Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might have had
some similar experience?
"Jules" <dfghsfdgsdfghifdguhsd@sjdfhgskfdhgk.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> Yeah, I read the exact same thing happened to you before too.
> And you're still surprised?
>
>
>
>
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>> park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right
>> wheels
>> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
>> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro
>> would
>> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the
>> car
>> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
>> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
>> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough
>> clearance
>> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
>> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
>> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
>> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>>
>> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
>> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in
>> his
>> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were
>> telling
>> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they
>> got
>> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept
>> spinning
>> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>>
>> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
>> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
>> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two
>> sides
>> of the car alongside.
>>
>> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had
>> been
>> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro
>> and
>> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to
>> understand why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>>
>> JP Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
some similar experience?
"Jules" <dfghsfdgsdfghifdguhsd@sjdfhgskfdhgk.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> Yeah, I read the exact same thing happened to you before too.
> And you're still surprised?
>
>
>
>
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>> park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right
>> wheels
>> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
>> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro
>> would
>> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the
>> car
>> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
>> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
>> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough
>> clearance
>> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
>> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
>> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
>> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>>
>> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
>> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in
>> his
>> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were
>> telling
>> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they
>> got
>> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept
>> spinning
>> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>>
>> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
>> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
>> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two
>> sides
>> of the car alongside.
>>
>> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had
>> been
>> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro
>> and
>> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to
>> understand why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>>
>> JP Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might have had
some similar experience?
"Jules" <dfghsfdgsdfghifdguhsd@sjdfhgskfdhgk.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> Yeah, I read the exact same thing happened to you before too.
> And you're still surprised?
>
>
>
>
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>> park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right
>> wheels
>> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
>> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro
>> would
>> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the
>> car
>> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
>> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
>> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough
>> clearance
>> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
>> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
>> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
>> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>>
>> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
>> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in
>> his
>> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were
>> telling
>> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they
>> got
>> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept
>> spinning
>> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>>
>> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
>> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
>> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two
>> sides
>> of the car alongside.
>>
>> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had
>> been
>> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro
>> and
>> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to
>> understand why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>>
>> JP Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
some similar experience?
"Jules" <dfghsfdgsdfghifdguhsd@sjdfhgskfdhgk.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:W_f4e.38$K24.25@read1.cgocable.net...
> Yeah, I read the exact same thing happened to you before too.
> And you're still surprised?
>
>
>
>
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>> park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right
>> wheels
>> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
>> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro
>> would
>> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the
>> car
>> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
>> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
>> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough
>> clearance
>> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
>> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
>> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
>> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>>
>> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
>> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in
>> his
>> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were
>> telling
>> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they
>> got
>> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept
>> spinning
>> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>>
>> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
>> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
>> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two
>> sides
>> of the car alongside.
>>
>> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had
>> been
>> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro
>> and
>> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to
>> understand why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>>
>> JP Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might have had
some similar experience?
"Jules" <dfghsfdgsdfghifdguhsd@sjdfhgskfdhgk.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:W_f4e.38$K24.25@read1.cgocable.net...
> Yeah, I read the exact same thing happened to you before too.
> And you're still surprised?
>
>
>
>
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>> park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right
>> wheels
>> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
>> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro
>> would
>> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the
>> car
>> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
>> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
>> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough
>> clearance
>> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
>> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
>> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
>> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>>
>> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
>> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in
>> his
>> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were
>> telling
>> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they
>> got
>> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept
>> spinning
>> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>>
>> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
>> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
>> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two
>> sides
>> of the car alongside.
>>
>> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had
>> been
>> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro
>> and
>> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to
>> understand why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>>
>> JP Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
some similar experience?
"Jules" <dfghsfdgsdfghifdguhsd@sjdfhgskfdhgk.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:W_f4e.38$K24.25@read1.cgocable.net...
> Yeah, I read the exact same thing happened to you before too.
> And you're still surprised?
>
>
>
>
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>> park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right
>> wheels
>> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
>> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro
>> would
>> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the
>> car
>> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
>> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
>> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough
>> clearance
>> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
>> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
>> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
>> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>>
>> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
>> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in
>> his
>> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were
>> telling
>> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they
>> got
>> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept
>> spinning
>> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>>
>> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
>> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
>> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two
>> sides
>> of the car alongside.
>>
>> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had
>> been
>> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro
>> and
>> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to
>> understand why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>>
>> JP Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
JP Roberts wrote:
> I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might
have had
> some similar experience?
If you must top-post, could you at least trim out some of the previous
stuff?
Anyway, posting identical stuff a few days apart in a group that gets
limited traffic will almost guarantee that the two posts will end up on
the very same page of subject titles. But it is interesting that you
posted using two different titles, and the bodies of the messages
unchanged.
The bottom line? Everyone who cares read the first posting. Why don't
you post it again in a month or three - you might pick up a couple of
different readers.
HAND,
E.P.
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
JP Roberts wrote:
> I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might
have had
> some similar experience?
If you must top-post, could you at least trim out some of the previous
stuff?
Anyway, posting identical stuff a few days apart in a group that gets
limited traffic will almost guarantee that the two posts will end up on
the very same page of subject titles. But it is interesting that you
posted using two different titles, and the bodies of the messages
unchanged.
The bottom line? Everyone who cares read the first posting. Why don't
you post it again in a month or three - you might pick up a couple of
different readers.
HAND,
E.P.
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
JP Roberts wrote:
> I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might
have had
> some similar experience?
If you must top-post, could you at least trim out some of the previous
stuff?
Anyway, posting identical stuff a few days apart in a group that gets
limited traffic will almost guarantee that the two posts will end up on
the very same page of subject titles. But it is interesting that you
posted using two different titles, and the bodies of the messages
unchanged.
