question on 6-sp manual
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
"Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> [...]
>
> But it is harder to overcome the spring pressure when pushing the gear
> lever away from you (as in next to first gear) than when pulling it
> towards you (as in next to fifth or sixth gear). If you happen to be
> in one of those countries where the gear lever is on your right hand
> side, then I can only feel sorry for you!
"One of those countries"? I do appreciate a good joke.
> [...]
>
> But it is harder to overcome the spring pressure when pushing the gear
> lever away from you (as in next to first gear) than when pulling it
> towards you (as in next to fifth or sixth gear). If you happen to be
> in one of those countries where the gear lever is on your right hand
> side, then I can only feel sorry for you!
"One of those countries"? I do appreciate a good joke.
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
French tanks are similar, oh no sorry, they go
F R1 R3 R5
R2 R4 R6
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"Digital Puer" <digital_puer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I was looking at the Audi A4 Quattro. It has a 6-speed manual,
> which I've never driven before (I've only driven 5-sp). The gearstick
> has a weird configuration:
>
> R 1 3 5
> 2 4 6
>
> that's kind of odd, no? I would think that if I drove this, I might
> shift it into R instead of 1 by mistake. Does anyone have any experience
> with this?
F R1 R3 R5
R2 R4 R6
clanger
"Digital Puer" <digital_puer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I was looking at the Audi A4 Quattro. It has a 6-speed manual,
> which I've never driven before (I've only driven 5-sp). The gearstick
> has a weird configuration:
>
> R 1 3 5
> 2 4 6
>
> that's kind of odd, no? I would think that if I drove this, I might
> shift it into R instead of 1 by mistake. Does anyone have any experience
> with this?
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
digital_puer@hotmail.com (Digital Puer) wrote in message news:<80678590.0311232121.2ec6bdae@posting.google. com>...
> I was looking at the Audi A4 Quattro. It has a 6-speed manual,
> which I've never driven before (I've only driven 5-sp). The gearstick
> has a weird configuration:
>
> R 1 3 5
> 2 4 6
>
> that's kind of odd, no? I would think that if I drove this, I might
> shift it into R instead of 1 by mistake. Does anyone have any experience
> with this?
I have the A4 6 speed and it is not an issue. I have to push the
shifter down first to engage R.
Howard
> I was looking at the Audi A4 Quattro. It has a 6-speed manual,
> which I've never driven before (I've only driven 5-sp). The gearstick
> has a weird configuration:
>
> R 1 3 5
> 2 4 6
>
> that's kind of odd, no? I would think that if I drove this, I might
> shift it into R instead of 1 by mistake. Does anyone have any experience
> with this?
I have the A4 6 speed and it is not an issue. I have to push the
shifter down first to engage R.
Howard
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
Digital Puer wrote:
> I was looking at the Audi A4 Quattro. It has a 6-speed manual,
> which I've never driven before (I've only driven 5-sp). The gearstick
> has a weird configuration:
>
> R 1 3 5
> 2 4 6
>
> that's kind of odd, no?
Not particularly. I've even seen that configuration on 5-speeds before.
--
Mike Smith
> I was looking at the Audi A4 Quattro. It has a 6-speed manual,
> which I've never driven before (I've only driven 5-sp). The gearstick
> has a weird configuration:
>
> R 1 3 5
> 2 4 6
>
> that's kind of odd, no?
Not particularly. I've even seen that configuration on 5-speeds before.
--
Mike Smith
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
In message <74swb.221630$9E1.1213208@attbi_s52>
"Victor Bazarov" <v.Abazarov@comAcast.net> wrote:
> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> > [...]
> >
> > But it is harder to overcome the spring pressure when pushing the gear
> > lever away from you (as in next to first gear) than when pulling it
> > towards you (as in next to fifth or sixth gear). If you happen to be
> > in one of those countries where the gear lever is on your right hand
> > side, then I can only feel sorry for you!
>
> "One of those countries"? I do appreciate a good joke.
What's the joke? I believe that more than 50% of the world's
population live in countries where the rule is to drive on the left
hand side of the road.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
"Victor Bazarov" <v.Abazarov@comAcast.net> wrote:
> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> > [...]
> >
> > But it is harder to overcome the spring pressure when pushing the gear
> > lever away from you (as in next to first gear) than when pulling it
> > towards you (as in next to fifth or sixth gear). If you happen to be
> > in one of those countries where the gear lever is on your right hand
> > side, then I can only feel sorry for you!
>
> "One of those countries"? I do appreciate a good joke.
What's the joke? I believe that more than 50% of the world's
population live in countries where the rule is to drive on the left
hand side of the road.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
"Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> In message <74swb.221630$9E1.1213208@attbi_s52>
> "Victor Bazarov" <v.Abazarov@comAcast.net> wrote:
>
> > "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > But it is harder to overcome the spring pressure when pushing the gear
> > > lever away from you (as in next to first gear) than when pulling it
> > > towards you (as in next to fifth or sixth gear). If you happen to be
> > > in one of those countries where the gear lever is on your right hand
> > > side, then I can only feel sorry for you!
