Frank

The new A4 1.8t with ultra-sport package looks sweet for those of us
who can't afford a (new) S4.

But what baffles me is that a car that starts at $27k (quattro, 6-spd)
still has leather as an option. Leather, when it is an option, costs
about $1000 (ok, maybe 1200, 1300) in many cars, but here it is
friggin' $2000!!!

Also, if one loads up an A4 1.8t with every conceivable option, the
price is in the $37,000 range, (just a few thousand less than a B5 S4
sold for a few years ago) but the front passenger STILL has a manual
seat adjustment, just like in a $15k base Jetta with cloth seats and
crank windows.

It's even possible to get rear side airbags in this car, bringing the
total # of airbags, to, what, 8? 10? and it still has a manual seat
adjustment for the front passenger.

And why not tune the 1.8t a bit better to get 180 or 190 HP? A Jetta
with the 1.8t engine gets 180 HP.

What gives?

Pete

"Frank" <basic@post.com> wrote in message
> It's even possible to get rear side airbags in this car, bringing the
> total # of airbags, to, what, 8? 10? and it still has a manual seat
> adjustment for the front passenger.

What's the big deal with no electric seat adjustment? How often do you
find yourself adjusting the seat? Unless the car is driven by several
people (personally, I don't let anyone drive my A4 ), it's a "set it
and forget it" type of thing. Don't need any more electrical crap to
possibly go wrong...

>
> And why not tune the 1.8t a bit better to get 180 or 190 HP? A Jetta
> with the 1.8t engine gets 180 HP.
>
> What gives?

The 220hp V6 is what gives. If they up the 1.8T in hp and torque, there
will be very little incentive for people to spend money on the 3.0 V6.

There are 190hp versions of the 1.8T A4 in Europe, however. Of course
they cost more, too.

Cheers,

Pete

o_0

In alt.autos.audi, basic@post.com (Frank) wrote:

>The new A4 1.8t with ultra-sport package looks sweet for those of us
>who can't afford a (new) S4.
>
>But what baffles me is that a car that starts at $27k (quattro, 6-spd)
>still has leather as an option. Leather, when it is an option, costs
>about $1000 (ok, maybe 1200, 1300) in many cars, but here it is
>friggin' $2000!!!

Don't get us Europeans started on your cheap-*** cars
again. $27k gets us *just* the leather seats without the
car.

Ron

"Frank" <basic@post.com> wrote in message
news:13b77305.0402241438.18401636@posting.google.c om...
> The new A4 1.8t with ultra-sport package looks sweet for those of us
> who can't afford a (new) S4.
>
> But what baffles me is that a car that starts at $27k (quattro, 6-spd)
> still has leather as an option. Leather, when it is an option, costs
> about $1000 (ok, maybe 1200, 1300) in many cars, but here it is
> friggin' $2000!!!
>
> Also, if one loads up an A4 1.8t with every conceivable option, the
> price is in the $37,000 range, (just a few thousand less than a B5 S4
> sold for a few years ago) but the front passenger STILL has a manual
> seat adjustment, just like in a $15k base Jetta with cloth seats and
> crank windows.
>
> It's even possible to get rear side airbags in this car, bringing the
> total # of airbags, to, what, 8? 10? and it still has a manual seat
> adjustment for the front passenger.
>
> And why not tune the 1.8t a bit better to get 180 or 190 HP? A Jetta
> with the 1.8t engine gets 180 HP.
>
> What gives?

Thats the problem with living in the US, in the UK you can choose between 6
different 1.8T's

one of them is the 190bhp

Just for you I spec'd a top of the range Audi A4 Qauttro S - Line 190bhp

A4 Saloon

1.8 T quattro S line 190 PS 6 speed £ 22,650.00

Audi exclusive colours £ 1,500.00

Silver, black-black, black, black

Load Area Pack £ 65.00

Storage Pack £ 75.00

Acoustic parking aid - rear only £ 350.00

Acoustic parking aid - front and rear £ 510.00

Headlight washers £ 215.00

Aluminium trim strips £ 130.00

Heated, automatic dipping and folding door mirrors £ 360.00

Electric slide and tilt solar sunroof £ 990.00

Cool box £ 55.00

Manual side window blinds with electric rear blind £ 280.00

Electric rear windows £ 300.00

Boot load liner £ 130.00

Front centre armrest £ 110.00

Automatic dipping rear view mirror £ 160.00

Through-load facility - ski bag £ 170.00

Electric front seats £ 800.00

ISOFIX child seat preparation £ 70.00

Heated front and rear seats £ 600.00

Cruise control £ 400.00

Rear side airbags £ 375.00

Xenon headlights £ 750.00

Sports suspension £ 250.00

Servotronic power steering £ 165.00

Cassette box holder £ 40.00

DVD Satellite navigation system Plus £ 2,175.00

BOSE sound system £ 450.00

GSM mobile telephone preparation £ 400.00

TV and Teletext function £ 705.00



O.T.R. Price £ 36,005.00


I have then converted that to $$$$$ for you
36,005.00 GBP
United Kingdom Pounds = 68,044.30 USD
United States Dollars
1 GBP = 1.88986 USD 1 USD = 0.529141 GBP


So .... thats 68k bucks for a top of the range 1.8T and that comes with
leccy seats

Ronny

xymergy@suds.com

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:44:15 +0100, "Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Frank" <basic@post.com> wrote in message
>> It's even possible to get rear side airbags in this car, bringing the
>> total # of airbags, to, what, 8? 10? and it still has a manual seat
>> adjustment for the front passenger.
>
>What's the big deal with no electric seat adjustment? How often do you
>find yourself adjusting the seat? Unless the car is driven by several
>people (personally, I don't let anyone drive my A4 ), it's a "set it
>and forget it" type of thing. Don't need any more electrical crap to
>possibly go wrong...

Honey, he was talking about the PASSENGER seat, not the driver seat.

Pete

<xymergy@suds.com> wrote in message >
> Honey, he was talking about the PASSENGER seat, not the driver seat.

My bad, sweetheart.



Pete

Frank

"Ron" <ron@ron114.com> wrote in message news:<8DQ_b.1518$7Z7.13049979@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> "Frank" <basic@post.com> wrote in message
> news:13b77305.0402241438.18401636@posting.google.c om...
> > The new A4 1.8t with ultra-sport package looks sweet for those of us
> > who can't afford a (new) S4.
--------lots of specs snipped-----
> O.T.R. Price £ 36,005.00
>
> I have then converted that to $$$$$ for you
> 36,005.00 GBP .... = 68,044.30 USD

> So .... thats 68k bucks for a top of the range 1.8T and that comes with
> leccy seats
>
> Ronny

You got me beat..... and you have sort of helped me make my point.
[I assume leccy means lazy or otherwise non-powered?]

-- Frank

Peter Bell

In message <13b77305.0402250833.1ae26fab@posting.google.com >
basic@post.com (Frank) wrote:
> [I assume leccy means lazy or otherwise non-powered?]

leccy == electric

--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')

Avantium

Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message news:<6a7a5a864c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> In message <13b77305.0402250833.1ae26fab@posting.google.com >
> basic@post.com (Frank) wrote:
> > [I assume leccy means lazy or otherwise non-powered?]
>
> leccy == electric

Ahhhh, yes... the UK and the US, two cultures separated by a common language.

Mike Smith

Pete wrote:
>
> The 220hp V6 is what gives. If they up the 1.8T in hp and torque, there
> will be very little incentive for people to spend money on the 3.0 V6.

If that were the reasoning, then why does VW make available a 180hp 1.8T
and a 200hp VR6? Doesn't make sense.

--
Mike Smith