The bottom line? Everyone who cares read the first posting. Why don't
you post it again in a month or three - you might pick up a couple of
different readers.
HAND,
E.P.
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
The bottom line, which happens to be the top one here, is that since Quattro
has always been the real appeal of buying an Audi, it should at least worry
many more people than the ones who bothered to reply that it fails to work
as advertised. I thought you American guys had some very strict laws about
this.
<gcmschemist@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1112730381.143565.113810@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might
> have had
>> some similar experience?
>
> If you must top-post, could you at least trim out some of the previous
> stuff?
>
> Anyway, posting identical stuff a few days apart in a group that gets
> limited traffic will almost guarantee that the two posts will end up on
> the very same page of subject titles. But it is interesting that you
> posted using two different titles, and the bodies of the messages
> unchanged.
>
> The bottom line? Everyone who cares read the first posting. Why don't
> you post it again in a month or three - you might pick up a couple of
> different readers.
>
> HAND,
>
> E.P.
>
has always been the real appeal of buying an Audi, it should at least worry
many more people than the ones who bothered to reply that it fails to work
as advertised. I thought you American guys had some very strict laws about
this.
<gcmschemist@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1112730381.143565.113810@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might
> have had
>> some similar experience?
>
> If you must top-post, could you at least trim out some of the previous
> stuff?
>
> Anyway, posting identical stuff a few days apart in a group that gets
> limited traffic will almost guarantee that the two posts will end up on
> the very same page of subject titles. But it is interesting that you
> posted using two different titles, and the bodies of the messages
> unchanged.
>
> The bottom line? Everyone who cares read the first posting. Why don't
> you post it again in a month or three - you might pick up a couple of
> different readers.
>
> HAND,
>
> E.P.
>
#18
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
The bottom line, which happens to be the top one here, is that since Quattro
has always been the real appeal of buying an Audi, it should at least worry
many more people than the ones who bothered to reply that it fails to work
as advertised. I thought you American guys had some very strict laws about
this.
<gcmschemist@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1112730381.143565.113810@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might
> have had
>> some similar experience?
>
> If you must top-post, could you at least trim out some of the previous
> stuff?
>
> Anyway, posting identical stuff a few days apart in a group that gets
> limited traffic will almost guarantee that the two posts will end up on
> the very same page of subject titles. But it is interesting that you
> posted using two different titles, and the bodies of the messages
> unchanged.
>
> The bottom line? Everyone who cares read the first posting. Why don't
> you post it again in a month or three - you might pick up a couple of
> different readers.
>
> HAND,
>
> E.P.
>
has always been the real appeal of buying an Audi, it should at least worry
many more people than the ones who bothered to reply that it fails to work
as advertised. I thought you American guys had some very strict laws about
this.
<gcmschemist@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1112730381.143565.113810@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might
> have had
>> some similar experience?
>
> If you must top-post, could you at least trim out some of the previous
> stuff?
>
> Anyway, posting identical stuff a few days apart in a group that gets
> limited traffic will almost guarantee that the two posts will end up on
> the very same page of subject titles. But it is interesting that you
> posted using two different titles, and the bodies of the messages
> unchanged.
>
> The bottom line? Everyone who cares read the first posting. Why don't
> you post it again in a month or three - you might pick up a couple of
> different readers.
>
> HAND,
>
> E.P.
>
#19
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
The bottom line, which happens to be the top one here, is that since Quattro
has always been the real appeal of buying an Audi, it should at least worry
many more people than the ones who bothered to reply that it fails to work
as advertised. I thought you American guys had some very strict laws about
this.
<gcmschemist@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1112730381.143565.113810@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might
> have had
>> some similar experience?
>
> If you must top-post, could you at least trim out some of the previous
> stuff?
>
> Anyway, posting identical stuff a few days apart in a group that gets
> limited traffic will almost guarantee that the two posts will end up on
> the very same page of subject titles. But it is interesting that you
> posted using two different titles, and the bodies of the messages
> unchanged.
>
> The bottom line? Everyone who cares read the first posting. Why don't
> you post it again in a month or three - you might pick up a couple of
> different readers.
>
> HAND,
>
> E.P.
>
has always been the real appeal of buying an Audi, it should at least worry
many more people than the ones who bothered to reply that it fails to work
as advertised. I thought you American guys had some very strict laws about
this.
<gcmschemist@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1112730381.143565.113810@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> I thought it might skipped some people's attention, and these might
> have had
>> some similar experience?
>
> If you must top-post, could you at least trim out some of the previous
> stuff?
>
> Anyway, posting identical stuff a few days apart in a group that gets
> limited traffic will almost guarantee that the two posts will end up on
> the very same page of subject titles. But it is interesting that you
> posted using two different titles, and the bodies of the messages
> unchanged.
>
> The bottom line? Everyone who cares read the first posting. Why don't
> you post it again in a month or three - you might pick up a couple of
> different readers.
>
> HAND,
>
> E.P.
>
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
JP Roberts wrote:
> The bottom line, which happens to be the top one here, is that since
Quattro
> has always been the real appeal of buying an Audi, it should at least
worry
> many more people than the ones who bothered to reply that it fails to
work
> as advertised. I thought you American guys had some very strict laws
about
> this.
>
And if you want to reach them, a limited-traffic newsgroup like this
one isn't the answer. Take an ad out in a newspaper. Posting your sob
story every week won't do anything.
Bottom-line: the folks who care have read your post. Please don't
post the same story again. Post a link to it next time.
BTW, I have never seen any advertisements that claim that one side or
the other of the car will get power if the other slips. Quattro is a
front/rear thing, not a side/side thing.
My quattro has a vacuum-actuated diff lock engaged with an electric
switch. Works great, and self-disengages on speeds above 10mph or on
turns below a certain radius.
E.P.