> >
> > "One of those countries"? I do appreciate a good joke.
>
> What's the joke? I believe that more than 50% of the world's
> population live in countries where the rule is to drive on the left
> hand side of the road.
Well, I believe you believe wrong. This link:
http://www.travel-library.com/genera...hich_side.html
gives 34% "lefties" versus 66% "righties". Oh, of course, it's for
1996... But _I_believe_ the distribution of the Earth's population
hasn't changed too much since then. And I don't believe any countries
suddenly changed the side of the road they drive on.
Of course, _living_ in a country with driving on a certain side of
the road and being able (or having anything) to _drive_ in it is
a completely different story. How many do you think actually
_drive_passenger_cars_ in those countries? So, THAT's pretty much
an open question, not how many countries there are with a particular
rule or how many people live in them.
> In message <74swb.221630$9E1.1213208@attbi_s52>
> "Victor Bazarov" <v.Abazarov@comAcast.net> wrote:
>
> > "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > But it is harder to overcome the spring pressure when pushing the gear
> > > lever away from you (as in next to first gear) than when pulling it
> > > towards you (as in next to fifth or sixth gear). If you happen to be
> > > in one of those countries where the gear lever is on your right hand
> > > side, then I can only feel sorry for you!
> >
> > "One of those countries"? I do appreciate a good joke.
>
> What's the joke? I believe that more than 50% of the world's
> population live in countries where the rule is to drive on the left
> hand side of the road.
Well, I believe you believe wrong. This link:
http://www.travel-library.com/genera...hich_side.html
gives 34% "lefties" versus 66% "righties". Oh, of course, it's for
1996... But _I_believe_ the distribution of the Earth's population
hasn't changed too much since then. And I don't believe any countries
suddenly changed the side of the road they drive on.
Of course, _living_ in a country with driving on a certain side of
the road and being able (or having anything) to _drive_ in it is
a completely different story. How many do you think actually
_drive_passenger_cars_ in those countries? So, THAT's pretty much
an open question, not how many countries there are with a particular
rule or how many people live in them.
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
"Victor Bazarov" <v.Abazarov@comAcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> > In message <74swb.221630$9E1.1213208@attbi_s52>
> > "Victor Bazarov" <v.Abazarov@comAcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > But it is harder to overcome the spring pressure when pushing the
gear
> > > > lever away from you (as in next to first gear) than when pulling it
> > > > towards you (as in next to fifth or sixth gear). If you happen to
be
> > > > in one of those countries where the gear lever is on your right hand
> > > > side, then I can only feel sorry for you!
> > >
> > > "One of those countries"? I do appreciate a good joke.
> >
> > What's the joke? I believe that more than 50% of the world's
> > population live in countries where the rule is to drive on the left
> > hand side of the road.
>
> Well, I believe you believe wrong. This link:
> http://www.travel-library.com/genera...hich_side.html
Well, quite. Interesting link (I guess that one gets totally different
"origin" stories when one is based in a different continent. IMHO he missed
a /great/ set of stories by skipping the Greek changeover ;o)
Mind you, China aside, and his figures get a /lot/ closer.. and that's
excluding the countries that decided right-handed people would be safer if
they held the steering wheel in their left hand while changing gear.
Like most opinions (including mine - I'm no chauvinist), it's probably based
on the theory "I've been doin' it, so that's the best way to do it. An' now
I'm gonna prove it")
H1K
news:nZvwb.222450$9E1.1217934@attbi_s52...
> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> > In message <74swb.221630$9E1.1213208@attbi_s52>
> > "Victor Bazarov" <v.Abazarov@comAcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote...
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > But it is harder to overcome the spring pressure when pushing the
gear
> > > > lever away from you (as in next to first gear) than when pulling it
> > > > towards you (as in next to fifth or sixth gear). If you happen to
be
> > > > in one of those countries where the gear lever is on your right hand
> > > > side, then I can only feel sorry for you!
> > >
> > > "One of those countries"? I do appreciate a good joke.
> >
> > What's the joke? I believe that more than 50% of the world's
> > population live in countries where the rule is to drive on the left
> > hand side of the road.
>
> Well, I believe you believe wrong. This link:
> http://www.travel-library.com/genera...hich_side.html
Well, quite. Interesting link (I guess that one gets totally different
"origin" stories when one is based in a different continent. IMHO he missed
a /great/ set of stories by skipping the Greek changeover ;o)
Mind you, China aside, and his figures get a /lot/ closer.. and that's
excluding the countries that decided right-handed people would be safer if
they held the steering wheel in their left hand while changing gear.
Like most opinions (including mine - I'm no chauvinist), it's probably based
on the theory "I've been doin' it, so that's the best way to do it. An' now
I'm gonna prove it")
H1K
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
On 24 Nov 2003 08:32:32 -0800, Digital Puer <digital_puer@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Mark Allread <mallread@flatsurface.com> wrote in message
> news:<opry44yff2bsorsk@news.chartermi.com>...
