audi 5k - very few flexing wires, aka very few "features"
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - engine and radio have power
wires, very little else
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:11ff5qut11drr0d@corp.supernews.com...
> This is the same failure that was essentially a 100 percent guarantee of
'when'
> rather than 'if' in the T44 series. Caused a number of seemingly unrelated
> symptoms including dash lights failing.
>
> Tony
> Previous: four T44s '84 - '91
> Current: 98.5 B5 A4 1.8TQM
>
> patty wrote:
> > 96 Cabriolet. Has anybody had problems with there rear wiring looms
> > from the wing up the hinge into the boot lid?
> > Mine failed the MOT for a fog light not working. Tracked this back the
> > wiring loom. Sheath was undamaged but when I disected the sheath
> > carefully I found all 8 wires completely severed. This inspired me to
> > check the otherside and in that 5 out of 8 wires were snapped.
> > Each loom £112+ vat or £300 fitted. Audi view expected wear and tear.
> > Not happy, have failed to answer question about fire risk possed.
> >
08-08-2005, 05:20 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
The message <O8NJe.4391$6d4.488459@news20.bellglobal.com>
from "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> contains these words:
> Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying?
Shouldn't matter. The fuses are there to protect the circuit from
melting under overload so there's little fire risk unless it's a really
high current device. Few cars have the starter motor in the boot lid...
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
from "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> contains these words:
> Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying?
Shouldn't matter. The fuses are there to protect the circuit from
melting under overload so there's little fire risk unless it's a really
high current device. Few cars have the starter motor in the boot lid...
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
08-08-2005, 05:20 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
The message <O8NJe.4391$6d4.488459@news20.bellglobal.com>
from "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> contains these words:
> Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying?
Shouldn't matter. The fuses are there to protect the circuit from
melting under overload so there's little fire risk unless it's a really
high current device. Few cars have the starter motor in the boot lid...
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
from "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> contains these words:
> Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying?
Shouldn't matter. The fuses are there to protect the circuit from
melting under overload so there's little fire risk unless it's a really
high current device. Few cars have the starter motor in the boot lid...
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
08-08-2005, 05:20 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
The message <O8NJe.4391$6d4.488459@news20.bellglobal.com>
from "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> contains these words:
> Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying?
Shouldn't matter. The fuses are there to protect the circuit from
melting under overload so there's little fire risk unless it's a really
high current device. Few cars have the starter motor in the boot lid...
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
from "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> contains these words:
> Fire risk? How much current are those small wires carrying?
Shouldn't matter. The fuses are there to protect the circuit from
melting under overload so there's little fire risk unless it's a really
high current device. Few cars have the starter motor in the boot lid...
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
08-10-2005, 03:07 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
The message <1_646236_5b0bfe3442075dac315bfeb5d1200980@autofor umz.com>
from patty <UseLinkToEmail@> contains these words:
> What do you think?
Seems reasonable. However, in my experience of wires breaking in the
hinge between body and bootlid they never actually seem to melt. I've
had it happen in quite a number of cars over the years.
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
from patty <UseLinkToEmail@> contains these words:
> What do you think?
Seems reasonable. However, in my experience of wires breaking in the
hinge between body and bootlid they never actually seem to melt. I've
had it happen in quite a number of cars over the years.
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
08-10-2005, 03:07 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
The message <1_646236_5b0bfe3442075dac315bfeb5d1200980@autofor umz.com>
from patty <UseLinkToEmail@> contains these words:
> What do you think?
Seems reasonable. However, in my experience of wires breaking in the
hinge between body and bootlid they never actually seem to melt. I've
had it happen in quite a number of cars over the years.
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
from patty <UseLinkToEmail@> contains these words:
> What do you think?
Seems reasonable. However, in my experience of wires breaking in the
hinge between body and bootlid they never actually seem to melt. I've
had it happen in quite a number of cars over the years.
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
08-10-2005, 03:07 PM
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Re: Audi rear wiring loom
The message <1_646236_5b0bfe3442075dac315bfeb5d1200980@autofor umz.com>
from patty <UseLinkToEmail@> contains these words:
> What do you think?
Seems reasonable. However, in my experience of wires breaking in the
hinge between body and bootlid they never actually seem to melt. I've
had it happen in quite a number of cars over the years.
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
from patty <UseLinkToEmail@> contains these words:
> What do you think?
Seems reasonable. However, in my experience of wires breaking in the
hinge between body and bootlid they never actually seem to melt. I've
had it happen in quite a number of cars over the years.
--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
