noisy power steering in colder weather at startup
09-12-2008, 08:50 AM
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noisy power steering in colder weather at startup
i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
(which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
(which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
09-12-2008, 02:13 PM
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Re: noisy power steering in colder weather at startup
mike_n wrote:
> i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
> down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
> for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
> the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
> assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
> around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
> (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
>
Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
and the engine running.
> i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
> down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
> for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
> the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
> assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
> around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
> (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
>
Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
and the engine running.
09-15-2008, 08:49 AM
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Re: noisy power steering in colder weather at startup
On Sep 12, 3:13 pm, TonyJ <"tonyjnospam at nospam visi.com"> wrote:
> mike_n wrote:
> > i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
> > down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
> > for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
> > the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
> > assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
> > around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
> > (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
>
> Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
> there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
> steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
> and the engine running.
i checked the fluid level and it is OK. The noise occurs only when
the outside temp is below 50 and in the first few minutes of driving.
In warmer weather or after the car has ran for a while, there is no
noise.
> mike_n wrote:
> > i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
> > down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
> > for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
> > the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
> > assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
> > around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
> > (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
>
> Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
> there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
> steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
> and the engine running.
i checked the fluid level and it is OK. The noise occurs only when
the outside temp is below 50 and in the first few minutes of driving.
In warmer weather or after the car has ran for a while, there is no
noise.
09-15-2008, 02:49 PM
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Re: noisy power steering in colder weather at startup
mike_n wrote:
> On Sep 12, 3:13 pm, TonyJ <"tonyjnospam at nospam visi.com"> wrote:
>> mike_n wrote:
>>> i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
>>> down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
>>> for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
>>> the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
>>> assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
>>> around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
>>> (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
>> Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
>> there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
>> steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
>> and the engine running.
>
> i checked the fluid level and it is OK. The noise occurs only when
> the outside temp is below 50 and in the first few minutes of driving.
> In warmer weather or after the car has ran for a while, there is no
> noise.
Is the steering heavier when the pump is making the noise?
Mike
> On Sep 12, 3:13 pm, TonyJ <"tonyjnospam at nospam visi.com"> wrote:
>> mike_n wrote:
>>> i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
>>> down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
>>> for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
>>> the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
>>> assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
>>> around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
>>> (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
>> Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
>> there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
>> steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
>> and the engine running.
>
> i checked the fluid level and it is OK. The noise occurs only when
> the outside temp is below 50 and in the first few minutes of driving.
> In warmer weather or after the car has ran for a while, there is no
> noise.
Is the steering heavier when the pump is making the noise?
Mike
09-15-2008, 06:43 PM
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Re: noisy power steering in colder weather at startup 1997 A4 2.8
Has the fluid been changed recently? Maybe it needs to be flushed out and
new synthetic mineral oil installed.
JMHO
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later,
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"Mike" <mikeloveschampagneandrugby@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> mike_n wrote:
>> On Sep 12, 3:13 pm, TonyJ <"tonyjnospam at nospam visi.com"> wrote:
>>> mike_n wrote:
>>>> i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
>>>> down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
>>>> for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
>>>> the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
>>>> assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
>>>> around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
>>>> (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
>>> Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
>>> there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
>>> steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
>>> and the engine running.
>>
>> i checked the fluid level and it is OK. The noise occurs only when
>> the outside temp is below 50 and in the first few minutes of driving.
>> In warmer weather or after the car has ran for a while, there is no
>> noise.
>
> Is the steering heavier when the pump is making the noise?
>
> Mike
new synthetic mineral oil installed.
JMHO
--
later,
(One out of many daves)
"Mike" <mikeloveschampagneandrugby@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> mike_n wrote:
>> On Sep 12, 3:13 pm, TonyJ <"tonyjnospam at nospam visi.com"> wrote:
>>> mike_n wrote:
>>>> i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
>>>> down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
>>>> for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
>>>> the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
>>>> assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
>>>> around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
>>>> (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
>>> Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
>>> there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
>>> steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
>>> and the engine running.
>>
>> i checked the fluid level and it is OK. The noise occurs only when
>> the outside temp is below 50 and in the first few minutes of driving.
>> In warmer weather or after the car has ran for a while, there is no
>> noise.
>
> Is the steering heavier when the pump is making the noise?
>
> Mike
09-16-2008, 08:33 AM
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Re: noisy power steering in colder weather at startup 1997 A4 2.8
On Sep 15, 7:43 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nos...@pleasehotmail.com>
wrote:
> Has the fluid been changed recently? Maybe it needs to be flushed out and
> new synthetic mineral oil installed.
> JMHO
> --
> later,
> (One out of many daves)
>
> "Mike" <mikeloveschampagneandru...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:game8i$1pk$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
>
> > mike_n wrote:
> >> On Sep 12, 3:13 pm, TonyJ <"tonyjnospam at nospam visi.com"> wrote:
> >>> mike_n wrote:
> >>>> i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
> >>>> down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
> >>>> for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
> >>>> the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
> >>>> assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
> >>>> around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
> >>>> (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
> >>> Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
> >>> there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
> >>> steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
> >>> and the engine running.
>
> >> i checked the fluid level and it is OK. The noise occurs only when
> >> the outside temp is below 50 and in the first few minutes of driving.
> >> In warmer weather or after the car has ran for a while, there is no
> >> noise.
>
> > Is the steering heavier when the pump is making the noise?
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
i have never changed the fluid at all - it is at least 8 years old.
the steering doesn't get heavier when I hear the noise but I can feel
the noise thru the steering wheel. whatever the cause is, it is
definitely providing some feedback thru the wheel.
wrote:
> Has the fluid been changed recently? Maybe it needs to be flushed out and
> new synthetic mineral oil installed.
> JMHO
> --
> later,
> (One out of many daves)
>
> "Mike" <mikeloveschampagneandru...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:game8i$1pk$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
>
> > mike_n wrote:
> >> On Sep 12, 3:13 pm, TonyJ <"tonyjnospam at nospam visi.com"> wrote:
> >>> mike_n wrote:
> >>>> i have an a4 2.8 quatro - 1997. as the weather gets colder at night,
> >>>> down to 50deg f or so, the power steering pump makes a growling sound
> >>>> for the first few minutes of driving when i turn. the further i turn,
> >>>> the more the noise. after a few minutes, the noise is gone. i am
> >>>> assuming that the fluid is getting less viscous as it is being pushed
> >>>> around. does anyone know if this is a case for replacing the fluid
> >>>> (which has never been done) or do i need a new pump?
> >>> Have you checked the PS fluid level? If it is low try to top it up and
> >>> there may be air in the system. Try to purge the air by turning the
> >>> steering wheel several times from one extreme to the other while stopped
> >>> and the engine running.
>
> >> i checked the fluid level and it is OK. The noise occurs only when
> >> the outside temp is below 50 and in the first few minutes of driving.
> >> In warmer weather or after the car has ran for a while, there is no
> >> noise.
>
> > Is the steering heavier when the pump is making the noise?
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
i have never changed the fluid at all - it is at least 8 years old.
the steering doesn't get heavier when I hear the noise but I can feel
the noise thru the steering wheel. whatever the cause is, it is
definitely providing some feedback thru the wheel.
11-05-2008, 06:25 PM
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Re: noisy power steering in colder weather at startup
ANSWER: Noise from power steering generally is isolated to three areas:
A) Resonance from power steering lines (not secured).
B) The power steering pump (loose pulley, damaged pulley, belt issues, pump mechanicals or noise related to cavitation; air in the system).
C) The power steering rack or box (the "growl" or groan associated with spool valve failure).
1) Inspect the pump pulley to insure it is not damaged (not bent, not lose, no burr's on the edges).
2) Inspect the belt for glazing, alignment, tension and frays.
3) If you have had a leak in the past, such as a leaking power steering rack (whether you are aware of a past leak or experienced by the previous owner) the pump could be damaged from running dry or it has been damaged by contaminants in the system.
A) Resonance from power steering lines (not secured).
B) The power steering pump (loose pulley, damaged pulley, belt issues, pump mechanicals or noise related to cavitation; air in the system).
C) The power steering rack or box (the "growl" or groan associated with spool valve failure).
1) Inspect the pump pulley to insure it is not damaged (not bent, not lose, no burr's on the edges).
2) Inspect the belt for glazing, alignment, tension and frays.
3) If you have had a leak in the past, such as a leaking power steering rack (whether you are aware of a past leak or experienced by the previous owner) the pump could be damaged from running dry or it has been damaged by contaminants in the system.
11-29-2008, 05:59 PM
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Re: noisy power steering in colder weather at startup
At the moment I am experiencing the same problem with noisy cold start-up. I recently had to change the oil and put in generic fluid. Since the oil change it has been noisy. The previous post "Synthetic Mineral Oil" is interesting. I have never heard of this. The dip stick indicates top up with mineral oil. Does anyone know the desired oil to use. I think this may be key.
11-30-2008, 07:11 AM
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Re: noisy power steering in colder weather at startup
http://www.blauparts.com/categories.asp?cat=476
Sometimes it depends on which year Audi you have, but I would say go with
the synthetic with any year that you have.
http://www.blauparts.com/audi/audi_f...rsteeringfluid
"All 1990 - on Audi models have come filled from the factory with the
synthetic CHF 11S Audi hydraulic fluid (G002000). Please Note: Never mix
generic hydraulic fluid or other fluid with the CHF 7.1 or CHF 11S Audi
hydraulic fluid (G002000). If you or someone else did, flush the Audi
hydraulic fluid as described below."
Now are you sure it is the P/S pump making the noise?
"Karl" <Karl.3joqe1@no-mx.audiforum.ca> wrote in message
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>
> At the moment I am experiencing the same problem with noisy cold
> start-up. I recently had to change the oil and put in generic fluid.
> Since the oil change it has been noisy. The previous post "Synthetic
> Mineral Oil" is interesting. I have never heard of this. The dip stick
> indicates top up with mineral oil. Does anyone know the desired oil to
> use. I think this may be key.
Sometimes it depends on which year Audi you have, but I would say go with
the synthetic with any year that you have.
http://www.blauparts.com/audi/audi_f...rsteeringfluid
"All 1990 - on Audi models have come filled from the factory with the
synthetic CHF 11S Audi hydraulic fluid (G002000). Please Note: Never mix
generic hydraulic fluid or other fluid with the CHF 7.1 or CHF 11S Audi
hydraulic fluid (G002000). If you or someone else did, flush the Audi
hydraulic fluid as described below."
Now are you sure it is the P/S pump making the noise?
"Karl" <Karl.3joqe1@no-mx.audiforum.ca> wrote in message
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>
> At the moment I am experiencing the same problem with noisy cold
> start-up. I recently had to change the oil and put in generic fluid.
> Since the oil change it has been noisy. The previous post "Synthetic
> Mineral Oil" is interesting. I have never heard of this. The dip stick
> indicates top up with mineral oil. Does anyone know the desired oil to
> use. I think this may be key.
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