>> On 23 Nov 2003 21:21:11 -0800, Digital Puer <digital_puer@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I was looking at the Audi A4 Quattro. It has a 6-speed manual,
>> > which I've never driven before (I've only driven 5-sp). The gearstick
>> > has a weird configuration:
>> >
>> > R 1 3 5
>> > 2 4 6
>> >
>> > that's kind of odd, no?
>>
>> No. Where would you place reverse, and what cars have you driven that
>> you find this pattern "weird?"
>
>
> Other 6-sp cars of which I know place the R to the right of 5. If
> you're in 4th gear and want to shift to 5, there is some sort of
> automatic system that prevents you from accidentally shifting into R.
>
> In Audi's case, if you're in neutral, I would think that it would be
> just as easy to accidentally shift into R as into 1st unless you're
> used to it.
Nope. There is, as you say, an "automatic system" to prevent that.
You have to *push down* before you can move into the reverse gate. It's
obvious you haven't actually driven one.
--
Mark
wrote:
> Mark Allread <mallread@flatsurface.com> wrote in message
> news:<opry44yff2bsorsk@news.chartermi.com>...
>> On 23 Nov 2003 21:21:11 -0800, Digital Puer <digital_puer@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I was looking at the Audi A4 Quattro. It has a 6-speed manual,
>> > which I've never driven before (I've only driven 5-sp). The gearstick
>> > has a weird configuration:
>> >
>> > R 1 3 5
>> > 2 4 6
>> >
>> > that's kind of odd, no?
>>
>> No. Where would you place reverse, and what cars have you driven that
>> you find this pattern "weird?"
>
>
> Other 6-sp cars of which I know place the R to the right of 5. If
> you're in 4th gear and want to shift to 5, there is some sort of
> automatic system that prevents you from accidentally shifting into R.
>
> In Audi's case, if you're in neutral, I would think that it would be
> just as easy to accidentally shift into R as into 1st unless you're
> used to it.
Nope. There is, as you say, an "automatic system" to prevent that.
You have to *push down* before you can move into the reverse gate. It's
obvious you haven't actually driven one.
--
Mark
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
Mark Allread wrote:
>
> On 24 Nov 2003 08:32:32 -0800, Digital Puer <digital_puer@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Mark Allread <mallread@flatsurface.com> wrote in message
> > news:<opry44yff2bsorsk@news.chartermi.com>...
> >> On 23 Nov 2003 21:21:11 -0800, Digital Puer <digital_puer@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I was looking at the Audi A4 Quattro. It has a 6-speed manual,
> >> > which I've never driven before (I've only driven 5-sp). The gearstick
> >> > has a weird configuration:
> >> >
> >> > R 1 3 5
> >> > 2 4 6
> >> >
> >> > that's kind of odd, no?
> >>
> >> No. Where would you place reverse, and what cars have you driven that
> >> you find this pattern "weird?"
> >
> >
> > Other 6-sp cars of which I know place the R to the right of 5. If
> > you're in 4th gear and want to shift to 5, there is some sort of
> > automatic system that prevents you from accidentally shifting into R.
> >
> > In Audi's case, if you're in neutral, I would think that it would be
> > just as easy to accidentally shift into R as into 1st unless you're
> > used to it.
>
> Nope. There is, as you say, an "automatic system" to prevent that.
>
> You have to *push down* before you can move into the reverse gate. It's
> obvious you haven't actually driven one.
>
Of course I haven't driven one. Didn't you even bother to read my
original post? "It has a 6-speed manual, which I've never driven
before. (I've only driven 5-sp)."
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Re: question on 6-sp manual
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:47:21 -0500, Mark Allread <mallread@flatsurface.com>
wrote:
>On 24 Nov 2003 08:32:32 -0800, Digital Puer <digital_puer@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Other 6-sp cars of which I know place the R to the right of 5. If
>> you're in 4th gear and want to shift to 5, there is some sort of
>> automatic system that prevents you from accidentally shifting into R.
>>
>> In Audi's case, if you're in neutral, I would think that it would be
>> just as easy to accidentally shift into R as into 1st unless you're
>> used to it.
>
>Nope. There is, as you say, an "automatic system" to prevent that.
>
>You have to *push down* before you can move into the reverse gate.
>obvious you haven't actually driven one.
I think that was established at Square One
/daytripper
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wrote:
>On 24 Nov 2003 08:32:32 -0800, Digital Puer <digital_puer@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Other 6-sp cars of which I know place the R to the right of 5. If
>> you're in 4th gear and want to shift to 5, there is some sort of
>> automatic system that prevents you from accidentally shifting into R.
>>
>> In Audi's case, if you're in neutral, I would think that it would be
>> just as easy to accidentally shift into R as into 1st unless you're
>> used to it.
>
>Nope. There is, as you say, an "automatic system" to prevent that.
>
>You have to *push down* before you can move into the reverse gate.
>obvious you haven't actually driven one.
I think that was established at Square One
/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd